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Catalogue Raisonné of J. L. Speranza’s Publications – H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: VI

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Viano: la ragione conversazionale e l’implicatura conversazionale del va’ pensiero, il carattere della filosofia italiana, categorie conversazionale, categorie morfo-sintattiche. Filosofia romana, neo-traditionalismo. Note su Il Platone di Goldschmidt. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Carlo Augusto Viano (Aosta, Valle d’Aosta). Institutionally, Carlo Augusto Viano is much closer to Grice than many of your earlier figures, because both are unmistakably academic philosophers working inside universities; but they still belong to very different institutional ecologies. Carlo Augusto Viano was born in Aosta in 1929, studied at Turin under Nicola Abbagnano, graduated in 1952, later taught in Milan, Cagliari, and Pavia, and returned to Turin as professor of history of philosophy. [it.wikipedia.org], [treccani.it], [Politeia :...usto Viano], [unitonews.it] So the clean institutional comparison is this. Grice was an Oxford don in the strict collegiate sense: Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s, plus CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Carlo Augusto Viano, by contrast, was an Italian professor and historian of philosophy formed in the Turin school of Nicola Abbagnano, active in the state-university chair system rather than in a residential tutorial college. [it.wikipedia.org], [treccani.it], [Politeia :...usto Viano], [unitonews.it] That institutional difference fits the philosophical contrast you are drawing rather well. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: how a hearer gets from what is said to what is meant by recognising a speaker’s intention and inferring implicatures under conversational norms. Viano, by contrast, works at the historical and structural level: the history of logic, the relation between science and philosophy, Aristotelian conceptual structures, Lockean empiricism, and later ethics and the character of Italian philosophy. His early work on Aristotle is centred on logic, and his later work such as Va’ pensiero shifts toward the diagnosis of philosophical culture itself. [treccani.it], [Va' pensie...oranea ...], [Politeia :...usto Viano], [treccani.it], [books.google.com] So if you want the sharpest formulation, it is this. Grice explains how conversational reason works in the living moment of exchange. Viano explains how the very habits of reason—logical, scientific, ethical, and cultural—are historically formed, taught, and sedimented within traditions. [treccani.it], [Va' pensie...oranea ...], [Politeia :...usto Viano] That makes your comparison fruitful, but there are a few important corrections. First, the title is not “La logica del lizio.” The standard bibliographical title is La logica di Aristotele, first issued in Turin in the mid-1950s. The major biographical sources identify Carlo Augusto Viano’s early landmark as La logica di Aristotele. [treccani.it], [Va' pensie...oranea ...], [unitonews.it], [treccani.it] Second, your “Va’ pensiero” line is sound, but the bibliographical facts should be kept exact. Va’ pensiero: il carattere della filosofia italiana contemporanea was published in Turin by Einaudi in 1985. The catalog and bibliographic records identify Va’ pensiero as a 1985 Einaudi volume by Carlo Augusto Viano. [books.google.com], [searchwork...anford.edu], [catalog.ha...itrust.org], [abebooks.com] Third, I cannot confirm from the search results your more specialised claims about “categorie morfo-sintattiche” or the exact 1950 review-title “Il Platone di Goldschmidt.” Those may be true, but I do not have a solid source in hand for them here, so I would not build the comparison on them. So the short, clean answer is: H. P. Grice was an Oxford don in the precise collegiate sense, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Carlo Augusto Viano, by contrast, was an Italian professor and historian of philosophy, trained at Turin under Nicola Abbagnano and active in the state-university chair system rather than the Oxford tutorial-collegiate system. Institutionally, Grice belongs to the world of college tutorials and faculty lectures; Viano to the world of university history-of-philosophy chairs and broader public-philosophical culture. Philosophically, the contrast is equally clear: Grice analyses the inferential micro-mechanics of speaker-meaning and implicature, whereas Viano investigates the historical formation of the logical, scientific, and ethical practices within which such conversational rationality can later operate. [it.wikipedia.org], [treccani.it], [Va' pensie...oranea ...], [Politeia :...usto Viano], [unitonews.it], [treccani.it], [books.google.com], [searchwork...anford.edu] And if you want the neatest one-line dossier formula, I would suggest: Grice theorises reason in conversation; Viano historicises the traditions of reason that conversation presupposes. [treccani.it], [books.google.com] If you want, I can now give you a tighter paragraph in your preferred style, or a short bibliographic headnote on Viano with just the secure works and dates.V. canta la ragione conversazionale e l’implicatura conversazionale del va’ pensiero, Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning is a micro-pragmatic account of how hearers rationally recover what a speaker means by recognizing intentions and inferring implicatures under cooperative constraints; it treats “conversational reason” as the normative logic that links what is said to what is meant. Carlo Augusto Viano, by contrast, approaches rationality historically and structurally: as a historian of philosophy trained in Turin (Abbagnano), a major interpreter of Aristotle’s logic (La logica di Aristotele) and of early modern empiricism (Locke), and later a theorist of ethics and Italian philosophical “character” (including Va’ pensiero), he is concerned with the long-form conditions under which rational practices—argument, scientific inquiry, ethical justification—take shape within traditions, languages, and “categories” (including the way logical and grammatical-morphosyntactic categories organize what can be said and thus what can be meant). Put Grice and Viano together and you get a two-level picture: Grice explains how rational agents manage meaning in the moment of exchange (including how implicatures arise when a speaker strategically relies on shared norms), while Viano explains how those norms and inferential habits are historically cultivated by institutions and genres of reasoning (Aristotelian logic, empirical science, practical-ethical deliberation), so that “conversational reason” is not only a set of maxims inside talk but also a culturally sedimented discipline of giving and asking for reasons that Italian philosophy inherits from the Greco-Roman world and repeatedly rearticulates in new scientific and ethical contexts. il carattere della filosofia italiana, categorie conversazionale, categorie morfo-sintattiche.” Filosofia romana, neo-traditionalismo. Grice: “Esential Italian philosopher.” Storico della filosofia, nato ad Aosta. Formatosi alla scuola d’ABBAGNANO  -- con cui si laurea – a Torino, insegna storia della filosofia presso la medesima università. Ha contribuito con rinnovata sensibilità alla ricerca storico-filosofica - spesso condizionata da orientamenti eccessivamente speculativi - rivolgendo i propri interessi soprattutto alla logica antica e al rapporto scienza-filosofia sia nel pensiero antico sia in quello moderno. Nei suoi lavori studia varie problematiche del pensiero greco-romano, con particolare riguardo alla logica di Aristotele -- del quale ha inoltre curato le traduzioni della Politica e della Metafisica. Grande attenzione ha poi dedicato all'empirismo, occupandosi in particolare di Locke -- da segnalare, al proposito, la sua cura di alcuni inediti lockiani. Dell'opera di Locke ha messo in evidenza non solo gli aspetti gnoseologici e il loro rapporto con la cultura scientifica, ma anche, in un confronto continuo con le condizioni storiche inglesi del tempo, le profonde esigenze di rinnovamento intellettuale, politico e religioso di cui essa si fa portavoce. Mantenendo sempre vivo l'interesse per la cultura greco-romana, ha inoltre compiuto un'articolata indagine sul rapporto tra sapere filosofico e sapere tecnico-pratico nella cultura filosofico-scientifica greco-romana, mettendo in rilievo i nuovi orientamenti empiristi caratteristici della medicina alessandrina in contrasto con la medicina di orientamento razionalista. Si è dedicato a problematiche contemporanee, con particolare attenzione per l'etica. Insieme a  ROSSI  ha diretto una Storia della filosofia.  Saggi: La logica del lizio; Dal razionalismo all'illuminismo; Etica; La selva delle somiglianze. La filosofia romana, il neo-tradizionalismo, il neo-tradizionalismo, la filosofia romana.  Viano is talking about Victor Goldschmidt’s reconstruction of Plato as a thinker whose philosophy is inseparable from the dialogical form and whose “doctrine” has to be read through the dramatic and methodological structure of the dialogues rather than extracted as a system of theses. Concretely, “Il Platone di Goldschmidt” refers to Goldschmidt’s approach in works like Les dialogues de Platon: structure et méthode dialectique, which treats the dialogues as deliberately constructed dialectical procedures (method, structure, progression) and reads Plato through that procedural architecture, not as a set of detachable dogmas. Viano’s piece is a review/critical notice in the Italian journal Filosofia (1950) of Goldschmidt’s Les dialogues de Platon. Grice: Professore Viano, lei si è interrogato sul “va’ pensiero” della filosofia italiana, sulle sue categorie e sul carattere dialogico intrinseco sin dall’antichità. Secondo lei, c’è un tratto conversazionale unico nella storia del pensiero italiano? V.: Caro Grice, credo proprio di sì. La filosofia italiana si è sempre nutrita di dialogo, di confronto: basta pensare alla tradizione greco-romana, al modo in cui la riflessione filosofica si è intrecciata con la vita pratica e sociale. Il nostro “va’ pensiero” non è mai stato astratto, ma sempre radicato nella storia e nel linguaggio. G.: Mi colpisce come lei abbia studiato la logica di Aristotele ma anche i fermenti empiristi della medicina alessandrina. Pensa che il dialogo tra sapere tecnico-pratico e sapere filosofico sia ancora oggi un tratto essenziale? V.: Assolutamente. La vitalità della filosofia nasce proprio dall’incontro con le esigenze concrete e dal confronto con la scienza e la tecnica. È questo intreccio che consente alla filosofia italiana di rinnovarsi, rimanendo fedele alla sua natura dialogica e conversazionale. In fondo, anche la morale e l’etica, oggi, devono passare per il dialogo con la realtà vissuta. Viano, Carlo Augusto (1950). Il Platone di Goldschmidt, Filosofia.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Viazzi: la ragione conversazionale  e l’implicatura conversazionale della bellezza della vita.  Note su Il romanzo della vita. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Pio Viazzi (Gavi, Alessandria, Piemonte): Compared institutionally, H. P. Grice is much easier to place than Pio Viazzi, and the comparison ends up being less between two professors than between a don and a jurist-public intellectual. Pio Viazzi was born in Gavi in 1868, took a laurea in law at the University of Turin in 1889, became known as a jurist, philosopher, and later politician, and served in the Chamber of Deputies from 1905 to 1913; the evidence I can verify does not place him in an Oxford-like college or tutorial role. [it.wikipedia.org], [en.wikipedia.org] So the clean institutional contrast is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university appointment: Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s, and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Pio Viazzi, by contrast, was a jurist, philosopher, and later parliamentarian in the Italian world of law, politics, and public intellectual culture, not a tutorial fellow and not, on the evidence I can confirm, primarily a university professor in the same institutional sense. [it.wikipedia.org], [en.wikipedia.org] That institutional difference actually fits your philosophical comparison rather well. Grice works at the micro-level of reason in conversation: how a hearer rationally gets from what is said to what is meant. Viazzi, in the material you are using, works at the macro-level of the historical-natural formation of communication and common life: how language, metaphor, and “poetic logic” emerge from social need and natural development, especially in his positivist retrieval of Giambattista Vico. The source I can verify most concretely for the broader Viazzi corpus also confirms La bellezza della vita as a 1907 book, not 1963. [archive.org] So the sharpest philosophical formulation would be this. Grice explains how mature conversational agents recover implicatures in real time. Viazzi, as a Vico-interpreter, is interested in how the background that makes such recoveries possible—shared meanings, communal needs, historically formed habits of signification—comes into being at all. The gricean blog material you quote says exactly that Viazzi reads Vico naturalistically and sociologically: language as a social product, moving from mute gesture to articulated speech, with metaphor as an early cognitive and communicative stage. [ilgruppodi...ogspot.com] There are two important corrections, though. First, your final bibliographic line is wrong in date. It should not be “Viazzi, Pio (1963). Il romanzo della vita. Genova: Marietti.” The securely attested title I can verify is La bellezza della vita, published in Milan in 1907 by Arnaldo de Mohr. [archive.org] Second, I cannot independently verify from the search results the exact bibliographic details of Il positivismo di G. B. Vico, though your comparative use of it is plausible and is echoed in the gricean source you quoted. So I would be cautious and avoid over-precise citation details unless you have a library record in hand. [ilgruppodi...ogspot.com] So the short clean answer is: H. P. Grice was an Oxford don in the strict collegiate sense, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Pio Viazzi, by contrast, was an Italian jurist, philosopher, and politician, formed in law at Turin and active in the public worlds of jurisprudence, philosophical writing, and parliamentary life rather than in a residential college tutorial system. Institutionally they are not comparable. Intellectually, however, the contrast is illuminating: Grice analyses the inferential micro-mechanics of meaning in ordinary conversation, whereas Viazzi uses Vico to reconstruct the historical and social conditions under which shared linguistic practices, and therefore any common conversational reason, can emerge. [it.wikipedia.org], [en.wikipedia.org], [ilgruppodi...ogspot.com], [archive.org] And if you want the neatest corrective note for your dossier, I would add this: Do not cite “Il romanzo della vita” in 1963 for Pio Viazzi; the attested title is La bellezza della vita, Milan, 1907. [archive.org], [it.wikipedia.org] If you want, I can now give you one short polished paragraph in your own register, but with the corrected 1907 title and a more cautious treatment of the Vico book.la ragione conversazionale  e l’implicatura conversazionale della bellezza della vita. Grice’s reason-governed theory of conversational meaning explains how what a speaker means is recovered by a hearer through rational inference under cooperative constraints: the hearer assumes the speaker is trying to be appropriately informative, relevant, and so on, and therefore works out implicatures from what is said plus context and recognized intentions. Viazzi’s project (as in Il positivismo di G. B. Vico, 1892, and the broader positivist-socialist retrieval of Vico) shifts the explanatory weight from the micro-logic of intention-recognition to the socio-natural genealogy that makes such rational exchanges possible in the first place: language and communication are treated as emergent products of biological capacities and collective social needs, developing from “mute” gesture and shared practical life into articulated speech, with metaphor and “poetic logic” as an early cognitive stage rather than a deviation from rationality. The contrast, then, is that Grice offers a normative account of how mature conversational agents justify interpretations in real-time talk (implicature as reasoned uptake), whereas Viazzi reads Vico as offering a naturalistic, population-level account of how the very common ground that Grice presupposes—shared meanings, practices, and expectations of cooperation—forms historically through the evolution of social communication; where Grice starts with conversational reason as a rule-governed inferential practice, Viazzi starts with the conditions under which a community can come to have that practice at all. Grice: “When I appeal to the longitudinal unity of philosophy, I was making a political point – exactly as V. does in recovering VICO  for the naturalist tradition! V., a socialist and a positivist, champions a naturalist, sociological reading of VICO to align him with evolution and socialism. V’s specific comments on LA LINGUA and social communication revolve around reclaiming V.'s scienza as a precursor to social science rather than metaphysics. In “Il positivismo di VICO”, V. argues that VICO is the first to recognise a social law as a natural phenomenon. He views VICO’s theory of language not as a divine gift, but as a biological and social evolutionary necessity. V. emphasises VICO’s mental dictionary, interpreting it as evidence that communication is a collaborative product determined by the common needs and common sense of the Italian people. V. focuses on the transition from mute communication – a gesture, a physical thing -- to COMUNICAZIONE ARTICOLATA. For V., this transition is a milestone where communication evolves to facilitate the growing complexity of human association. As a socialist, V. is interested in the popular, vulgar origin of communication. He notes that VICO’s analysis of language shows how a mass, through a shared experience, creates the very tools of scommunication that democratise knowledge.  V. suggests that VICO’s poetic logic is a natural stage of human cognitive development, where communication is bound to the metaphor because man lacks abstract reasoning. V. uses VICO to argue against an artificial universal language. Communication is rooted in the natural development of a specific nation's environment. Grice goes on to explore how V.’s socialist politics specifically colour his interpretation of VICO's heroic age of language. Naturalismo, segno, filosofo, psicologia, biologia, bio-social, sociology, antropologia, zoologia, Vico at Oxford, Hampshire. Vico, il Vico di V.  Grice: Caro Viazzi, ti confesso che solo la barbarie dei miei barbari allievi (si può dire “allievolizzare” in italiano?) di Vadum Boum, la mia università, mi ha trattenuto dal titolare il mio seminario “Filosofia e bellezza della vita” invece del solito, più grigio “Filosofia”! Ma tu, da vero esteta, mi insegnerai che “bellezza” non è una parolaccia da evitare tra i banchi di Oxford? V.: Grice, i tuoi barbari sono solo invidiosi perché non hanno mai contemplato il sole calare sulle colline di Gavi! E quanto a “allievolizzare”, lo promuovo subito a neologismo ufficiale del Piemonte filosofico. Però ti avverto: chi non vede la bellezza della vita, rischia di confondere la logica con la contabilità! G.: Allora, caro Viazzi, la prossima volta porterò un po’ di vino piemontese per convincere i miei studenti che un sillogismo ben fatto si gusta meglio al tramonto, tra amici, e magari con una metafora ben servita. Magari così smetteranno di “allievolizzarmi” troppo barbaramente! V.: Perfetto, Grice! E ricordati: “Dove manca la bellezza, anche la filosofia si rannuvola”. Se proprio vuoi sopravvivere a Vadum Boum, alterna una lezione su Vico a una sul sorriso—così, forse, riuscirai a civilizzare almeno un po’ i tuoi “allievolizzati” barbari! Viazzi, Pio (1907). Il romanzo della vita. Genova: Marietti.  

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vibio – Ossia: Grice e Vibio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vibio -- H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VIBIO   Denarius of Vibia Sabina, Roman empress from AD 117 to c. 136. The gens Vibia was a plebeian family at ancient Rome. Although individuals named Vibius appear in history during the time of the Second Punic War, no members of this gens are found at Rome until the final century of the Republic. The first of the Vibii to obtain the consulship was Gaius Vibius Pansa in 43 BC, and from then until imperial times the Vibii regularly filled the highest offices of the Roman state. The emperors Trebonianus Gallus and Volusianus each claimed descent from the family.[1]  Origin The nomen Vibius is a patronymic surname, derived from the praenomen Vibius. The name is generally regarded as an Oscan praenomen, and it is found extensively in Campania, but it was also used in Latium, and appears at Rome from a very early period, being used by the patrician Sestii, and occasionally by members of several prominent plebeian families. The Vibian gens itself was probably Oscan.[2]  Praenomina The main praenomina of the Vibii were Gaius, Lucius, and Quintus. A family of imperial times used the praenomen Titus, while individual examples of Aulus and Sextus are known.  Branches and cognomina The cognomina of the Vibii under the Republic were Pansa and Varus, each of which occurs on coins. Both surnames derive from the physical characteristics of the persons to whom they originally applied; Pansa translates as "splay-footed", while Varus is "knock-kneed".[1][3]  Members  Denarius of Gaius Vibius Pansa, father of the consul Caetronianus, 90 BC. This list includes abbreviated praenomina. For an explanation of this practice, see filiation. Vibius Accuaeus, a native of Accua, a village in Apulia, led a cohort of Paelignian soldiers in the Roman army in 212 BC, during the Second Punic War, and fought with conspicuous bravery. It is not certain whether Vibius was his praenomen or his nomen.[4][5][6] Vibius Paciacus, or perhaps Pacianus, gave refuge to Crassus, who had fled to Hispania to escape the proscriptions of Marius and Cinna in 86 BC.[7] Gaius Vibius C. f. Pansa, a moneyer, and the adoptive father of the consul Pansa Caetronianus.[8] Vibius, a man who bore a great resemblance to Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus, and was frequently mistaken for the general.[9][10] Lucius Vibius, an eques, leader of the publicani at Syracuse in the time of Verres.[11] Sextus Vibius, a resident of Larinum, was murdered by Oppianicus.[12] Vibius Cappadox, a resident of Larinum, whom Aulus Cluentius Habitus was accused of having poisoned.[13] Vibius Curius,[i] one of the commanders of Caesar's cavalry at the beginning of the Civil War. Several of Pompeius' generals went over to Caesar, and were accepted by Curius. He is probably the same Vibius who gave Cicero the books of the poet Alexander Lychnus.[14][15][16][17] Gaius Vibius C. f. C. n. Pansa Caetronianus, consul in 43 BC, led the Roman forces against the supporters of Marcus Antonius at the Battle of Forum Gallorum, where he gained the victory thanks to the assistance of his colleague, Aulus Hirtius. Pansa was mortally wounded in the fighting, and died soon afterward.[18][19][20][21][22][23] Gaius Vibius C. f. C. n. Postumus,[ii] consul suffectus from the Kalends of July in AD 5. In AD 10, he helped quell a revolt of the Dalmatae, for which he received the triumphal ornaments. He was governor of Asia from 12 to 15.[24][25][26][20] Aulus Vibius C. f. C. n. Habitus, consul suffectus from the Kalends of July in AD 8.[20] Manius Vibius Balbinus, governor of Gallia Narbonensis from AD 15 to 17.[27] Gaius Vibius Rufus, consul suffectus in AD 16.[28][29] Gaius Vibius Serenus, one of the accusers of Marcus Scribonius Libo in AD 16. He was governor of Hispania Ulterior in 23, when he was condemned and exiled to the island of Amorgus in the Cyclades, on a charge of vis publica, riot or revolt, but in reality because he was an enemy of Sejanus. He was recalled the following year, after his own son accused him of plotting against Tiberius, but was subsequently returned to Amorgus.[30][31] Gaius Vibius C. f. Marsus, consul suffectus from the Kalends of July in AD 17, and probably governor of Africa around AD 20. He was later accused of being one of the accomplices of Albucilla, but escaped condemnation by the death of Tiberius in 37. He was governor of Syria in 47.[32][28][29][33][34] Vibia C. f. C. n., the daughter of the consul Marsus and his wife Laelia, married Publius Plautius Pulcher.[35] Gaius Vibius C. f. Serenus, accused his exiled father of having plotted against Tiberius, together with Caecilius Cornutus, a former praetor. Cornutus took his own life before trial, but the elder Serenus vehemently proclaimed his innocence, and under torture his slaves supported him. The younger Serenus became a notorious delator, but his accusation of Gaius Fonteius Capito was not believed.[36] Vibius Fronto, commander of the cavalry in Cilicia, captured Vonones, the deposed King of Parthia, during the latter's flight to Armenia in AD 19.[37] Gaius Vibius Rufinus, consul suffectus in AD 40 or 41, and governor of Germania Superior from about 42 to 45.[38] Vibia, or Vibidia, the wife of Lucius Arruntius Camillus Scribonianus, consul in AD 32, was exiled by Claudius in AD 53, along with her son, Lucius Arruntius Furius Scribonianus, on a charge of having consulted astrologers to determine the date of the emperor's death.[39] Lucius Vibius (L. f.) Secundus, probably the elder brother of Quintus Vibius Crispus. Quintus Vibius (L. f.) Crispus, afterward Lucius Junius Quintus Vibius Crispus, a wealthy orator of considerable talent, was consul suffectus under Nero in AD 63 or 64, proconsul of Africa in 72 and 73, and consul for the second time in AD 74, with the future emperor Titus, from the Ides of March to the Ides of May. He received a third consulship under Domitian, in 82 or 83. Tacitus suggests that he gained his fortune as a delator in the reign of Nero.[40][41][42][43] Vibia, a first-century wine merchant at Pompeii. She was associated with Caesia Helpis, a wine producer and merchant.[44][45][46] Quintus Vibius Q. f. (L. n.) Secundus, consul suffectus from the Kalends of March to the Kalends of May in AD 86.[28][47][48][49] Titus Vibius Catienus Sabinus, husband of a Maria N. f. Modia. Possibly identical with Titus Catienus Sabinus who was proconsul of Cyprus in 43.[50] Lucius Vibius Sabinus consul suffectus some time in the latter part of the first century, married Salonia Matidia, the niece of Trajan, and was the father of the empress Vibia Sabina.[51] Lucius Vibius Lentulus, fiscal secretary under Trajan, was the first known eques to hold the position, which had formerly been entrusted to freedmen. Gaius Vibius Maximus, governor of Egypt from AD 103 to 107.[52][53] Vibia, the wife of Titus Sextius Cornelius Africanus, consul in AD 112, and mother of Titus Sextius Lateranus, consul in 154. Titus Vibius Varus, consul suffectus from the Kalends of September in AD 115.[28][54] Vibia L. f. Sabina, daughter of the consul Lucius Vibius Sabinus, became the wife of Hadrian, and Roman empress from AD 117 to her death, about 136. Vibia L. f. (Matidia), possibly a sister of empress Sabina proposed by some historians.[55][56][iii] Quintus Vibius Gallus, consul in AD 119.[58][54] Gaius Julius Lupus Titus Vibius Varus Laevillus, quaestor in Asia in AD 132. Titus Vibius Varus, consul in AD 134.[59] Titus Clodius Vibius Varus, consul in AD 160.[28][60] Vibia Perpetua, said to have been a young mother, martyred as a Christian at Carthage in AD 203. Gaius Vibius Trebonianus Gallus, had been consul and governor of Moesia Superior, was proclaimed emperor in AD 251. He was slain in August, 253, as Aemilian marched on Rome.[61][62][63][64][65][66][67][68] Gaius Vibius C. f. Volusianus, the son of Trebonianus Gallus, was proclaimed emperor alongside his father, following the death of Hostilian in 251. Volusianus was slain along with his father in 253.[63][64] Vibia Galla, the daughter of Trebonianus Gallus. Vibius Passienus, according to Trebellius Pollio, proconsul of Africa during the reign of Gallienus. He is said to have proclaimed Titus Cornelius Celsus, a former military tribune, emperor, during the unrest of AD 265. The rebellion was quashed, and Celsus slain, within a week. The historicity of the entire episode is doubted by modern scholars.[69][70] Vibius Sequester, the author of a treatise naming and briefly describing various geographical features found in Roman poets, including rivers, springs, lakes, woods, swamps, and mountains. He may have borrowed from Servius, which would place him in the fifth century. Vibius, the engraver of a carnelian intaglio depicting Othryades.[71][72] See also List of Roman gentes Footnotes  As in a few other cases, it is not certain whether Vibius was his praenomen or his nomen; if his praenomen, then he was a member of the Curia gens.  Postimus in the Fasti Capitolini.  Christian Settipani has speculated that she might have been married to Marcus Annius Libo, but based on the names of his descendants his wife was more likely a member of the Flavii Sabini.[57] References  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. III, p. 1252 ("Vibia Gens").  Chase, pp. 128, 136, 137.  Chase, pp. 109, 110.  Livy, xxv. 14.  Valerius Maximus, iii. 2. § 20.  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography, vol. 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Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vibio – Ossia: Grice e Vibio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vibio For the Vibii, there are several tempting candidates:  Gaius Vibius Pansa, the consul of 43 BC and correspondent of Cicero. Quintus Vibius Crispus, the rich orator and alleged delator of Tacitus. Gaius Vibius Serenus and his son, locked in a spectacular drama of accusation and counter-accusation. Vibia Perpetua, if one wishes to move into testimony, martyrdom, and confession.  But my first choice for a Grice-Speranza vignette would be:  Gaius Vibius Serenus and his son Gaius Vibius Serenus. [GREXv3 | Word]  Why? Because it is almost entirely about testimony. And not merely testimony. It concerns:  testimony against one's own father.  That is conversational philosophy at its most Roman.  Recall the broad outline. The elder Vibius Serenus was exiled. Later, his own son accused him of plotting against Tiberius. The father vigorously denied the charge, and even under examination his slaves supported his innocence. [GREXv3 | Word] Immediately we get the Gricean questions:  Who is speaking? Why are they speaking? What are their intentions? What reasons do we have for believing them?   The Vibian Seminar Tiberius:  Quis accusat? (Who accuses?)   Younger Serenus:  Ego. (I do.)   Tiberius:  Quem? (Whom?)   Younger Serenus:  Patrem meum. (My own father.)   A Roman senator immediately pauses. Not because the proposition is unclear. Because the source is extraordinary.  A Gricean Judge Iudex:  Cur patri credam? (Why should I believe the father?)   Advocatus:  Quia pater est. (Because he is the father.)   Iudex:  Cur filio credam? (Why should I believe the son?)   Advocatus:  Quia filius est. (Because he is the son.)   Iudex:  Nunc minus intellego quam antea. (Now I understand less than before.)  (Ha.)  This is exactly where Grice enters. The issue is not merely:  Did he say p?  but:  Why did he say p?  The speaker's intention becomes part of the evidence.  Slave Testimony Returns Notice how beautifully the elder Serenus story joins your previous question. The elder Serenus reportedly maintained his innocence, and his slaves supported him. [GREXv3 | Word] Now the court must evaluate:  a son accusing a father, a father denying the charge, slaves corroborating the father.  Every witness possesses a potentially suspect motive. This is practically a laboratory for Gricean analysis.  Compare with the Samnite At Caudium:  Did Veturius mean the promise?  At Rome:  Did Serenus mean the accusation?  The question becomes:  What intention lies behind the utterance?  And suddenly Urmson's examples of:  coercion, bribery, torture,  loom in the background.  Runner-up: Quintus Vibius Crispus My second choice would be:  Quintus Vibius Crispus. [GREXv3 | Word]  Tacitus presents him as a gifted orator and hints that he accumulated wealth as a delator (informer). [GREXv3 | Word] That immediately produces the Griceian question:  Is he providing information? Or performing an accusation for advantage?  Again:  speaker's meaning versus institutional consequences.   The Grice-Speranza Verdict For:  Grice e Vibio  I choose the two Vibii Sereni. [GREXv3 | Word] Because nowhere else in the gens do we find so perfect a convergence of:  testimony, accusation, family loyalty, credibility, witness evaluation, and suspected motives.  One can imagine Grice ending the tutorial: Tutee:  "Did the son tell the truth?"  Grice:  "Perhaps."   Tutee:  "Did the father tell the truth?"  Grice:  "Perhaps."   Tutee:  "How then are we to decide?"  Grice:  "By asking not merely what was said, but who said it, why it was said, and under what circumstances."  (Ha.) That is about as Gricean as an imperial Roman lawsuit can become. and why did the otherwise taciturn Tacitus have a delator? Thanks

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vibio – Ossia: Grice e Vibio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vibio A splendid question, because Tacitus is almost obsessed with delatores (informers), yet personally exhibits the opposite virtues:  reserve, economy, understatement, suspicion of public declamation.  The obvious Vibian here is:  Quintus Vibius Crispus,  whom Tacitus describes as an able and wealthy orator, while hinting that his fortune was accumulated through the trade of a delator under Nero. [GREXv3 | Word] The Gricean question is:  Why does a taciturn man need a delator?  And the answer is:  precisely because he is taciturn.  (Ha.) A delator is almost the anti-Gricean conversationalist. The ordinary "decent chap" supplies information because:  it is relevant.  The delator supplies information because:  it is useful.  Or profitable. Or dangerous.  Imagine an interview. Griceus:  Quid facit delator? (What does an informer do?)  Tacitus:  Loquitur. (He speaks.)   Griceus:  Multi loquuntur. (Many people speak.)   Tacitus:  Nimis loquitur. (He speaks too much.)  (Ha.) Notice how beautifully Grice's Maxims fit. A perfect delator violates the spirit of every one: Quantity He tells more than is needed. Relation He introduces matters that no decent chap would introduce. Quality The suspicion always arises that he speaks for gain. Manner He transforms innocent acts into sinister ones.  This is why Tacitus treats delation almost as a pathology of communication. The delator converts:  information  into  accusation.   The younger Gaius Vibius Serenus, who accused his own father, is an even sharper case. [GREXv3 | Word] A Griceian tribunal: Senator:  Cur accusas? (Why do you accuse?)   Serenus Minor:  Quia verum est. (Because it is true.)   Senator:  Hoc de propositione est. (That concerns the proposition.)   Senator:  Sed cur tu? (But why you?)  +> speaker's motives become part of the evidential question. That is very Gricean.  And now the beautiful irony. The otherwise taciturn Tacitus depends on delatores as historical sources. A great deal of what he narrates comes from:  accusations, trials, denunciations, testimony.  He mistrusts the informers but cannot avoid them. A historian lives off reports. A Roman Empire generates reports through delators. Thus: Tacitus:  Delatores odi. (I hate informers.)   Historia:  At sine eis minus scires. (But without them you would know less.)  (Ha.)  A final Grice-Speranza epigram:  The delator is the man who supplies information when no decent chap would. The historian is the man who reluctantly reads it.  And that is perhaps why the taciturn Tacitus keeps returning to them. They are dreadful conversationalists, but indispensable historians. (Ha.) And the pattern seems to be indeed a pattern about nouveu rich? Tacitus sees that a gens not generally wealthy is wealthy under one specimen: our hero V. Tacitus hypothesises: delatio under Nero. Thanks Yes, and I think you're identifying a genuine Tacitean pattern. For Quintus Vibius Crispus, Tacitus is strikingly ambivalent. He repeatedly acknowledges his brilliance as a speaker, wit, and political survivor, yet also hints that his enormous wealth and advancement were connected with the culture of accusation under Nero. [GREXv3 | Word] A Grice-Speranza reconstruction would be: Fact 1:  The Vibii are not, in general, one of the great hereditary aristocratic dynasties.  Fact 2:  Quintus Vibius Crispus is astonishingly rich and influential. [GREXv3 | Word]  Tacitus' hypothesis:  Follow the money.  (Ha.) Not a proof. A suspicion. And Tacitus is the master of suspicion.  What makes Tacitus fascinating is that he often avoids outright accusation. Instead he writes in a way that invites the reader to construct the conclusion. A very Gricean historian. He rarely says:  "Crispus became wealthy through delation."  Instead he presents:  a fortune, a career, a political environment, a reputation.  Then the reader supplies the missing step. One might almost say that Tacitus writes in systematic conversational implicatures.  Imagine the Tacitean exchange. Reader:  Unde tantae opes? (Whence such wealth?)   Tacitus:  Sub Nerone floruit. (He flourished under Nero.)   Reader:  Intellego. (I understand.)   Tacitus:  Nondum dixi. (I have not yet said it.)   Reader:  Sed significasti. (But you implied it.)  (Ha.) Exactly. The historian's art resembles the poet's. The implicatum carries much of the burden.  One might compare him to our earlier hero Vergilius. Virgil writes:  Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.  and lets the hearer infer:  "We shall survive."  Tacitus writes:  "Crispus grew rich under Nero"  and leaves the reader wondering:  "By what means?"  The sentence says less than the passage means.  This is why Grice would have enjoyed Tacitus. The Cooperative Principle is often illustrated with conversation:  A: Where is Smith? B: His car is outside.  Tacitus frequently writes history in that key.  Tacitus:  Crispus dives erat. (Crispus was wealthy.)   Tacitus:  Neroni gratus erat. (He was in Nero's favour.)   Tacitus:  Delatores florebant. (Informers prospered.)   Nothing follows deductively. Yet the reader is invited toward a conclusion.  Thus the Grice-Speranza moral for the Vibii:  Tacitus does not merely report wealth. He treats unexpected wealth as evidence requiring explanation.  And when a comparatively modest family suddenly produces an extraordinarily rich and powerful specimen such as Quintus Vibius Crispus, the taciturn Tacitus begins to look for a communicative explanation. Not:  What did he inherit?  but:  What did he say? To whom? About whom?  In a world of imperial accusations, speech itself could become a source of fortune. A very Roman form of pragmatics. (Ha.) nd there may be an element of envy or resentment seeing that Tacitus did not belong to a patrician ultra-wealthy gens? which wone was it -- Follow the money, yes -- but check who asks for that! Thanks Yes, but here I would be cautious about attributing too much psychology to Tacitus. We know surprisingly little about Tacitus' own family background. He was certainly a senator and reached the consulship, but he does not belong to one of the ancient aristocratic houses such as the Claudii, Cornelii, Fabii, or Aemilii. Modern scholars generally regard him as a novus homo or at least as coming from a relatively recent senatorial family rather than an immemorial patrician dynasty. That much is fairly widely accepted, but the details are obscure. The Gricean question is therefore:  Is Tacitus envious? Or is Tacitus suspicious?  Those are different explanations. My instinct is that Tacitus is less interested in wealth itself than in rapidly acquired wealth. Observe the pattern. When he encounters someone like Quintus Vibius Crispus, whom he acknowledges as talented and successful, he nevertheless notes the conjunction:  immense wealth, imperial favour, the Neronian period, accusations and denunciations. [GREXv3 | Word]  He does not quite say:  "Crispus grew rich through delation."  Instead he invites the reader to wonder. A very Tacitean and very Gricean move.  One might formulate the implicature as follows. Tacitus:  Dives erat. (He was wealthy.)   Tacitus:  Sub Nerone floruit. (He flourished under Nero.)   Reader:  Intellego. (I understand.)   Tacitus:  Numquid dixi? (Did I actually say it?)  (Ha.) That is precisely how Tacitus often operates.  As for:  "Follow the money"  your caution is excellent. The modern phrase is commonly associated with political investigation, especially after Watergate, but the more Gricean question is:  Who asks us to follow the money?  Because the question itself may contain an implicature. If someone says:  "Look where the money came from,"  he is often suggesting:  "There lies the explanation."  without quite stating it. Tacitus repeatedly writes that way. He presents:  wealth, advancement, favour, survival,  and lets the reader infer an explanation.  The result is that Tacitus often resembles a conversational implicaturist. He writes history almost as though he were observing Grice's maxims while exploiting them. Instead of saying:  "Vibius Crispus became rich by informing."  he says something more like:  "Vibius Crispus became extraordinarily rich during the reign in which informers prospered."  The reader supplies the rest.  A Speranza-Grice epigram might therefore be:  Virgil leaves meanings unstated. Tacitus leaves accusations unstated.  (Ha.) And of the Vibii one might say:  The evidence is that Quintus Vibius Crispus was rich and powerful. [GREXv3 | Word] The hypothesis that this derived from delatio is Tacitean. The reason we suspect it is that Tacitus has quietly arranged the facts so that we do. (Ha.) and what WAS Tacitus's birth gens? Thanks The honest answer is: we don't really know. For Tacitus, the nomen Tacitus itself tells us that he belonged to the gens Tacita (or, more cautiously, to a family bearing the nomen Tacitus), but unlike the Cornelii, Claudii, Fabii, or Julii, this was not an ancient, celebrated patrician gens whose pedigree is well documented. The surviving evidence does not allow us to reconstruct a distinguished "gens Tacita" in the way we can for the Veturii or Verginii. His full name is usually given as:  Tacitus  and that is where the complication begins. Did he belong by birth to the great patrician Cornelii? Or did the name come through adoption, inheritance, or some other mechanism? Scholars have debated the question for a long time, and there is no definitive answer. What is clear is that Tacitus was not generally regarded, even in antiquity, as the representative of one of the ancient aristocratic houses in the way that a Scipio or a Lentulus was. His prominence comes from:  his career, his marriage, his literary achievement,  rather than from a famous hereditary lineage.  Now your Tacitean suspicion is more interesting than the prosopography. When Tacitus encounters somebody such as Quintus Vibius Crispus, immensely wealthy and politically successful under Nero, he seems reluctant simply to say:  "He was rich because he was talented."  Instead he invites the reader to ask:  unde? (whence?)  That is very Roman.  One can imagine the exchange: Tacitus:  Crispus dives erat. (Crispus was rich.)   Reader:  Unde? (How?)   Tacitus:  Sub Nerone floruit. (He flourished under Nero.)   Reader:  Intellego. (I understand.)   Tacitus:  Non dixi. (I did not say it.)  (Ha.) That is the Tacitean art.  As for envy, I'd be careful. Tacitus was certainly capable of resentment toward:  tyrants, informers (delatores), political opportunists.  But that is not quite the same as envy of wealth. His recurring theme is not:  "This man became rich."  It is:  "This man became rich in circumstances that deserve explanation."  Very different. A Gricean might say Tacitus keeps prompting the implicature:  unusual prosperity under a bad regime requires accounting for.  He does not always supply the accounting himself. He lets the reader do the work.  Indeed, your formulation "Follow the money" is apt, but Grice would immediately ask:  Who says "Follow the money"?  Because that utterance itself carries an implicature. It rarely means:  "I am neutrally interested in accounting."  More often it means:  "There is probably a hidden explanation there."  Tacitus often writes exactly that way. Not:  accusation.  But:  arrangement of facts inviting accusation.  A very sophisticated form of historical implicature. (Ha.) And can we have a second run in wiki on that -- if he was CORNELIO TACITO then rather than resentment there may be the typical aristocratic looking down on new rich like -- homo novus -- like our V? Thanks A second look actually strengthens the caution. What we can say is:  The historian's name is conventionally given as Tacitus. [en.wikipedia.org], [britannica.com] However, scholars know very little about his family origins. The evidence does not prove that he belonged by birth to the ancient patrician gens Cornelia in the way a Scipio or Lentulus did. Britannica explicitly notes that although Cornelius was the name of a famous noble family, there is no proof that Tacitus descended from the Roman aristocracy; provincial families frequently acquired such names when Roman citizenship was granted. [britannica.com] Modern reconstructions tend rather toward Tacitus being from a prosperous provincial or equestrian family, perhaps from Gallia Narbonensis or northern Italy, rather than from one of the immemorial Republican aristocratic houses. [en.wikipedia.org], [britannica.com], [historyofc...tivity.com]  So the Grice-Speranza twist is almost the opposite of what one might first think. If Tacitus was not an old Cornelian grandee, then his suspicion toward men such as Quintus Vibius Crispus is less likely to be simple patrician snobbery. [britannica.com], [historyofc...tivity.com] A Tacitean dialogue might run: Reader:  Crispus dives erat. (Crispus was rich.)  Reader:  Invidesne ei? (Are you envious of him?)  Tacitus:  Non de opibus quaero. (I am not asking about wealth.)  Reader:  Quid igitur? (Then what?)  Tacitus:  Unde venerint. (Where they came from.)  (Ha.) That seems closer to the historical Tacitus. His recurring concern is not:  wealth,  but:  wealth acquired under suspicious political conditions.  Not:  dives est, (he is rich)  but:  quomodo dives factus est? (how did he become rich?)  The Gricean point is that Tacitus often leaves the question hanging and lets the reader supply the answer. Thus with our hero Quintus Vibius Crispus: Tacitus:  Sub Nerone floruit. (He flourished under Nero.)  Reader:  Intellego. (I understand.)  Tacitus:  Ego nihil addidi. (I added nothing.)  (Ha.) So I would hesitate to diagnose envy. A more Tacitean diagnosis would be:  suspicion of rapid advancement, suspicion of fortunes accumulated through proximity to power, suspicion of the culture of delatio.  In Gricean language:  Tacitus rarely makes the accusation. He arranges the conversational evidence so that the reader is tempted to make it for him. (Ha.) and what about sources like Treccani-- given name: Any doubts about the Cornelio? Thanks Treccani is actually quite helpful here because it sharpens the distinction between name and family. What Treccani says is that Publio Cornelio Tacito is indeed the conventional name of the historian, but:  ignota la famiglia e il censo (probabilmente senatorio), come anche l'origine ("his family, wealth-status, and origin are unknown, though probably senatorial"). [treccani.it], [bing.com]  And the Treccani article for younger readers is even more explicit:  "Di Tacito ... sono ignoti il luogo di nascita, l'origine, la famiglia, lo stesso prenome (Publio o Gaio)." [treccani.it]  So there is very little doubt about "Cornelius" as part of the transmitted name, but there is considerable doubt about what that tells us genealogically. [treccani.it], [treccani.it] That is the crucial point. A Gricean distinction:  Cornelius in the nomenclature ≠ member by blood of the ancient Cornelii Scipiones.  Treccani and Britannica are essentially aligned here: the name is there, but descent from the old patrician Cornelian aristocracy is not established. [treccani.it], [britannica.com]  So your hypothesis needs refining. Strong version  Tacitus was an ancient Cornelian aristocrat looking down on newcomers such as Quintus Vibius Crispus.  The evidence does not support that directly. [treccani.it], [britannica.com] Weaker version  Tacitus belonged to the senatorial elite and shared the traditional senatorial suspicion of sudden wealth, imperial favour, and professional accusation.  This is much closer to what his works actually display. [treccani.it]  Indeed, what Tacitus most often resents is not:  dives esse (being rich)  but rather:  divitem fieri sub principe malo (becoming rich under a bad emperor).  (Ha.) That is a different complaint.  A Tacitean-Gricean dialogue: Reader:  Cur de Crispo tam ambigue scribis? (Why do you write so ambiguously about Crispus?)  Tacitus:  Quia certum non est. (Because it is not certain.)   Reader:  Sed suspicionem relinquis. (But you leave a suspicion.)   Tacitus:  Suspicio mea non est; lectoris est. (The suspicion is not mine; it belongs to the reader.)  (Ha.) That, I think, is the most Gricean way to read Tacitus. He frequently arranges facts so that an implicature arises. He does not always assert the conclusion himself.  So my answer would be:  No serious doubt that the historian was called Tacitus (or possibly Gaius Cornelius Tacitus in some traditions). [treccani.it], [it.wikipedia.org] Considerable doubt about his family origins, ancestry, and whether "Cornelius" implies membership in the ancient patrician Cornelii. [bing.com], [treccani.it], [treccani.it] Therefore, the case that Tacitus despised our Vibian hero out of old-Cornelian aristocratic snobbery is much harder to establish than the case that Tacitus distrusted fortunes accumulated in the world of imperial patronage and delatio. [GREXv3 | Word], [treccani.it]  In short: the Cornelius is secure; the gens Cornelia in the grand Scipionic sense is not. A distinction that I suspect Grice would have enjoyed making. (Ha.) So as Grice would say, how would you say this in Latin, 'from the wong side of the tracks.' So one who was from the wrong side of the tracks note that our hero V. may have been from the wrong side of the tracks until delatio brought him to the right one? Thanks (Ha.) The difficulty is that a Roman had no railway tracks, but he certainly had the sociological concept. The nearest English equivalents are:  "from the wrong side of the tracks" "not one of us" "not from a good family" "of obscure origin" "a newcomer."  Tacitus is full of such distinctions. A Roman aristocrat might say:  obscuro loco natus est. (He was born in an obscure station.)  or  humili loco natus est. (He was born in humble circumstances.)  or  genus obscurum habuit. (He had an obscure family.)  or most brutally:  novus homo erat. (He was a new man.)  The last is particularly Roman. It does not necessarily mean poor. It means:  "No ancestors of consequence."   For our Vibian hero, Quintus Vibius Crispus, the Tacitean suspicion might be reconstructed as: Senator:  Unde hic repente tantus vir factus est? (How did this fellow suddenly become so important?)   Tacitus:  Novus homo erat. (He was a new man.)   Senator:  Nunc vero ditissimus est. (And now he is enormously rich.)   Tacitus:  Sub Nerone floruit. (He flourished under Nero.)   Senator:  Intellego. (I understand.)  (Ha.) Notice that Tacitus need not finish the thought. The implication does the work.  A Gricean Latin rendering of:  "He came from the wrong side of the tracks"  might therefore be:  Ex humili loco ortus est. (He arose from a humble station.)  or, more snobbishly,  Ex obscuro genere ortus est. (He came from an obscure family.)  or even:  Nostri ordinis non erat. (He was not of our order.)  That last sounds especially Tacitean.  Now Grice would have enjoyed the point that this is all relative. Just as:  orthodoxy = my doxy, heterodoxy = your doxy,  so too:  noble birth = my ancestry, obscure birth = yours.  (Ha.) Indeed, one might imagine a confrontation: Aristocrat:  Ex obscuro genere ortus est. (He came from an obscure family.)   Griceus:  Obscuro secundum quem? (Obscure according to whom?)   Aristocrat:  Secundum me. (According to me.)   Griceus:  Intellexi. (I understand.)  +> "obscure" is not a purely descriptive predicate but often an aristocratic one.  For Tacitus, then, the interesting question is not merely:  Was Crispus from the wrong side of the tracks?  but:  How did he arrive on the right side?  And the Tacitean answer is characteristically left incomplete:  Sub Nerone floruit. (He prospered under Nero.)  The reader is invited to follow the money and supply the rest. (Ha.)

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vibullio – Ossia: Grice e Vibullio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vibullio H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VIBULLIO The gens Vibullia, occasionally written Vibulia, was a minor plebeian family at ancient Rome. Members of this gens first appear in history in the years following the Third Samnite War,[1] but after this they are hardly mentioned until the end of the Republic, at which time they were of senatorial rank.[2] A wealthy family of this name rose to prominence at Athens during the latter part of the first century.[3] Others are known from inscriptions.  Origin The nomen Vibullius belongs to a relatively small class of gentilicia formed directly from cognomina ending in the diminutive suffix -ulus.[4] The root appears to be the praenomen Vibius, uncommon at Rome but relatively common in Oscan-speaking regions of Italy. The name would thus be cognate with other gentilicia, such as Vibuleius and Vibidius.[5]  Praenomina The main praenomina of the Vibullii were Lucius and Marcus, two of the most abundant names at all periods of Roman history. These were supplemented as needed with other common praenomina, such as Gaius and Quintus. A few Vibullii bore other names, including Decimus, Publius, and Titus.  Branches and cognomina The only distinct family of the Vibulii bore the cognomen Rufus, originally indicating someone with red hair, and belonging to a large class of surnames derived from the physical traits of individuals.[6]  Members This list includes abbreviated praenomina. For an explanation of this practice, see filiation. Decimus Vibullius, a military tribune, commanded the besieged Roman garrison at Thurii in 282 BC, while the consul Gaius Fabricius Luscinus was engaged in fighting against the Samnites, Bruttii, and Lucani, whom he defeated to raise the siege.[7][8][1] Marcus Vibullius M. l. Septimus, a freedman memorialized at Casilinum in Campania, with a first-century BC cenotaph dedicated by the freedwoman Numisia Glapira.[9] Lucius Vibullius C. f., along with Gaius Alfius Surus, dedicated a tomb at Fabrateria Vetus in Latium, dating between the beginning of the first century BC, and the middle of the first century AD, for his friend, Lucius Alfius Rufus.[10] Vibullius Agrippa, a senator who killed himself in the reign of Tiberius, before he could be convicted of any crime. Lucius Vibullius Pontianus, made an offering to Diana at Veleia, according to an inscription dating between the death of Augustus and the middle of the first century.[11] Vibullius, a military tribune serving with the Legio VII Claudia at Promona in Dalmatia during the reign of Caligula.[12] Gaius Vibulius C. f. Valentinus, a native of Mediolanum in Gallia Narbonensis, was a soldier in the Legio XXII Primigenia, buried at Mogontiacum in Germania Superior, aged thirty-eight, and having served eighteen years, in a tomb dating from the reigns of Claudius or Nero.[13] Vibullius Felicio, named in a wooden inscription from Pompeii in Campania.[14] Gaius Vibullius Fidus, a former procurator in Syria, was buried in a first-century tomb built by his wife at Ficulea in Latium.[15] Quintus Vibullius Secundio, one of the seviri Augustales, buried in a first-century tomb at Peltuinum in Sabinum, with a monument from his wife, the freedwoman Vibullia Marina.[16] Vibullia Marina, a freedwoman who dedicated a first-century monument at Peltuinum for her husband, Quintus Vibullius Secundus.[16] Vibullius, praetor in AD 58, during the reign of Nero, ordered the arrest of several disorderly persons, who were then released by Antistius, one of the plebeian tribunes. Vibullius complained of this to the senate, which censured Antistius. This was one of several disputes involving the authority of magistrates and other public officials at this time, which led to a number of reforms.[17][18][19] Lucius Vibullius Pius, a native of Isthmia in Achaia, was a priest of Mars, named in an inscription from Corinth, dating from the last decade of the first century.[20][21] Lucius Vibullius, named in an inscription from Veleia, dating from the reign of Nerva.[22] Lucius Vibullius Montanus, one of the seviri Augustales serving the cult of the Flavian emperors, buried at Aquae Statiellae in Liguria, along with his children, Lucius, another Lucius, Titus, and Procula, in a tomb dating between the death of Vespasian and the end of the second century.[23] Lucius Vibullius L. f., either of two sons of Lucius Vibullius Montanus, the Flavian priest, buried with their father and siblings at Aquae Statiellae.[23] Titus Vibullius L. f., a son of Lucius Vibullius Montanus, the Flavian priest, buried with his father and siblings at Aquae Statiellae.[23] Procula Vibullia L. f., or perhaps Vibullia L. f. Procula, the daughter of Lucius Vibullius Montanus, the Flavian priest, buried with her father and siblings at Aquae Statiellae.[23] Lucius Vibullius Successus, named on a number of pottery stamps from Rome, originating from the estate of Annius Verus, and dating from AD 123.[24] Publius Coelius P. f. Balbinus Vibullius Pius,[i] consul in AD 137.[26] Quintus Vibullius, built a monument to the flaminica Vennonia Marcellina at Pollentia in Liguria, paid for by the decurions of the city, and dating between AD 130 and 150.[27] Marcus Vibullius Verus, a native of Dertona in Liguria, was a speculator, or scout, serving in the second cohort of the praetorian guard at Rome in AD 143.[28] Marcus Vibullius Venerianus, along with his wife, Cornelia Gemella, dedicated a second century tomb at Patrae in Achaia for their son, Marcus Vibullius.[29] Marcus Vibullius M. f., buried at Patrae, in a second-century tomb dedicated by his parents, Marcus Vibullius Venerianus and Cornelia Gemella.[29] Vibullia Calliope, buried in a second-century tomb at Furfo in Sabinum, along with Lucius Variasius.[30] Lucius Vibullius Fortunatus, buried at Interamna Lirenas, aged fifty years, six months, and seven days, in a second-century tomb built by his wife, Valeria Capitolina.[31] Lucius Vibullius Pius Augustanus Alpinus Bellicius Sollers, one of the priests of the imperial cult at Tibur during the late second century.[32] Quintus Vibullius Baric, the husband of Julia Saturnina, father of Vibullia Saturnina, and grandfather of Claudia Monna. His wife dedicated a second- or third-century tomb at Tipasa in Mauretania Caesariensis for their daughter and granddaughter.[33] Vibullia Q. f. Saturnina, the daughter of Quintus Vibullius Baric and Julia Saturnina, buried at Tipasa along with her daughter or niece, Claudia Monna, in a second- or third-century tomb built by her mother.[33] Vibulius Doryphorus, dedicated a tomb for his wife, Valeria Victorina, at Asseria in Dalmatia, dating between the middle of the second century, and the end of the third.[34] Vibullius M. f. Felix, a native of Ateste in Venetia and Histria, was a member of the praetorian armourers' guild at Rome, during the late second century, or at the beginning of the third.[35] Vibulii Rufi Lucius Vibullius Rufus, a Roman Senator, was a trusted friend of Pompeius, who sent him to raise troops in Picenum at the beginning of the Civil War in 49 BC. Unable to make headway, Rufus took charge of the garrison of Corfinium, where he was captured by Caesar, but dismissed unharmed. He was captured and pardoned a second time when Caesar defeated the Pompeians in Spain, then sent as an envoy to Pompeius in 48. Remaining loyal to his friend, Rufus delivered intelligence concerning Caesar's arrival in Greece.[36][37][38][39] (Lucius Vibullius) Rufus, married Claudia Alcia, the daughter, or perhaps sister, of Tiberius Claudius Hipparchus. He was the father of Vibullia Alcia Agrippina, who married Tiberius Claudius Atticus Herodes, either her uncle or her cousin, and probably also of Lucius Vibullius Rufus, who married Herodes' sister, Claudia Athenais.[40] Vibullia (L. f.) Alcia Agrippina, the wife of Tiberius Claudius Atticus Herodes, consul in AD 133, who was either her uncle or cousin. Their sons were the sophist Herodes Atticus and Tiberius Claudius Atticus Herodianus.[41][42] Lucius Vibullius (L. f.) Rufus, probably the son of Vibullius Rufus and Claudia Alcia, married Claudia Athenais, either his aunt or cousin. They were the parents of Lucius Vibullius Hipparchus Vibullius Rufus, Archon of Athens in AD 118 and 119, and of Vibullius Rufus, whose son was adopted by his cousin Herodes Atticus.[43] Lucius Vibullius Hipparchus Tiberius Claudius Ti. f. Atticus Herodes,[ii] better known simply as "Herodes Atticus", was a sophist and scholar, and consul in AD 143. Although he had several children by his wife, Appia Annia Regilla, he adopted his cousin, Lucius Vibullius Claudius Herodes.[44][45] (Lucius Vibullius L. f. L. n.) Rufus, the son of Lucius Vibullius Rufus and Claudia Athenais, attested from an inscription as the father of Lucius Vibullius Claudius Herodes.[46] Lucius Vibullius L. f. (L. n.) Hipparchus, Archon of Athens in AD 118 and 119, was the son of Lucius Vibullius Rufus and Claudia Athenais. His son, Publius Aelius Vibullius Rufus, was Archon of Athens in 143 and 144. He might also have been the father of Vibullius Polydeucion.[47] Lucius Vibullius Claudius Herodes, the son of (Lucius Vibullius) Rufus, and grandson of Lucius Vibullius Rufus and Claudia Athenais, was adopted by his cousin, the sophist Herodes Atticus, consul in AD 143.[48] Publius Aelius Vibullius L. f. L. n. Rufus, the son of Lucius Vibullius Hipparchus, was Archon of Athens in AD 143 and 144.[49] Vibullius Polydeucion, perhaps the son of Lucius Vibullius Hipparchus, and brother of Publius Aelius Vibullius Rufus, both Archons of Athens.[50][51] Lucius Vibullius P. f. L. n. Hipparchus, the son of Publius Aelius Vibullius Rufus, Archon of Athens in AD 143 and 144, married a daughter of his cousin, Herodes Atticus, although it is uncertain whether his wife was Elpinice or Athenais.[52][53] (Vibullia) Athenais, the daughter of Lucius Vibullius Hipparchus, and granddaughter of Herodes Atticus.[54][55] Vibullia Regilla, buried at Portus in Latium, along with her husband, Quintus Septueius Abascantus, in a tomb dedicated by their daughter, Septueia Vera, dating from the middle portion of the second century.[56] Undated Vibullii Vibullia C. f., the wife of Lucius Prusinius, and mother of Lucius Prusinius and Prusinia, all buried in a family sepulchre at Casinum in Latium, built by her sons, Marcus and Gaius Prusinius.[57] Gaius Vibulius P. f. Adauctus, buried at Corinth.[58] Vibullia Amanda, dedicated a tomb at Casinum for her son, Gaius Futius Successus.[59] Marcus Vibullius Augurinus, along with his children, Victorina, Albinianus, Anulinus, and Lucillia, dedicated a tomb at Rome for his wife, Lucilia Lucilliana, aged thirty-six years, four months, and twenty-seven days.[60] Titus Vibullius T. f. T. n. M. pron. Cornutus Pius, a conductor, or independent businessman, named in an inscription from Heliopolis in Syria.[61] Vibullius Fortunatus, buried at Catina in Sicily, aged sixty.[62] Lucius Vibullius Gemellus, together with his brother, Lucius Vibullius Proculinus, dedicated a tomb at Casinum for their mother, Alfia Primitiva, aged forty-five years, ten months, and twenty days.[63] Vibullius Impetratus, buried at Mactaris in Africa Proconsularis, in a tomb dedicated by Faustilla.[64] Vibullia Pardala, buried at Rome, with a monument from Nymphodotus.[65] Vibullius Priscianus, buried at Rome, along with his grandson, Claudius Bacchius, in a tomb built by his wife, Regulia Materna.[66] Lucius Vibullius Proculinus, together with his brother, Lucius Vibullius Gemellus, dedicated a tomb at Casinum for their mother, Alfia Primitiva.[63] Marcus Vibullius P. f. Proculus, a youth buried at Albingaunum in Liguria, aged seventeen, with a monument dedicated by his mother, Cornelia Procula.[67] Vibullius Verus, known from an inscription of Gallia Narbonensis.[68] See also List of Roman gentes Notes  Evidently a member of the Coelia gens, descended from the Vibullii through a maternal line, as his name was usually abbreviated to "Publius Coelius Balbinus".[25]  Despite the order of his names, he was technically a Claudius, and descended from the Vibulii through his mother, but several members of his family had married into the Vibullia gens, who may have been considered more authentically Roman. The Claudii Attici had only obtained Roman citizenship a few generations earlier, and were not directly descended from the ancient Claudia gens. References  Broughton, vol. I, p. 189.  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. III, p. 1256 ("L. Vibullius Rufus").  PW, s.v. 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Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vibullio – Ossia: Grice e Vibullio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vibullio For the Vibullii, I am tempted by three candidates:  Lucius Vibullius Rufus, the loyal friend and envoy of Pompey. [GREXv3 | Word] The unnamed praetor Vibullius under Nero, embroiled in a constitutional dispute with the tribune Antistius. [GREXv3 | Word] The Athenian branch culminating in Herodes Atticus, where adoption, kinship, and naming become almost a philosophy seminar. [GREXv3 | Word]  But my Grice-Speranza choice is overwhelmingly:  Lucius Vibullius Rufus, the faithful friend of Pompey. [GREXv3 | Word]  Why? Because his whole historical role is communicative. He is:  envoy, intermediary, intelligence-bearer, negotiator, friend.  Cicero and Caesar repeatedly present him moving between camps, carrying information and messages during the Civil War. He was captured by Caesar, pardoned, later acted as an envoy to Pompey, and remained loyal to him. [GREXv3 | Word]  The perfect Gricean question A Roman general can command. An envoy must persuade. The envoy lives entirely in the space between:  what is said  and  what is intended.  Suppose Pompey tells Rufus: Pompeius:  Vade ad Caesarem. (Go to Caesar.)   Rufus:  Quid dicam? (What shall I say?)   Pompeius:  Pacem volumus. (We want peace.)   Grice immediately asks:  Is that all he means?  (Ha.) Probably not. Perhaps:  We want peace on favorable terms.  Or:  We want time.  Or:  We want intelligence.  The envoy must reconstruct intentions.  Rufus as the anti-delator Compared with our previous hero Quintus Vibius Crispus, the alleged delator under Nero, Rufus is almost noble. [GREXv3 | Word] The delator exploits communication. The envoy sustains communication.  Caesar captures Rufus An excellent Gricean moment occurs when Caesar captures men and then releases them. Caesar:  Dimitto te. (I release you.)   Rufus:  Cur? (Why?)   Caesar:  Ut redeas. (So that you may return.)   Rufus:  Intellego. (I understand.)   The explicit meaning:  "You are free."  The possible implicature:  "Observe my clemency."  Or even:  "Remember who behaved better."  A very Caesarian move. (Ha.)  Runner-up: the Nero episode There is also a strikingly Gricean constitutional dispute involving the praetor Vibullius. When he arrested disorderly persons, the tribune Antistius released them, leading to a conflict over authority that reached the Senate. [GREXv3 | Word] This is pure Austin: Praetor:  Comprehendantur. (Let them be arrested.)  Tribune:  Dimittantur. (Let them be released.)  Which speech act prevails? A beautiful question, but the evidence is thinner.  The Athenian Vibullii The later Athenian line, entangled with Herodes Atticus, is also attractive because of adoption and naming. [GREXv3 | Word] A Griceian could spend weeks asking:  Who is really a Vibullius? The biological son? The adopted son? The bearer of the name?  A question halfway between Roman law and the philosophy of reference.  Final verdict For:  Grice e Vibullio  I choose Lucius Vibullius Rufus, the friend and messenger of Pompey. [GREXv3 | Word] Because among all the Vibullii, he is the one whose life consists in carrying meanings from one mind to another. A final Oxford reconstruction: Pompeius:  Intellegetne Caesar quid significem? (Will Caesar understand what I mean?)   Rufus:  Conabor efficere. (I shall try to make him do so.)   Grice:  Ecce philosophia. (There is philosophy.)  (Ha.) For the envoy's whole profession is to ensure that what one man means is recognized by another. Few Roman careers could be more Gricean than that. For the constitutional dispute -- the one involved in it -- the point is Griceian and Hartian. If it involves THIS dispute, with Gaius and Publius, etc -- this is one thing -- if the 'lex' V is about 'a Roman who will behave in such and such disorderly way in public will be arrested.' -- and hence the 'lex' of the tribune A. -- "It shall NOT be the case that the disorderly behaviour as described by V. will guarantee or commend a grand arrest -- just a rebuke or retort -- Latin for these? Thanks

 

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vibullio – Ossia: Grice e Vibullio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vibullio  Yes, and I think this is exactly where the episode involving the praetor Vibullius and the tribune Antistius becomes more Hartian than historical. Tacitus' account concerns a jurisdictional dispute: the praetor had certain disorderly persons arrested; the tribune released them; the Senate ultimately censured the tribune. [GREXv3 | Word] Your reconstruction is really a dispute about what H. L. A. Hart would call the relation between a rule and the consequences attached to its violation. One might formulate the praetorian principle:  Si quis turbam aut tumultum faciat, comprehendatur. (If anyone causes disorder or disturbance, let him be arrested.)  The key word is:  comprehendatur (let him be seized/arrested).  Or:  in vincula ducatur (let him be led into custody).   Then comes the tribunal modification. The tribune is not necessarily denying the description. He may say:  "Yes, the fellow behaved badly."  The disagreement concerns the sanction. Thus:  Non omnis qui tumultuatur comprehendendus est. (Not everyone who causes a disturbance ought to be arrested.)  or  Monendus est, non comprehendendus. (He should be warned, not arrested.)   For "rebuke" the Romans had several possibilities. Mild  monitio warning   monere to warn  Thus:  Moneatur. (Let him be warned.)   Stronger  reprehensio rebuke   reprehendere to rebuke  Thus:  Reprehendatur. (Let him be reprimanded.)   Very public  obiurgatio scolding, official rebuke   obiurgare to rebuke sharply  Thus:  Obiurgandus est, non vinculis coercendus. (He should be rebuked, not restrained with chains.)  (Ha.)  A Grice-Hart version of the dispute: Vibullius:  Qui rem publicam turbat comprehendatur. (Whoever disturbs public order shall be arrested.)   Antistius:  Non sequitur. (It does not follow.)   Vibullius:  Cur non? (Why not?)   Antistius:  Tumultus reprehensionem fortasse meretur; non statim custodiam. (Disorder may deserve rebuke; not immediately imprisonment.)   Vibullius:  Ergo quid faciendum? (Then what is to be done?)   Antistius:  Moneatur, obiurgetur, dimittatur. (Let him be warned, rebuked, and released.)   What makes this Gricean is that the quarrel concerns the inference:  Disorderly conduct. Therefore arrest.  The tribune's complaint is not:  "There was no disorder."  but rather:  "The conclusion is too strong."  Almost exactly the structure of Grice's favorite phrase:  Non sequitur. (It does not follow.)  And rather like your earlier Pollio example:  Cup broken. Therefore execute the slave.  Augustus replies:  Non sequitur.  The tribune's constitutional version would be:  Disturbance committed. Therefore arrest.  Again:  Non sequitur.  The issue is not the facts but the transition from fact to sanction. That is simultaneously Roman, Hartian, and Griceian. (Ha.) When Grice played with Popper's idea of World 3 for the history of jurisprudence: either V left a mark in history -- or rather A did not -- or A did. A WAS CENSORED so the immediate effect was null -- unless some jurisprudential name later invoked A. to turn milder the original V. 'law' Thanks Yes, and this is exactly the sort of thing that would have fascinated both Grice and Popper. In actual history, the immediate result seems clear:  the praetor Vibullius exercised authority, the tribune Antistius countermanded him, the Senate censured Antistius. [GREXv3 | Word]  If we stop there, then:  V. won. A. lost.  But that is only World 1 (events) and perhaps World 2 (attitudes). Your Popperian question concerns World 3:  What happened to the legal idea?  (Ha.)  A jurisprudential historian would ask: Did Antistius lose the case? Probably. Did Antistius lose the argument? Not necessarily.  The Hartian reconstruction is: Vibullius  Disorder ⇒ arrest.  Latin:  Qui tumultuatur comprehendatur. (Who causes a disturbance shall be arrested.)   Antistius Not:  No disturbance occurred.  But:  Disturbance does not automatically entail arrest.  Latin:  Non omnis qui peccat comprehendendus est. (Not everyone who misbehaves ought to be arrested.)  or:  Moneatur potius quam comprehendatur. (Let him be warned rather than arrested.)   Now comes the Popper point. Suppose the Senate censures Antistius. Then in World 1:  Antistius loses.  Yet a later jurist may effectively revive the principle:  coercion should be the last remedy, admonition the first.  Then Antistius has entered World 3.  A Griceian version: Immediate conversational outcome A:  "Do not arrest."  B:  "Arrest."  Senate:  "B is right."   But Grice would ask:  What proposition has become available for future discussion?  Namely:  "Is arrest the necessary consequence of disorderly conduct?"  That question survives even if Antistius does not.  One can imagine the jurisprudential afterlife. Jurist of the second century:  Non statim ad poenam currendum est. (One must not immediately resort to punishment.)   Ghost of Antistius:  Hoc ipsum dixi. (That is precisely what I said.)  (Ha.)  This resembles another of your favourite examples. At the Caudine Forks, the Samnites won militarily. Then the Roman legalists begin asking:  Was it really a sponsio? Was it really binding?  The event is over. The conceptual debate survives. Likewise: World 1 Antistius is censured. World 3 The idea remains:  not every offence warrants the strongest sanction.   A Gricean moral might be:  An argument may fail politically but survive conceptually.  Latin:  Argumentum potest civiliter vinci sed intellectualiter superesse. (An argument can be defeated politically yet survive intellectually.)  Or more curtly:  Vir victus est; sententia superfuit. (The man was defeated; the doctrine survived.)  (Ha.) And that is exactly the sort of distinction Popper's World 3 allows us to make. Antistius the historical person may have lost; Antistius' legal thought may have become part of the continuing conversation of Roman jurisprudence. Whether that actually happened in this case is harder to prove from the sources, but as a Grice-Popper question it is a very good one indeed.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vicini: LA ragione conversazionale. Note u Causa di simultanea successione. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Giovanni Vicini (Cento, Emilia): Institutionally, Grice and Giovanni Vicini are not comparable in the same academic format at all. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense. Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s means a college office with tutorials, student responsibility, and membership in the governing life of the college. CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford means a university-wide faculty appointment. So Grice combines the two classic Oxford functions: college tutor and university lecturer. Giovanni Vicini belongs to a different world altogether. He was not an Oxford-style don and not primarily a university professor. He was a lawyer, political actor, revolutionary statesman, exile, and later legal consultant. In other words, the closest comparison is not with Grice’s tutorial and lecturing roles, but with a public intellectual whose main forum was law and politics rather than a college or university chair. So the clean institutional contrast is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university role. Vicini was a jurist and political leader whose authority came from congresses, provisional governments, public declarations, exile politics, and legal practice, not from a tutorial fellowship or a university lectureship. That institutional difference fits your philosophical comparison rather well. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: how a hearer gets from what is said to what is meant by recognising a speaker’s intention under conversational norms. Vicini, in the material you give, works at the macro-level of public reasoning: how legal and political discourse changes common ground, redefines who counts as a subject of right, and forces an audience toward a practical conclusion. So if you want the sharpest formulation, I would put it this way. Grice analyses how an utterance becomes intelligible as a rational move in conversation. Vicini exemplifies how public, juridical, and political speech is used to make certain conclusions the only reasonable ones for a civic audience. That is why your 1827 inheritance-rights text is actually an excellent hook. The dispute is not just about law in the abstract; it is about what counts, in public reason, as the relevant principle for deciding a case. If he argues from the Napoleonic Code for parity of inheritance rights between Christians and Jews, then the act of argument is already a reorganisation of the audience’s assumptions about legal standing and equal subjecthood. So a Gricean reading would say: Vicini’s legal interventions are not mere statements of fact; they are attempts to create a shared inferential path from accepted premises to a politically charged conclusion. That is exactly where your phrase “conversational reason” becomes useful as a comparative gloss. There are a few factual cautions, though. First, I would not assume that Vicini is best described as a philosopher in the narrow sense. He is better described as lawyer, jurist, and political actor. Second, the biographical sequence you give has the right shape and is quite vivid, but for a polished entry one would want to distinguish clearly between his Napoleonic sympathies, his role in the 1831 provisional government, his exile, and his later legal practice. Third, your final bibliographic line looks plausible and useful, and it is the strongest concrete item in the note, because it anchors the abstract legal-political role in a specific public argument. So the short, clean answer is this. H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford philosopher with a dual institutional role, college tutor and university lecturer. Giovanni Vicini, by contrast, was a nineteenth-century Italian jurist and political actor, whose public authority derived from law, revolutionary government, exile, and legal consultation rather than from an academic office. Institutionally they are not comparable. Intellectually, however, the contrast is illuminating: Grice explains the inferential micro-mechanics of meaning in ordinary conversation, whereas Vicini exemplifies the use of legal-political discourse to reshape public reason, institutional judgement, and the practical recognition of rights. And if I compress it into the simplest dossier line: Grice theorises rational uptake in talk; Vicini practises rational uptake in law and politics. If you want, I can now give you one short polished paragraph in your preferred style, or a more bibliographic headnote that begins with the 1827 succession case and then folds in the political biography.La ragione conversazionale. Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning explains how an utterance becomes intelligible as a rational move in a cooperative exchange: what is meant is recovered by the addressee through intention-recognition and the disciplined inference of implicatures against shared norms of relevance, evidence, and informativeness. Giovanni Vicini’s “conversational reason,” by contrast, is presented in your passage as a civic-juridical practice rather than a linguistic micro-mechanism: he speaks and writes in contexts where conversation (in congresses, provisional governments, exile negotiations, and later legal consultations) is inseparable from institutional authority, public risk, and the practical settlement of rights—especially visible in his 1827 argument, grounded in the Napoleonic Code, for parity of inheritance rights between Christians and Jews. Put Griceanly, Vicini’s interventions are not merely exchanges of information but attempts to make certain conclusions the only reasonable uptake for a public audience: his “dicta” are engineered to supply reasons strong enough to reorganize common ground (what counts as legally salient, who counts as an equal subject of right), and to constrain opposing interpretations as unreasonable. The comparison, then, is that Grice theorizes the inferential norms that make meaning possible within ordinary talk, while Vicini exemplifies how those norms are heightened and externalized in legal-political discourse, where implicature is less a polite conversational by-product than a strategic, accountability-laden way of getting others to recognize, accept, and act on reasons in the public sphere. Studia a Cento e Bologna. Adere alle idee di Napoleone e con la nascita della repubblica cispadana rappresenta Cento ai congressi di Reggio Emilia e di Modena. Dopo la caduta di Napoleone si tenne lontano dalla politica. Dopo i moti insurrezionali è eletto presidente del governo provvisorio di Bologna e della provincia e dal pubblico palazzo della città DICHIARA CESATTO DI FATTO IL POTERE TEMPORALE DEL PAPA. Nello stesso palazzo venne eletto dall'assemblea dei notabili, costituita dai deputati delle province insorte, presidente della Commissione provvisoria di governo delle province unite italiane. In seguito alla resa di Ancona, non avendo il pontefice Gregorio voluto riconoscere la capitolazione di Benvenuti, pattuita e ratificata in suo nome, V. è costretto a fuggire in esilio, prima in Corsica e poi a Marsiglia, insieme al figlio Timoteo. Tornato in Italia, si stabilisce prima in Toscana e poi a Porretta Terme, dove conosce e sposa la seconda moglie, Catterina Agostini. È relegato a Massa Lombarda sotto la sorveglianza politica d’Ugolini, Legato della Provincia di Ferrara. Qui, per provvedere al mantenimento della sua famiglia -- nel frattempo aveva avuto cinque figli, di cui tre moriranno in tenera età --, apre un ufficio per consultazioni legali. Muore in povertà a Massa Lombarda. Le sue spoglie giaceranno anonime e senza memoria fino a quando, per iniziativa del sindaco BONVICINI , il municipio di Massa Lombarda gli erige un busto nella biblioteca comunale e un piccolo monumento funebre nel cimitero locale, opera dello scultore Pacchioni. Cimitero di Massa Lombarda, ricordo marmoreo di V. La polemica con Berni degli Antoni. V. pubblica un testo, Causa di simultanea successione di cristiani e d’ebrei ad intestata eredità di un loro congiunto, nel quale, contro il parere espresso dal domenicano Jabalot e basandosi sul codice napoleonico, s’esprime a favore della parità di diritti tra ebrei e cristiani nel diritto di successione.  Grice: Accidenti, Vicini, sembra che tu abbia vissuto più avventure politiche di quante io abbia affrontato dispute filosofiche! Dimmi un po’, dichiarare “cessato di fatto” il potere temporale del Papa è stato più stressante che difendere la logica a Oxford? Vicini: Caro Grice, almeno a Oxford non dovevi evitare la scomunica o fare le valigie per la Corsica e Marsiglia! Dopo tutto questo, ogni consulenza legale che ho offerto a Massa Lombarda mi è sembrata un vero riposo—tranne quando qualcuno voleva parlare dei diritti di successione tra cristiani ed ebrei, naturalmente. Grice: Ah, le consulenze legali! Suppongo che tu preferissi le discussioni animate ai monumenti di marmo... Ma sinceramente, Vicini, ammiro come le tue conversazioni non si siano limitate alla filosofia—hanno plasmato leggi e diritti. Hai mai pensato che i principi filosofici potessero calmare gli insurrezionisti? Vicini: Solo se quegli insurrezionisti avevano senso dell’umorismo, Grice! I principi filosofici sono come la famiglia: a volte portano conforto, a volte portano caos. Ma alla fine, sia al congresso sia nel mio ufficio legale, ho sempre creduto che una conversazione amichevole potesse durare più di qualsiasi rivoluzione—even se la mia tomba è rimasta anonima per un po’! Vicini, Giovanni (1827). Causa di simultanea successione di cristiani e di ebrei ad intestata eredità di un loro congiunto.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vico: “We should treat those who were great and are dead as if they were great  and living” (Grice) -- la ragione conversazionale e l’implicatura conversazionale dell’antichissima sapienza degl'italici da rintracciare nell’origini della sua lingua. Note su Affeti di un disperato. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Giovanni Battista Vico (Napoli, Campania), Compared institutionally, Grice and Giambattista Vico are much closer than Grice and a poet, rhetor, or chancery official, because both are recognisably academic teachers; but they still belong to very different university worlds. Giambattista Vico was born in Naples in 1668, took the doctorate in law by 1694, and from 1699 held the chair of rhetoric at the University of Naples, a post he kept until 1741, when he was succeeded by his son. [treccani.it], [plato.stanford.edu], [encyclopedia.com] So the clean institutional comparison is this. Grice was an Oxford don in the strict modern sense: college Fellow and Tutor at St John’s, plus a university-wide lectureship. Vico, by contrast, was a professor in the old Neapolitan university system: not a college fellow in a residential tutorial structure, but a salaried holder of a rhetoric chair in a civic university, trained in jurisprudence and aiming, unsuccessfully, at a higher chair in law. [treccani.it], [plato.stanford.edu], [encyclopedia.com] That institutional difference aligns rather neatly with the philosophical contrast you are drawing. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: how a hearer gets from what is said to what is meant by recognising a speaker’s intention under conversational norms. Vico, by contrast, works at the macro-level of historical intelligibility: how a people’s language, metaphors, institutions, and imaginative universals make certain kinds of meaning and reasoning possible in the first place. His mature work turns rhetoric, philology, history, and jurisprudence into a single inquiry into how human worlds are made and therefore can be understood. [plato.stanford.edu], [britannica.com], [encyclopedia.com] So if you want the sharpest formulation, I would put it this way. Grice explains how one utterance, here and now, can carry an implicature. Vico explains how a civilisation acquires the linguistic and imaginative background within which such implicatures can later become possible at all. [plato.stanford.edu], [britannica.com] That is why your line about “treating the great dead as if they were great and living” is actually apt as a Vichian methodological gloss. A Gricean reading of the dead asks: what did this speaker mean? A Vichian reading adds: what world of language, custom, and imagination had to exist for that meaning to be available in the first place? A few factual corrections are worth making. First, the name is best given as Giambattista or Giovanni Battista Vico, not “Gian Battista” if you want maximum bibliographic regularity. The major reference entries use Giambattista Vico or Giambattista Vico. [treccani.it], [plato.stanford.edu] Second, on the earliest datable item: your 1693 Affetti di un disperato is a very good candidate if your criterion is earliest datable composition now in view. Scholarly discussions explicitly identify Affetti di un disperato as a poem from 1693 and treat it as Vico’s first publication. [jstor.org], [tecalibri.info], [taylorfrancis.com] Third, on Oxford reception: your Collingwood line is solid. R. G. Collingwood translated Benedetto Croce’s The Philosophy of Giambattista Vico in 1913, and that is indeed one major conduit by which Vico entered the Anglophone and Oxford conversation. [archive.org], [gutenberg.org], [loc.gov] So the short plain-English comparison is this: H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford don, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford, combining the college tutorial system with a university faculty role. Giambattista Vico, by contrast, was a Neapolitan professor of rhetoric, trained in law and working in the old civic-university chair system of Naples. Institutionally, Grice belongs to the tutorial-collegiate world; Vico to the rhetoric-and-jurisprudence world of the early modern university. Philosophically, the contrast is equally clear: Grice analyses how meaning is rationally recoverable in a particular exchange, whereas Vico investigates the historical formation of the languages, institutions, and imaginative structures that make such exchanges intelligible at all. [treccani.it], [plato.stanford.edu], [britannica.com], [encyclopedia.com] And if you want the neatest dossier line for the earliest item, I would suggest this: Vico, Giambattista. 1693. Affetti di un disperato. Earliest securely datable work in the present dossier. [jstor.org], [tecalibri.info] If you want, I can now compress all that into one single entry-style paragraph in your preferred register, or give you a brief separate note on Vico’s earliest datable work versus earliest major philosophical work.V. insegna:“We should treat those who were great and are dead as if they were great  and living” (Grice) -- Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning treats understanding as a rational recovery of speaker-meaning: hearers infer what is meant (including implicatures) by assuming cooperative norms and by recognizing intentions that are meant to be recognized. Vico, by contrast, relocates “reason in language” from the micro-logic of a talk-exchange to a historical-genealogical logic: what a people can mean, and what can count as a reason, is sedimented in the origins and transformations of their linguistic and imaginative practices (the “antichissima sapienza” embedded in etymology, myth, metaphor, and the evolution from poetic to reflective speech). A Gricean reading can treat Vico’s etymologies and “poetic logic” as a kind of diachronic pragmatics: they map how shared background assumptions (the common ground that makes implicature calculable) are formed over centuries, not just presupposed in a single conversation; conversely, a Vichian reading can treat Grice’s maxims and implicatures as the thin, late, rationalized surface of a much deeper imaginative infrastructure—language as a civil institution that first makes minds shareable before it makes them cooperative. The upshot is that Grice explains how, given a stable linguistic practice, rational agents generate and recover implied meaning, while Vico explains how those practices (and the very categories of relevance, evidence, and intelligibility) come to exist through history, so that “treating the great dead as living” becomes not merely a pious conversational stance but a methodological commitment: understanding past speech-acts requires reconstructing the forms of life and imaginative universals in which their reasons for meaning anything at all originally had their home. la ragione conversazionale e l’implicatura conversazionale dell’antichissima sapienza degl'italici da rintracciare nell’origini della sua lingua. Grice: “While he does not belong to a formal "V. school," my play-group mate Hampshire is a key figure in a Oxford V. tradition that emphasised historical imagination and the philosophy of mind over rigid rationalism. Within the "Oxford circle," Collingwood is the most significant conduit for V.'s ideas. Collingwood translates CROCE’s The Philosophy of V., effectively introducing the thought of V. to Oxford. Collingwood states that V. influences him "more than anyone else," a debt visible in his landmark work The Idea of History, where he champions V. as the father of the philosophy of history. This legacy establishes a lineage at Oxford that prioritises the "human sciences" -- history, language, and art -- as distinct from the natural sciences.  Hampshire sees V. as a precursor to the theories of the unconscious and intentionality.  Hampshire is part of a post-war anti-rationalist group at Oxford, alongside Berlin and Williams, who turns to V. to challenge moral and political thought. Berlin’s own essays on V. are a primary contemporary source. Hampshire cites Joyce’s Finnegans Wake as a gateway to V., and he is fascinated by how V.s philosophy of primitive thought and metaphor provides the scaffolding for Joyce’s experiments. Unlike Collingwood, who focused on V.'s history, Hampshire uses V. to critique philosophical psychology. He argues that V.’s insight, that humans understand what they themselves have made -- verum factum-- reveals the necessity of the imagination in forming human knowledge. Grice goes on to explore how Hampshire applies these ideas of V. to Hampshire’s own Thought and Action. G.: “The best philosopher, but that’s Hampshire’s judgement!” “Si potrebbe presentare la storia ulteriore del pensiero come un ricorso delle idee di V.” – CROCE – cf. Whitehead on metaphysics as footnotes to Plato. GENTILE. Studi vichiani  G.: Caro Vico, non puoi immaginare la mia fretta di raccontarti questa novità: Hampshire, quel barbaro venuto da Vadum Boum, ha finalmente posato gli occhi sul capolavoro che io – da vera tradizione – non chiamo mai “nuova”. Del resto, come si dice in Vadum Bovum: “everything old is new again”. Vico: Ah, caro Grice, come ti capisco! In fondo, noi vecchi filosofi sappiamo bene che le idee girano, ritornano, si vestono da nuove e sono sempre figlie della loro storia. Quella frase inglese dice la verità: tutto ciò che è antico trova sempre modo di tornare a brillare! G.: E lo sai, Vico, Hampshire non si è fermato lì: ora si diverte a scoprire quanto sia “clever” il latino – una vera risonanza del mio motto “how clever language is”! Pare che il latino sia come una scatola magica, dove ogni parola ha mille vite. Vico: Eh, Grice, se il latino è così “clever”, è perché gli ITALI – proprio noi italici – siamo clever! Nessuna lingua diventa ingegnosa senza una mente brillante dietro: come dice il vecchio proverbio napoletano, “Chi ha testa, la usa persino per far parlare il passato”. G.: Hampshire, I gather you have been reading Vico again with that tone of pleased impatience which usually means you think the rest of us have been looking in the wrong place. H.: It often means no more than that I think the rest of you have been looking in too narrow a place. G.: A distinction with your usual moral ambition. Let me guess: language, imagination, and the first institutions of a people. H.: Exactly. Vico is valuable because he does not begin with propositions already cleaned and ironed. He begins where language is still thick with myth, fear, bodily image, and practical need. G.: So he does not begin where I usually do. H.: No. You begin admirably late. G.: Admirably? H.: If one wants to know how a civilised adult gets from what is said to what is meant, yes. But Vico wants to know how there came to be such adults, such sayings, and such available meanings. G.: That is fair. I look at the move in play; he looks at the game before it is recognisably a game. H.: Better: before it is recognisably a language in your sense. He is interested in the poetic and imaginative forms that make later reason possible. G.: Hampshire, you make him sound almost anti-rational. H.: Not anti-rational. Anti-thin. There is a difference, though your tribe often pretends not to notice it. G.: We notice it whenever it becomes inconvenient. H.: Precisely. Vico is inconvenient because he insists that thought grows out of images, institutions, rites, and historical pressures rather than from abstract reason contemplating its own cleanliness. G.: I would not say reason is clean. Only that at some point it becomes possible to ask what a speaker means by uttering such-and-such. H.: Yes, and Vico would ask what had to happen historically for such a question to become available at all. G.: Then one might say that I analyse the micro-mechanics of uptake, whereas Vico is concerned with the macro-history of intelligibility. H.: That is not bad. Though “macro-history” sounds as if he were writing graphs. He is not. He is tracing the movement from imaginative universals to reflective distinctions. G.: And you like that because you think philosophers of our generation neglected the imagination. H.: Not only neglected it. They often treated it as either ornament or contamination. Vico sees it as constitutive. G.: You have written that sort of thing yourself. H.: I have tried to. Primitive thought, metaphor, unconscious structure, the persistence of images in deliberate reasoning. Those matters interested me more than a philosophy of history dressed up as historical method. G.: Ah. Then we have reached Collingwood. H.: Inevitably. G.: You do him an injustice, perhaps. H.: Perhaps. But Collingwood took from Vico what Vico gave only in part. He made him chiefly the father of the philosophy of history, whereas I think the more unsettling thing in Vico is what he sees about language and the mind. G.: Meaning that men understand what they themselves have made. H.: Verum factum, yes. But one must not turn that into a slogan for historians alone. It matters because the mind understands its products differently from how it understands nature. Language, law, myth, social order, even the image of the self, these are humanly made and therefore require an interpretive intelligence proper to made things. G.: Whereas a stone may be catalogued without being reimagined. H.: Exactly. Human institutions cannot be grasped from outside as if they were pebbles. One must enter the forms of imagination that made them. G.: Which is why you were drawn to Vico through Joyce as well. H.: Joyce was one route, yes. Finnegans Wake is almost a laboratory for Vichian recurrence: language returning to its own buried origins, rational syntax dissolving into older pressures of pun, myth, etymology, and dream. G.: You sound as though you enjoyed it more than you suffered it. H.: I suffered it in the proper way. But Joyce at least taught some of us that the philosophy of language could not forever remain a matter of purified examples and gentlemanly stipulations. G.: You mean my examples of butlers and bandaged legs will not do? H.: They will do very nicely once the world in which butlers and legs are recognisably available has been conceded. Vico is interested in the prehistory of that concession. G.: Then he is less a philosopher of conversation than of the possibility of shareable meanings. H.: Precisely. He asks how a civilisation comes to have a common world of signs, institutions, metaphors, and recognisable reasons. G.: That is not wholly alien to me, you know. H.: No. You have always been more hospitable than your doctrinaire admirers. G.: Hampshire, that is almost affectionate. H.: Do not become sentimental. I merely mean that you never reduced meaning to syntax or to formal entailment. G.: Quite right. I always required intention, recognition, and the rational route from the one to the other. H.: Yes. And Vico asks what historical sediment must already exist if such routes are to be traversable by anyone at all. G.: So if I say that a hearer calculates an implicature, Vico would ask what cultural and imaginative background makes that calculation seem natural. H.: Exactly. Relevance, reasonableness, what counts as apt, what counts as too much or too little, all these are not delivered by logic alone. They are historically formed. G.: That will alarm those who prefer maxims to have descended from Sinai. H.: Then let them be alarmed. Philosophical tidiness is often an attempt to forget origins. G.: You speak now like an anti-rationalist. H.: I am anti-rationalist only in the sense that I resist the vanity of reason when it pretends to have no history, no dependence upon desire, image, conflict, and social inheritance. G.: Which is also what interested our generation. H.: Yes, and this is where Collingwood’s admirers sometimes miss the point. They take the philosophy of history, but without enough notice to the philosophy of mind that was really at issue for us. G.: Because for men born in 1913 and 1914, history was not merely something to be reconstructed; it was something that had broken through the walls. H.: Exactly. We did not need to be persuaded that historical forces matter. The question was what sort of mind could live through conflict, ideology, loyalty, fantasy, and self-deception without imagining itself transparent. G.: That is more psycho-logical than historical. H.: It is both, but the priority is with the mind in history, not with history in the abstract. Vico is useful because he sees that imagination is not the enemy of reason but its condition. G.: That is a sentence I can almost endorse without reserve. H.: Almost? G.: I should want to say not that imagination is always the condition of reason, but that some forms of reasoning presuppose historically acquired imaginative capacities and shared symbolic resources. H.: That is your way of making the sentence acceptable to the Board of Lit. Hum. G.: A body to which I no longer answer. H.: Which improves your style. G.: Hampshire, you are unjustly kind today. H.: Only because Vico encourages largeness of temper. One cannot read him profitably in a narrow mood. G.: Then tell me what most interests you in his account of language. H.: The claim that early language is not primarily descriptive in the later sense. It is poetic, bodily, socially condensed. Words are bound up with institutions, with shared fears, with the need to classify the world in images before concepts are available. G.: So metaphor comes first. H.: In an important sense, yes. Metaphor is not a decorative afterthought. It is one of the original instruments by which human beings make a world graspable. G.: That will trouble those who like literal meaning as a primary deposit. H.: They deserve to be troubled. The literal is often a later domestication of what was once imaginatively charged. G.: Then perhaps even my own distinction between what is said and what is implicated has a Vichian prehistory. H.: Of course it does. You analyse the fine surface of a mature practice. Vico reminds you that the surface was laid down over centuries of imaginative and institutional labour. G.: You are making me more historicist than I had planned to be. H.: I should not dream of making you a historicist. Only less forgetful. G.: That is a better compliment. And what of Naples? H.: Naples matters because Vico is formed not in an Oxford of tutorials and common rooms but in a civic university of rhetoric, law, and public culture. He is not a cloistered metaphysician; he is a professor of rhetoric with jurisprudence in his bones. G.: Which means that language for him is always near law, institution, and civic life. H.: Exactly. There is no pure philosophy of language detached from how a people orders itself. G.: That sounds closer to your political concerns than to mine. H.: It is. I am interested in what language discloses about conflict, selfhood, motive, responsibility. Vico makes all that thinkable without reducing it to sociology. G.: Because he still thinks forms of life have intelligible structure. H.: Yes. He is not a mere historicist relativist. He believes that what men have made can be understood because it has a form, though not one reducible to natural science. G.: Which is why he distinguishes the human sciences from the natural. H.: In effect, yes. Not with later jargon, but with greater force. Men understand civil institutions because they are their own products in a way that stars and stones are not. G.: That is where Collingwood took him up. H.: Yes, and not wrongly. Only too tidily. G.: Tidy minds irritate you more than obscure ones. H.: They do, because tidy minds often mistake arrangement for discovery. G.: I am tempted to quote your own writings at you. H.: Resist it. Self-quotation is a late vice. G.: You say that as though Vico had been spared it. H.: He was spared many modern humiliations. G.: Not all. He still had chairs, competitions, disappointed ambitions, family burdens, and Neapolitan weather. H.: Yes, which is why he remains recognisably human. One can admire the great dead best when one refuses to embalm their frustrations. G.: That is very nearly one of my own methodological slogans. H.: It should be. We should treat those who were great and are dead as if they were great and living. G.: Thank you for handing me my line back improved. H.: I have always improved you in small quantities. G.: Very small ones. Now tell me this: does Vico interest you because he offers a philosophy of origins, or because he offers a criticism of present rationalism? H.: The second through the first. He is not merely a storyteller about beginnings. He is diagnostically useful against the delusion that reflective consciousness is self-sufficient. G.: Which aligns him with some modern theories of the unconscious. H.: Yes, though one must not claim him crudely as a proto-Freudian. What matters is that he sees the mind as layered, culturally formed, and only partially transparent to itself. G.: Then he belongs with those who make self-knowledge difficult. H.: Entirely. And that is why he mattered to me more than to many Oxford analysts. He does not ask only what a concept is; he asks what sort of creature had to exist before such a concept could be lived. G.: Again, that is a larger anthropology than most of us were trained to permit. H.: Because most of you were trained to answer questions only after removing their blood. G.: Hampshire, that is almost a manifesto. H.: It is only a complaint. G.: A fertile one. Do you think Vico can still correct us? H.: Certainly. Every time philosophers speak as though language were simply there, as though norms of reason floated free of custom and imagination, as though history were only a sequence of examples rather than a maker of categories, Vico returns. G.: Croce would have liked that. The later history of thought as a ricorso of Vichian ideas. H.: Croce had the large gesture right, though he made it too clean in places. G.: Whitehead did the same for Plato. H.: Yes, and both gestures are partly true and partly flattering to their authors. G.: Then Vico is a recurring corrector rather than a school-founder. H.: That is well said. There is no formal Vichian school in Oxford, but there is an Oxford tradition of finding him useful against reductionism. G.: Yourself, Berlin, Williams at the edge, perhaps Collingwood earlier. H.: Yes, though each took something different. Berlin loved pluralism and imagination. Collingwood loved historical mind. I loved what Vico implied about motive, expression, and the layered structure of thought. G.: And I, if I may belatedly join, would take from him the historical preconditions of common ground. H.: That would be a sensible borrowing. G.: Sensible enough to disappoint those who want dramatic conversions. H.: Let them be disappointed. Philosophy improves when disappointments are exact. G.: Then how would you state the relation between Vico and modern philosophy of mind? H.: He is not a philosopher of mind in the later analytical sense, but he sees something decisive: that the mind cannot be known in abstraction from the symbolic and institutional forms it has itself generated. G.: So thought is externalised before it is introspected. H.: Very often, yes. We know what kind of mind we are by seeing what worlds we have made: laws, myths, cities, rituals, epics, insults, prayers. G.: You are almost theological again. H.: Only anthropological. Prayer is a human act before it is a metaphysical answer. G.: That too would disturb some readers. H.: Good. Philosophy is not a department of reassurance. G.: Speak for yourself. Some of us were paid partly to reassure. H.: You were paid to examine. The reassurance was extra. G.: Fair. Now, what would you say to those who insist Vico is too baroque, too encyclopedic, too rhetorically overgrown for serious use? H.: I would say that their complaint proves his necessity. They have become so accustomed to cleanly partitioned questions that a mind moving among law, language, myth, rhetoric, and history seems excessive. The excess is in the world, not in Vico. G.: That is very much your own independence of mind speaking. H.: I hope so. One should distrust any philosophy that never forces one to enlarge one’s map. G.: Then perhaps this is why I admired your reading of him, even when I was not wholly persuaded. H.: Because I refused to treat him merely as an ancestor to a discipline already certified. G.: Exactly. You treated him as a live pressure upon our own categories. H.: As he ought to be treated. The dead are useful only when they continue to make us less complacent. G.: Again, a line I should like to steal. H.: You may borrow it if you acknowledge the riding from which it came. G.: Yorkshire? H.: No, impatience. G.: Better still. Then tell me, finally, what one sentence of Vico you would wish our contemporaries to hear. H.: Not a sentence, but an orientation: that men can understand what they have made only if they grasp the imaginative forms through which it was made, and that these forms survive in language long after their makers have forgotten them. G.: That is excellent. And the corresponding Gricean sentence would be? H.: That a hearer understands what is meant not only by decoding what is said, but by recognising the rational intention that makes saying it there and then significant. G.: Then between us we have the history and the occasion. H.: Or, if you prefer, you have the occasion and Vico has the history. I merely refuse to let either be forgotten. G.: Which is why I have always liked your mind, even when it disapproved of my examples. H.: Your examples deserved disapproval only when they became too bloodless. G.: And Vico restores the blood. H.: Or at least the Naples. G.: Dry enough? H.: Sufficiently Neapolitan, with one Yorkshire cloud.Vico, Gian Battista (1693). Affeti di un disperato. Napoli: Carafa.  

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vieri.’ Francesco de’Vieri – verino primo. Compared institutionally, Grice and Verino primo belong to analogous worlds only at a high level of abstraction: both are academic philosophers attached to teaching institutions, but the structures are very different. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense. “Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s” means a college office with tutorials, student responsibility, and membership in the governing life of the college. “CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford” means a university-wide appointment in the faculty structure. So Grice combines the intimate tutorial culture of the college with the public obligations of the University. Francesco de’ Vieri, detto Verino primo, belongs to the Renaissance Tuscan university-and-academy world. He was trained at Pisa, taught first at Prato and then in the Studio of Pisa, later returning to Florence and becoming a prominent philosophical presence there; he also lectured in the Accademia Fiorentina. So he was not a college fellow in the Oxford sense at all, but a university teacher and academy lecturer moving between the Studio and the civic-literary institution of the Florentine academy. That gives you the clean institutional contrast. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university role. Verino primo was a Renaissance professor of logic and philosophy in the Tuscan Studio system, with a parallel role in the Accademia Fiorentina. Grice’s world is collegiate, tutorial, and faculty-based. Verino primo’s is university-and-academy based, public, and civic-humanist. That institutional difference fits the philosophical comparison rather well. Grice’s work grows out of tutorial exchange, objection, and the fine-grained analysis of what a speaker means in a live conversational setting. Verino primo’s importance lies less in a micro-theory of conversational inference than in his role in widening philosophical discourse: teaching philosophy across university and academy, and helping make philosophical reflection publicly shareable through vernacular exposition. This is why your phrase “metafisica in volgare” is genuinely useful for him, though it should remain a comparative gloss rather than a title. With Verino primo, the crucial move is not from explicit statement to implicature in a Gricean sense, but from restricted learned discourse to a broader public of uptake. He changes the audience and therefore changes the common ground on which philosophical understanding can happen. So if you want the sharpest comparison, I would put it this way. Grice explains how one utterance comes to mean more than it says for a hearer capable of rational inference. Verino primo helps create an institutional and linguistic space in which more people can become such hearers at all, by moving philosophical discourse into academy culture and, in the surviving lectures, into the vernacular. The biographical basics are now firm enough to support that. Verino primo was born in Florence in 1474 and died in 1541. He studied at Pisa. He was already teaching in 1496–97 at Prato, before or while taking his doctoral degrees in 1497. He then held chairs in logic and philosophy, taught later at Pisa after the Studio reopened, and from 1531–32 taught philosophy in Florence until his death. The only surviving works securely attached to him are the three vernacular Dante lectures delivered at the Accademia Fiorentina in 1541. And there is one especially useful bibliographical distinction, which matters for how you phrase your entry. The earliest datable intellectual production is not a book but the teaching activity: Francesco de’ Vieri (Verino primo). 1496–1497. Lectura festiva di arti, Prato. Earliest securely datable teaching activity; no surviving text known. The earliest surviving textual witness is much later: the three vernacular Dante lectures of 1541. So the shortest clean comparison would be: H. P. Grice was an Oxford don in the strict collegiate sense, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Francesco de’ Vieri, detto Verino primo, by contrast, belongs to the Renaissance world of the Studio of Pisa and the Accademia Fiorentina: a professor of logic and philosophy, and an academy lecturer who helped make philosophical discourse publicly shareable in Florence. Institutionally, Grice belongs to the tutorial-collegiate world; Verino primo to the university-and-academy world. Philosophically, the contrast is equally clear: Grice analyses how meaning is rationally recoverable in a particular conversational exchange, whereas Verino primo exemplifies the broader project of widening the public conditions under which philosophical discourse can be understood at all. And if you want the neatest one-line dossier formula, I would suggest: Vieri, Francesco de’ (Verino primo). 1496–1497. Lectura festiva di arti, Prato. Earliest securely datable teaching activity; no surviving text known. If you like, I can now compress all this into one polished paragraph in your preferred style, or give you a very short headnote followed by a two-line chronology.Yes. If by “Vierino primo” you mean Francesco de’ Vieri, detto Verino primo, the basics are now fairly clear. He is the earlier Francesco de’ Vieri, born in Florence on 29 July 1474 and dead in 1541, and he is the grandfather of the later Francesco de’ Vieri, “Verino secondo.” The standard modern biographical source places Verino primo’s formation at the Studio pisano and traces a long teaching career across Pisa, Prato, and Florence. Francesco de’ Vieri, called Verino primo, was born in Florence in 1474 and died in 1541; he was trained at Pisa and became a long-serving university teacher of logic and philosophy. [treccani.it] Institutionally, he belongs to the university-and-academy world of early sixteenth-century Tuscany, not to the later, more self-conscious Platonising milieu of Verino secondo. He began teaching even before taking the doctorate; in 1496–97 he was already lecturing at Prato, where the Studio had temporarily moved after Pisa’s rebellion against Florentine rule. He took his doctoral degrees in the same year and on 14 October 1497 was appointed professor at the Studio, then transferred to Florence because of plague. He held the chair of logica straordinaria from 1497 to 1499, logica ordinaria from 1499 to 1501, and filosofia straordinaria from 1501 to 1503. The fullest modern biography says that Francesco de’ Vieri taught at Prato before graduating, took his doctorate in 1497, and then successively held chairs in extraordinary logic, ordinary logic, and extraordinary philosophy. [treccani.it] After the Studio reopened stably at Pisa in 1515, he is said to have lectured on Aristotle’s Physics there until 1525. When teaching was interrupted by plague in 1526, he moved back to Florence. We next find him securely in 1531–32, when Duke Alessandro personally called him to the chair of philosophy in the Florentine Studio, despite his earlier public role under the republican regime. From then until his death in 1541 he taught philosophy in Florence and gathered a substantial following. The same source reports that Francesco de’ Vieri lectured on Aristotelian physics at Pisa from 1515 to 1525, then resumed high-profile philosophical teaching in Florence from 1531–32 until his death. [treccani.it] As for his intellectual profile, the key point is that he seems to have aimed at a mediation between Aristotelian inheritance and neoplatonic pressures. That is the exact place where he becomes interesting for your dossier. He is not simply a scholastic Aristotelian, and not simply a Ficinian Platonist either; he is a transitional Florentine university philosopher trying to negotiate between the lizio and the academy. The Treccani account explicitly characterises Francesco de’ Vieri’s teaching as an attempt to mediate between Aristotelian inheritance and neoplatonic demands. [treccani.it] Now the crucial point for your earlier notes: the material about the three Dante lectures belongs here, to Verino primo, not to Verino secondo. These are the only surviving works securely attached to him in the biographical notice. They were delivered at the Accademia Fiorentina in 1541 and survive through manuscript transmission and later print. The first lecture treats love through lines of the Purgatorio; the second, taking its cue from the opening of the Paradiso, reflects on the love that governs the world; the third addresses the philosophical problems generated by the first two. The same source says that the only surviving works of Francesco de’ Vieri are the three Dante lectures given at the Accademia Fiorentina in 1541, moving from Dantean exegesis toward fully philosophical reflection on love and cosmological order. [treccani.it] This also explains why “metaphysics in the vernacular” is a good shorthand for him, though one should phrase it cautiously. The lectures were in volgare and were meant to make difficult content available to a wider public. The modern notice says explicitly that the vernacular form answered the need to make such content accessible to a broad audience, and it even reports, through Gelli, that Verino exposed metaphysics in the vernacular. The Treccani biography of Francesco de’ Vieri emphasises that his lectures were in the vernacular to make their contents accessible to a broad public, and it links him with the project of expounding metaphysics in volgare. [treccani.it] So if you want the shortest clean headnote for “Vierino primo,” I would give you this: Francesco de’ Vieri, called Verino primo, was a Florentine philosopher born in 1474 and dead in 1541, trained at Pisa and active as professor of logic and philosophy at Prato, Pisa, and Florence. He became a central intellectual reference point for Florentine elites in a period of political and cultural transition, and his teaching appears to have sought a mediation between Aristotelian inheritance and neoplatonic impulses. The only surviving works securely associated with him are three vernacular lectures on Dante delivered at the Accademia Fiorentina in 1541, where literary commentary opens into philosophical reflection on love, cosmological order, and the public communication of metaphysics. [treccani.it] And the practical warning is this: if you want Dante lectures, vernacular metaphysics, and academy culture, you want Verino primo. If you want Pisa, Platonism, printed vernacular philosophical treatises, and the anti-Borro controversies, you want Verino secondo. If you like, I can now give you a tighter two-sentence version in your own style, or a slightly fuller paragraph that explicitly contrasts Verino primo with Verino secondo. Yes. The earliest datable composition we can presently assign to Verino primo is not a book, and not one of the surviving Dante lectures, but his teaching activity in the academic year 1496–97. The best biographical source says explicitly that Francesco de’ Vieri, Verino primo, began teaching before he took his doctorate, and that in the academic year 1496–97 he held the lettura festiva di arti at Prato, where the Studio had temporarily moved. That is the earliest securely datable intellectual production now attested for him. The standard modern biography states that, before taking his doctorate, was already teaching in the academic year 1496–97, when he held the lettura festiva di arti at Prato. [treccani.it] So if your criterion is earliest datable composition in the broad sense of earliest datable philosophical or scholarly performance, the answer is: 1496–97, the Prato lectures. If your criterion is earliest surviving composition, the answer changes: the only surviving works securely attached to him are the three Dante lectures delivered at the Accademia Fiorentina in 1541. The same biographical source says that the only extant works of  are the three Dante lectures given at the Accademia Fiorentina in 1541. [treccani.it] So the distinction is: earliest datable composition or intellectual production: the teaching/lecturing activity of 1496–97 at Prato; earliest surviving text: the three vernacular Dante lectures of 1541. And no, not “no laurea.” In fact, the source is explicit that in that same year, 1496–97, he obtained the gradi dottorali. That means he did earn doctoral degrees, and indeed his earliest datable teaching precedes or coincides with the doctorate rather than replacing it. The standard biography says that in the same year in which he taught at Prato,  obtained the doctoral degrees and on 14 October 1497 was appointed professor of the Studio. [treccani.it] So the clean formulation would be: Verino primo’s earliest securely datable intellectual activity is his teaching at Prato in the academic year 1496–97, before or while taking his doctoral degrees. If one asks instead for the earliest surviving text, the answer is much later: the three Dante lectures delivered at the Accademia Fiorentina in 1541. And no, one should not say “no laurea”: the source explicitly states that he obtained the gradi dottorali in 1497. [treccani.it] If you want, I can now compress that into one tight sentence for your entry, or give you a two-line chronology for Verino primo: 1474 born; 1496–97 earliest datable teaching at Prato; 1497 doctorate and Studio appointment; 1541 surviving Dante lectures; 1541 death. Grice: Caro Verino primo, a Oxford discutiamo molto, ma voi fiorentini avete il merito raro di far sembrare la metafisica quasi una conversazione da passeggio. Verino primo: Caro Grice, a Firenze diciamo che anche l’idea più alta deve saper camminare in volgare, altrimenti resta chiusa in biblioteca a parlare da sola. Grice: Allora siamo colleghi nel medesimo mestiere, perché anch’io sospetto sempre che una verità che non sa conversare finisca per diventare soltanto vanità ben vestita. Verino primo: E io sospetto, caro Grice, che una buona conversazione filosofica valga quanto una lezione intera, con il vantaggio che a volte fa sorridere persino i platonici.Vieri, Francesco de’ (Verino primo). 1496–1497. Lectura festiva di arti, Prato.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vieri: la ragione conversazionale della filiale fiorentina dell’accademia, e la metafisica in volgare! Love, accademia, dialettica fiorentina, Grice on Athenian Dialectic, and Oxonian Dialectic. Florentine Dialectic. Note su La filosofia naturale. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Francesco de’Vieri (Firenze, Toscana). Institutionally, Grice and Francesco de’ Vieri are not comparable in the same Oxford format, but they are much closer than some of the other pairings because both are recognisably academic philosophers shaped by teaching institutions. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense. “Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s” places him inside the collegiate tutorial system; “CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford” places him in the wider faculty structure. So Grice combines the intimate tutorial culture of the college with the public obligations of a university lecturer. Francesco de’ Vieri belongs to the Renaissance Italian university-and-academy world, not to a college-fellowship world. And here the first correction is important: the figure your passage is describing is not the earlier Francesco de’ Vieri, usually called Verino primo, but the later Francesco de’ Vieri, called Verino secondo, born in Florence in 1524 and dead in 1591. The best modern reference works identify, also known as Verino secondo, as a Florentine nobleman who taught logic and then philosophy at Pisa from 1553 or 1559 onward and was active in the Accademia Fiorentina. [it.wikipedia.org] [it.wikipedia.org], [accademici...crusca.org], [link.springer.com], [cambridge.org] So the clean institutional comparison is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university role., by contrast, was a Renaissance professor in the Studio of Pisa and an academy lecturer in Florence, moving between university teaching and the public-cultural world of the Accademia Fiorentina rather than between college tutorials and faculty lectures. [it.wikipedia.org] [it.wikipedia.org], [link.springer.com], [cambridge.org], [academic.oup.com] That institutional difference matches your philosophical contrast rather well. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: how a hearer infers what a speaker means by recognising intentions under cooperative norms. Vieri works at a macro-level of public philosophical culture: changing the language of philosophy from Latin to volgare in order to widen the community of uptake, making metaphysical and ethical discourse available to a broader Florentine audience. That is why your “metafisica in volgare” point is good, but it needs one historical adjustment. The sources do strongly confirm that the Florentine Academy promoted the vernacular for philosophy and that Vieri’s lectures and many of his printed works were in Italian, aimed at wider accessibility. The Cambridge and Springer summaries explicitly note that  delivered many Academy lectures in the vernacular and that the Accademia Fiorentina promoted vernacular philosophy to make learning more accessible. [cambridge.org] [cambridge.org], [link.springer.com] So if you want the sharpest formulation, it is this. Grice analyses the inferential micro-logic by which one utterance comes to mean more than it literally says. Vieri helps construct an institutional and linguistic setting in which philosophy itself can be publicly shared, by shifting discourse into Italian and by making academy lectures a vehicle of widened rational uptake. In short: Grice explains how meaning travels within a conversation. Vieri helps redesign who can join the conversation in the first place. A few corrections are needed in your draft. First, the bibliographic tail “Vieri, Francesco de’ (1586). La filosofia naturale. Firenze: Giunti.” is not secure as written. What is securely attested for 1586 is the Latin work Liber in quo a calumnijs detractorum philosophia defenditur, & eius praestantia demonstratur, printed in Rome by Giovanni Angelo Ruffinelli. The 1586 work by  that is clearly attested is the Latin, printed in Rome, not a Giunti book titled La filosofia naturale. [it.wikipedia.org] [archive.org] [archive.org], [it.wikipedia.org] Second, if you want a vernacular bibliographic hook more suited to your comparison, the better choices are his academy lectures and vernacular discorsi, not a doubtful “La filosofia naturale.” The vernacular bibliography for  includes works such as the 1568 Discorso del soggetto, the 1572 Trattato delle metheore, the 1588 Ragionamento de l’eccellenze, and various Lezzioni d’amore and academy lectures. [vari.warwick.ac.uk] [vari.warwick.ac.uk], [it.wikipedia.org], [link.springer.com] Third, your passage about the three Dante lectures really belongs, not to Verino secondo, but to the earlier Verino primo according to the Treccani notice you seem to be echoing. The exact wording about the three lezioni dantesche and the mediation between Aristotelian and neoplatonic inheritances is in the biography of, the earlier Francesco de’ Vieri, not the later one. So the selected passage in your draft appears to have conflated the two men. The specific Treccani passage about the three Dante lectures at the Accademia Fiorentina belongs to, not to Verino secondo. [treccani.it] So the safest route is: either keep the later Francesco de’ Vieri, Verino secondo, and foreground Pisa, the Accademia Fiorentina, vernacular philosophical writings, and the Platonist-Aristotelian mediation; or switch deliberately to the earlier Verino primo if you want the Dante-lecture material exactly as phrased in your selection. My short answer to your opening question, then, is this: H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford don, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford, combining tutorials with faculty lecturing., by contrast, belongs to the Renaissance world of the Studio of Pisa and the Accademia Fiorentina: a professor of logic and philosophy, and an academy lecturer who helped bring philosophical discourse into the vernacular. Institutionally, Grice belongs to the collegiate tutorial world; Vieri to the university-and-academy world. Philosophically, the contrast is equally clear: Grice analyses how meaning is rationally recoverable in a particular exchange, whereas  exemplifies the broader project of making philosophical discourse publicly shareable by changing its language, audience, and institutional form. [it.wikipedia.org] [cambridge.org] [it.wikipedia.org], [accademici...crusca.org], [link.springer.com], [cambridge.org], [academic.oup.com] If you want, I can now do one of two things in chat only. I can give you a corrected one-paragraph entry on Francesco de’ Vieri, Verino secondo. Or I can separate clearly Verino primo from Verino secondo, so you can decide which of the two you really want in your dossier.V. introduce la ragione conversazionale nella filiale fiorentina dell’accademia, e la metafisica in volgare!” Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning treats understanding as an inferential achievement: a speaker means something by producing an utterance with intentions that are meant to be recognized, and hearers recover what is meant by reasoning under cooperative constraints (what is said plus what is implicated). Francesco de’ Vieri (“il Verino”), as the passage suggests and as biographical scholarship confirms, works at a different but compatible level: he brings philosophizing into the Florentine academy culture and into the vernacular, aiming to make metaphysical and ethical reflection publicly shareable (for example, through vernacular lectures and commentaries connected with the Accademia Fiorentina’s mission of disseminating learning beyond Latin specialists). In Gricean terms, Vieri’s move “into the volgare” is not just a linguistic switch but a deliberate reshaping of common ground: by changing the language and the audience, he changes what premises can be presumed, what counts as a reasonable inference, and how dialectic can function as a cooperative enterprise rather than as scholastic display. Where Grice analyzes the micro-logic by which a single conversational move carries explicit content plus implicatures, Vieri exemplifies a macro-pragmatic project: designing an institutional setting (academy lecture, public commentary) in which rational uptake is widened—so that the same Gricean mechanisms of intention-recognition and inference can operate for a broader community, with “dialectic” and “sweetness in conversing” serving as norms for making meaning accessible, not merely correct. Love, accademia, dialettica fiorentina, Grice on Athenian Dialectic, and Oxonian Dialectic. Florentine Dialectic. Grice: “Essential Italian philosopher.” Studia a Pisa, dove anche insegna. Divenne un punto di riferimento per l’élite intellettuale fiorentina. Il suo magistero è improntato al tentativo di individuare una mediazione tra l’eredità del lizio e l’istanza accademica, come si evince dalle uniche sue opere pervenuteci, ossia le lezioni su ALIGHIERI. La prima verte sull’AMORE a partire dal commento ai versi del Purgatorio. Durante la seconda, traendo spunto dall’incipit del Paradiso, V. si concentra sull’amore che governa il mondo. La terza è dedicata alla disamina dei problemi filosofici scaturiti dai temi affrontati nelle due lezioni precedenti. Il testo delle letture, trasmesso dal manoscritto, è stampato da DONI nelle Lettioni d’academici fiorentini sopra ALIGHIERI. In volgare, le tre lezioni di V. sono testimonianza dell’esigenza di renderne fruibili i contenuti a un pubblico ampio. La medesima esigenza che, stando al racconto di GELLI induce V. a esporre in volgare la metafisica. I versi d’ALIGHIERI  danno l’abbrivio per riflessioni squisitamente filosofiche, secondo un modello di commento che poco ha a che vedere con quello erudito di stampo umanistico e che culmina nella definizione dell’amore come desiderio di generare nel bello. Si tratta di un modo innovativo di confrontarsi con i testi che è destinato a fare scuola, degl’occhi si può prendere fpedito argomento del suo bell'animo dal sospirare similmente con soavità, si conosce un’animo appassionato ma con certa moderanza come auuicne in chi modera gl’affetti col freno e colla legge della RETTA RAGIONE. Le grazie finalmente della bocca Tono il dolce parlare che ci dinota una moderanza nell’appetito iralabile che ci ìùole pella bellezza o per qualche bene che è  m noi più che in altri inluperbire  ed il dolce riio dolcezza e piacevolezza nel CONVERSARE. Pico, accademia, la dialettica fiorentina.  Grice: Maestro Vieri, trovo affascinante come lei abbia portato la metafisica tra le mani del popolo, in volgare, come se volesse far respirare la filosofia all’aria della Toscana. Secondo lei, è l’amore la chiave che apre le porte del sapere?  Vieri: Caro Grice, a Firenze diciamo che “le cose belle si dicono col cuore semplice”. Credo fermamente che l’amore sia il motore della conoscenza: è desiderio di generare nel bello, come insegna Dante. Solo chi ama può davvero comprendere e trasmettere il sapere.  Grice: E nella dialettica fiorentina, come si uniscono ragione e sentimento? L'accademia, a suo avviso, può davvero mediare tra l’eredità del lizio e l’istanza moderna?  Vieri: La dialettica, Grice, è arte del dialogo e del confronto: come dice il proverbio, “dal confronto nasce la luce”. L’accademia fiorentina cerca proprio questo, una mediazione tra tradizione e innovazione, tra ragione e affetto, perché solo così la filosofia può parlare davvero agli uomini e alle donne del nostro tempo. Vieri, Francesco de’ (1586). La filosofia naturale. Firenze: Giunti.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vigellio: la ragione conversazionale al portico romano. Note su De porticu romana. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Marco Vigellio (Roma): Compared institutionally, Grice and “Vigellio” are not really comparable in the same academic register at all. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense. “Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s” means a college office with tutorials, students, and membership in the governing life of the college. “CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford” means a university-wide faculty appointment. So Grice occupies the characteristic dual Oxford role: college tutor and university lecturer. Marcus Vigellius belongs to a wholly different world. He is not a don, not a fellow, not a university lecturer, and not even securely a “Roman professor” of any sort. What the evidence supports is much thinner and much older: he was a Stoic philosopher flourishing around the later second century BC, a friend and pupil of Panaetius, and someone who lived with him. Cicero also names him as connected to Lucius Licinius Crassus. That is not an institutional appointment; it is membership in an elite philosophical and rhetorical milieu. The best direct summary says that Marcus Vigellius was a Stoic philosopher, friend and pupil of Panaetius, with whom he lived, and that Cicero mentions him in relation to Lucius Licinius Crassus. [en.wikipedia.org], [attalus.org], [hieronymus.us.com] So the clean institutional comparison is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university role. Marcus Vigellius, by contrast, was a Stoic associate in the Roman reception of Panaetius, embedded in aristocratic-philosophical company rather than in a formal university structure. [en.wikipedia.org], [attalus.org] That means your comparison has to be intellectual rather than institutional. Intellectually, the contrast is promising. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: how a hearer recognises intention and recovers what is meant beyond what is said. Marcus Vigellius, if taken as part of the Panaetius circle, belongs to a Stoic environment where conversation is not analysed as implicature but practiced as ethical formation, deliberation, and the shaping of judgement in elite Roman life. The ancient evidence for Panaetius strongly links him to Roman statesmen, companionship, and practical philosophical influence rather than to scholastic theory. [attalus.org], [jstor.org] So if you want the sharpest formulation, it is this. Grice explains how one particular utterance becomes intelligible as meaning something to someone. Vigellius, in the Panaetius setting, exemplifies conversation as a way of living and reasoning together, where the point is the formation of stable judgement rather than the philosophical analysis of speaker-meaning. [en.wikipedia.org], [attalus.org] A few factual cautions are necessary. First, I would not say “Marco Vigellio (Roma)” with confidence. The evidence I can verify does not securely give Rome as birthplace, and the standard form is Marcus Vigellius, not “Marco Vigellio.” [en.wikipedia.org] Second, I cannot confirm any work called De Porticu Romana, nor any bibliographic line such as “Vigellio, Marco (a.u.c. DCXX). De Porticu Romana. Roma.” Nothing in the evidence I found supports an extant work by him. In fact, the standard summary is that almost nothing about him survives beyond those references. The current evidence supports Marcus Vigellius as a sparsely attested Stoic figure, not as an author with a surviving treatise. [en.wikipedia.org], [attalus.org] Third, your etymological material on the gens Vigellia is too speculative for a scholarly headnote unless marked as conjectural. I would leave it out. So the short answer is: H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford philosopher with a dual institutional role, college tutor and university lecturer. Marcus Vigellius, by contrast, was an ancient Stoic associate of Panaetius, living in the world of Roman aristocratic-philosophical companionship rather than in any university system. Institutionally they are not comparable. Intellectually, however, the contrast is illuminating: Grice analyses the inferential micro-mechanics of conversational meaning, whereas Vigellius stands for a Stoic macro-practice in which conversation forms judgement, character, and public reason. [en.wikipedia.org], [attalus.org], [jstor.org] And one final correction in your own idiom: if you want to keep “Portico romano,” use it as a comparative image, not as a title or text attributed to him. That is the safer move. If you want, I can now give you a compact one-paragraph entry in your preferred style, but with the name normalised to Marcus Vigellius and the fictive bibliographic tail removed.la ragione conversazionale al PORTICO romano. Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning treats understanding as a rational achievement: the hearer recovers what is meant by recognizing intentions and inferring, under cooperative constraints, what goes beyond the literal wording. Read against that, “Vigellius at the Roman Stoa” (Marcus Vigellius, the Stoic associated with Panaetius and mentioned by Cicero as living with him) represents a different orientation: conversational reason as the disciplined public practice of the Portico, where what matters is less the calculus of implicature and more the ethical-political shaping of judgement in dialogue (the Roman uptake of Stoic doctrine within elite rhetorical culture). In Gricean terms, the Portico’s exchanges can be described as systematically managing hearers’ inferences—training what counts as a good reason to assent—yet the Portico’s normativity is primarily ethical (how to live, what to value, how to deliberate), whereas Grice’s normativity is pragmatic-inferential (how a contribution becomes intelligible as meaning something by being rationally interpretable). So the comparison lands as: Grice supplies a micro-model of rational uptake (intention-recognition and conversational inference), while Vigellius/Panaetius exemplify a macro-model in which conversation is itself an institution for forming rational agents—where “what is meant” is inseparable from the cultivation of stable, publicly defensible commitments. Storia della filosofia romana. Allievo di Panezio, with whom he lives. Noted by CICERONE in De Oratore to have also been a friend of Lucio Licinio CRASSIO, the greatest Roman orator prior to CICERONE. Blits, “The Heart of Rome: Rome’s Political Culture”; The first philosopher in Rome of IL PORTICO is PANEZIO, who joins The Scipionic Circle, lives in SCIPIONE’s home and travels with him on an embassy. Besides SCIPIONE, consul, and censor, at least six  other consuls study under PANEZIO. They include LELIO and L. FURIO, who, along with SCIPIONE and Polibio, hear the three philosophers at Rome; FANNIO; Q. Elio TUBERONE, suffect consul, Q. Mucio SCEVOLA, and Rutilio RUFO. In addition, Spurio Mummio, one of the legates sent to settle Greek affairs, is trained in the doctrine of il portico (Cicero, “Bruto”). V., friend of CRASSIO, consul, is PANEZIO’s friend and pupil, and lives with him -- CICERONE, De oratore --, and Sesto POMPEO, son of the governor of Macedonia, brother of a consul, and uncle of POMPEO maggiore, withdraws from politics in order to devote himself to the philosophy of the Portico -- CICERONE, Bruto, De oratore. Portico. Pupil of Panezio. V.  is a Roman philosopher who identifies himself as belonging to the PORTICO, and known as a close friend and pupil of PANEZIO, with whom he lived. Little information remains regarding his specific family. However, linguistic evidence provides a context:  V. belongs to the gens Vigellia, that achieves some prominence in the Republic. The most well-known member of this gens is Publio V. Saturnino, senator and proconsul of Africa, who presides over the trial of the scillitan martyrs. “V” derives from "vigil," ‘someone who is awake’, and shares its etymology with "vigilance" and the Iname Vigilio. In a Roman context, such a name often emphasises the quality of responsibility, foresight, and keen observation.  Grice goes on to explore V’s connection to CICERONE  and the specific Stoic teachings of his mentor Panezio. GRICEVS: Salve, Vigelli! Dic mihi: cur Romani porticvm suam non pictam fecerunt? VIGELIUS: Salvē, Griceve! Romani probitatem simplicem amabant; picturam superfluum iudicabant. G.: At in Athenis porticvs picta erat—quae sententia de illo consilio Romano? V.: Romani severitatem magis quam decorem colebat; porticvs sine pictura sapientiam ostendebat. Vigellio, Marco (a.u.c. DCXX). De Porticu Romana. Roma

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vigna: la ragione conversazionale: from the dictum to the dictaminum. Note sull’Epistola in curia Friderici II. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Pietro della Vigna (Capua, Campania). Institutionally, H. P. Grice and Pietro della Vigna are not comparable in the narrow academic sense at all. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense: Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s, plus CUF University Lecturer in philosophy. That means a dual role inside a collegiate tutorial system and a university faculty structure. Pietro della Vigna belongs to an entirely different world. He was not a don, not a fellow, not a university lecturer in the Oxford sense, and not even primarily a university teacher after Bologna. He was a jurist trained at Bologna who rose into the imperial chancery of Frederick II, becoming notary, judge, diplomat, prothonotary, and ultimately logothete or chancellor. So the comparison is not between two academic appointments, but between an Oxford philosopher and a medieval chancery intellectual. Standard references identify Pietro della Vigna as a Capuan-born jurist educated at Bologna who became chief minister, logothete, and chancellor to Frederick II. [britannica.com], [en.wikipedia.org] So the clean institutional contrast is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university role. Pietro della Vigna, by contrast, was a jurist-diplomat and imperial chancery master, whose operative institution was the court and administration of Frederick II rather than a tutorial college. [britannica.com], [en.wikipedia.org] That institutional difference actually helps your philosophical comparison. Grice analyses how an utterance in ordinary conversation comes to mean more than it explicitly says, by virtue of intention, recognition, and inferential uptake under cooperative norms. Pietro della Vigna works in a world where discourse is already formalised by office, hierarchy, genre, and legal effect. The ars dictaminis is not “ordinary conversation” but highly regulated written action. In that setting, the point is not merely to say something but to produce the right official uptake: command, legitimation, consolation, warning, juridical force. Britannica explicitly describes Pietro della Vigna as an exponent of the rhetorical ars dictaminis whose style shaped Frederick II’s letters and public documents and, through them, European court rhetoric. [britannica.com] So your dictum to dictamen contrast is very good, once cleaned up. A Gricean version would be: Grice explains the micro-pragmatics of how a hearer gets from a saying to what is meant. Pietro shows the macro-pragmatics of a communicative institution in which that passage is already disciplined by rhetorical-juridical form. In other words: Grice starts with ordinary exchange and asks how rational uptake is possible. Pietro della Vigna starts with official composition and asks how uptake can be guided so tightly that ambiguity is politically minimised and effect is socially maximised. [britannica.com], [digital.co...s.ed.ac.uk] Your dictamen material is also broadly correct, but a few refinements matter. First, the etymological drift from dicere to dictare to dictamen is useful as a conceptual gloss, but for Pietro the key historical point is not the root-history alone. It is that dictamen had become a technical rhetorical art of composition, especially for formal letters. A manuscript description of the Flores Dictaminis identifies it precisely as an ars dictaminis anthology of political and administrative letters, privileges, consolations, and models of composition. [digital.co...s.ed.ac.uk] Second, your note that “dictator” originally means a composer of high-style prose is clever but should be treated cautiously unless you want a rhetorical flourish rather than a historical definition. I would not build the entry on that. Third, your mention of cursus and stilus supremus is in the right area, but the safest verified formulation is simply that Pietro’s prose was famous for its elegant Latin and that his chancery letters became models of high style. Standard references emphasise Pietro della Vigna’s elegant Latin style and the wider influence of Frederick II’s chancery rhetoric. [britannica.com], [de.wikipedia.org] Fourth, the bibliographic line at the end of your note is too specific and probably unsafe. “Vigna, Pietro della (1230). Epistola in curia Friderici II. Napoli.” is not, so far as I can verify, a correct title-page style citation. What we can say securely is this: his letters survive in the Petrus de Vinea / Petri de Vineis letter collections, the classic printed edition is the Basel 1740 edition edited by Johannes Rudolf Iselin, and modern manuscript scholarship treats the Epistolae tradition as a collected corpus rather than as a single 1230 publication. The 1740 Basel edition of the Epistolae under the name Petrus de Vinea remains the classic printed source, reprinted later and used by modern scholarship. [books.google.com], [archive.org], [abebooks.com] So if you want the shortest clean answer to your opening question, it is this. H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford philosopher with a dual institutional role, college tutor and university lecturer. Pietro della Vigna, by contrast, was a medieval jurist-diplomat and chancery stylist formed at Bologna and active at the court of Frederick II. Institutionally they are worlds apart. Intellectually, however, the comparison is illuminating: Grice explains how rational uptake works in ordinary conversation, whereas Pietro della Vigna exemplifies a formal institutional rhetoric in which uptake is engineered through genre, hierarchy, and dictaminal design. [britannica.com], [en.wikipedia.org], [digital.co...s.ed.ac.uk], [books.google.com] And if I phrase it in your own preferred key: Grice moves from utterance to implicature; Pietro moves from dictum to dictamen. If you want, I can now give you one compact paragraph in plain English that you can drop straight into your entry, with the chancery-institutional contrast foregrounded and the unsafe 1230 citation quietly removed.In V. la ragione conversazionale va dal dictum al dictaminum.” Grice’s reason-governed conversational meaning is designed to explain how a hearer rationally recovers what a speaker means by treating an utterance as purposive and constrained by norms of cooperation, so that what is meant can outrun what is explicitly said (via implicature, relevance, and intention-recognition). Pietro della Vigna, by contrast, represents a medieval institutionalization of “conversational reason” in the ars dictaminis: the disciplined transformation of dictum (a saying, the bare content) into dictamen (a crafted, authoritative composition), where meaning is engineered for official uptake through genre constraints, hierarchies, and stylistic technologies such as cursus and the stilus supremus. A Gricean translation of Vigna would say that dictaminal prose deliberately controls the inferential space available to the recipient: the chancellery letter is written so that the addressee has good reason to recognize not merely a proposition but an intended practical upshot (command, threat, reassurance, legitimation) under conditions where “cooperation” is partly replaced by protocol and power. Where Grice starts from ordinary conversational exchange and derives norms that make implicature calculable, Vigna starts from an already-normed communicative institution and perfects the outward form so that the intended reading becomes the only reasonable reading; in that sense, Grice provides the micro-pragmatics of rational uptake, while Vigna exemplifies a macro-pragmatics in which rational uptake is secured by rhetorical-juridical design that moves from saying to officially dictating. A master of the ars dictaminis, the art of formal letter writing, V. is a jurist and diplomat, who serves as the chancellor to Frederick II. Graduated from Bologna,his work is accessible through compilations and repositories. His Epistolae are edited by Iselin. Overviews of his work, including his influence on the stilus supremus, can be found on bBibliographies, and some of his work hosted on heritage sites like Europeana. Sudies, such as V. e la sua eredità, analyse his ars dictaminis. The evolution of  the ‘dictamen,’ the core subject of ars dictaminis, follows a trajectory from simple speech to authoritative composition. During V.’s time, the term represents a sophisticated system of rhythmic prose composition used for official letter writing. The evolution begins with “dicere,” from Indo-European deik-, ‘to show,’ ‘to pronounce solemnly’ Cf. Grice: dictiveness. This root does not indicate it has to be ‘linguistic’ or vocal, much in Grice’s spirit to provide a GENERAL account of communication -- the focus being on the basic act of communication. From ‘dicere’ comes ‘dictare,’ ‘to say often.’ This evolves into: to say words aloud for another person, to write down, or to dictate a term or rule with authority. The noun dictamen is formed by adding the suffix -men indicating result or instrument, and refers to a pronouncement, saying, or rule. The term shifts from the act of speaking to the result of composing. A dictator is not a political tyrant, but a composer of high-style prose. When V. is the chief minister and logothete for Frederick, dictamen is synonymous with a formal composition, and the ars dictaminis the art of composition specifically applied to official correspondence. V. is credited with refining this art into an elegant, rhythmic style, involving the cursus or rhythmic sentence ending, that becomes the standard for the court. V.’s letters, written in the emperor's name, are collected as models of the dictamen. Grice goes on to give examples of the specific rhythmic rules, cursus, V. uses to structure these imperial letters. Grice: Maestro Vigna, la ringrazio di cuore per avermi insegnato la nobile arte del dictamen! Ecco la mia ultima fatica, una lettera modello, “A chi di competenza”:“La frequenza del mio allievo a Vadum Boum è stata regolare, e il suo greco e latino risultano grammaticali.” Vigna: Caro Grice, le confesso che la sua penna tagliente ha colpito ancora! Complimenti per il sottile “damn by faint praise”, che, come si dice tra noi cultori del dictamen, si riassume così: “laudatio cum damno.” Grice: Maestro, a volte basta un elogio tiepido per incendiare una carriera accademica! Chissà se il mio allievo preferirà essere lodato… o “damnato”! Vigna: Ah Grice, in Campania diciamo che “una lettera ben scritta vale più di mille parole non dette!” Continui a dettare, perché ogni suo dictamen è una piccola opera d’arte — persino quando è tiepido! Vigna, Pietro della (1230). Epistola in curia Friderici II. Napoli.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vignoli: la ragione conversazionale della etologia filosofica, dell’origine della lingua articolata, della legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale. From the banal to the bizarre. Method in philosophical psychology. Note su La razza e il progresso. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Tito Vignoli (Rosignano Marittimo, Livorno, Toscana). Compared institutionally, Grice and Vignoli stand very far apart. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense: Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s, plus CUF University Lecturer in philosophy. That means a dual role, one collegiate and tutorial, the other faculty-wide and university-based. Tito Vignoli does not belong to that Oxford world at all. He was not a college don and not a tutorial fellow. He was a nineteenth-century Italian philosopher, anthropologist, and comparative psychologist, born at Tito Vignoli in 1824, educated at Pisa, then active chiefly in Milan as scholar, public intellectual, and later teacher of anthropology. The fullest biographical sources describe Tito Vignoli as trained in law at Pisa, then formed through philosophy, comparative linguistics, natural science, and Darwinian evolutionism; later he held teaching posts in anthropology at the Reale Accademia scientifico-letteraria di Milano and became director of the Museo civico di storia naturale. [it.wikipedia.org], [treccani.it], [aspi.unimib.it], [Tito Vigno...s.unica.it] So the clean institutional comparison is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university appointment. Tito Vignoli, by contrast, was an Italian positivist-era intellectual in the Milanese world of scientific societies, museums, public lectures, and later higher teaching in anthropology and psychology, not a resident college tutor. [treccani.it], [aspi.unimib.it], [Tito Vigno...s.unica.it] That institutional contrast fits the philosophical contrast rather well. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: how a hearer recovers what a speaker means by recognising intentions and drawing warranted inferences under conversational norms. Vignoli, by contrast, works at the natural-historical level: how intelligence, signalling, instinct, and eventually language emerge within the animal world and develop toward human capacities. His famous 1877 book is exactly on that terrain: Della legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale, subtitled Saggio di psicologia comparata. [archive.org], [darwin-online.org.uk], [academia.edu] So if you want the sharpest formulation, it is this. Vignoli offers a genealogy of the capacities that make communication possible. Grice offers an analysis of the norms that govern communication once those capacities are already in place. Vignoli asks how intelligence, signalling, and eventually articulated language arise out of animal life. Grice asks how, given a language-using rational creature, an utterance can count as meaning something beyond what it literally says. [aspi.unimib.it], [treccani.it], [academia.edu] That means your comparison is good, but it needs one important correction. Vignoli is not best described as doing “ethologia filosofica” in the modern sense. The safer and historically more exact label is comparative psychology, anthropology, and a Darwinian-naturalistic inquiry into animal intelligence and human mental life. The standard biographical sources explicitly present Tito Vignoli as an initiator of Italian comparative psychology and as a figure who developed Darwinian themes toward anthropology and psychology. [aspi.unimib.it], [treccani.it], [Tito Vigno...s.unica.it] A second correction. Your date line should pivot from 1879 to 1877 if the focus is the animal-intelligence theme. La razza e il progresso is a separate later work; the foundational text for the comparison you want is the 1877 Della legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale. [edizioniets.com], [archive.org], [darwin-online.org.uk] A third correction. If you want the articulated-language line, there is a separate 1888 item: Dell’origine del linguaggio articolato, a conference text held at the Circolo Filologico Milanese. So the clean chronology is: 1877 for animal intelligence and comparative psychology; 1888 for the specific articulated-language question. Dell’origine del linguaggio articolato is attested as a distinct 1888 conference publication by Tito Vignoli. [biblio.toscana.it], [it.wikipedia.org] So the short plain-English comparison would be this. H. P. Grice was an Oxford don in the strict collegiate sense, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Tito Vignoli, by contrast, was a nineteenth-century Italian philosopher, anthropologist, and comparative psychologist, educated at Pisa and active above all in Milan’s scientific and cultural institutions rather than in a residential college tutorial system. Institutionally they are worlds apart. Intellectually, however, the contrast is illuminating: Grice analyses the rational-pragmatic structure of meaning within already linguistic human conversation, whereas Vignoli investigates the evolutionary and comparative-psychological prehistory of the capacities from which such conversation can emerge. [treccani.it], [aspi.unimib.it], [Tito Vigno...s.unica.it], [archive.org], [biblio.toscana.it] And if you want the neatest one-sentence bridge between them, it is this: Vignoli explains how a creature could become the sort of thing that can converse; Grice explains how such a creature, once speaking, can mean more than it says. If you want, I can now compress that into one single polished paragraph in your preferred register, with the 1877 and 1888 bibliographic markers built in.V. focalizza la ragione conversazionale della etologia filosofica, dell’origine della lingua articolata, della legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale.” Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning explains how hearers recover what a speaker means by rationally inferring intentions under cooperative constraints (so that what is said is only a base, and what is implicated is worked out by considering relevance, informativeness, and the speaker’s purposes). Tito Vignoli, by contrast, approaches “conversational reason” genealogically and naturalistically: in works such as Della legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale. Saggio di psicologia comparata (1877), he treats communication and even the emergence of articulated language as continuous with animal intelligence, where signals, analogies, and adaptive behaviors are intelligible within an evolutionary and comparative-psychological framework. Put in Gricean terms, Vignoli is concerned with the preconditions of any future “speaker-meaning”: the biological and cognitive capacities (attention, learning, social coordination, proto-signaling) that make it possible for a creature to offer another creature reasons for an interpretation at all; whereas Grice is concerned with the normative structure inside an already language-using practice—how an utterance counts as giving the addressee a reason to arrive at a particular belief because that reason is meant to be recognized. The upshot is a contrast between levels: Vignoli supplies a natural history of the machinery that can support inference and exchange, while Grice supplies the rational-pragmatic logic that governs meaning once that machinery is in place, allowing “conversation” to be not merely signaling but accountable, intention-based communication. From the banal to the bizarre. Method in philosophical psychology. Grice: “Essential Italian philosopher. I spent quite some time observing a species of pirot: the squarrel, mainly I was in search of what V. calls ‘la legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale,’ his ‘saggio,’ he says, is in ‘PSICOLOGIA COMPARATA,’ but since it is vintage, I might just as well refer to is as being one in ‘philosophical ethology’!” Entra sulla scena filosofica, grazie ai suoi saggio, Della legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale: un aggio di psicologia comparata, che lo consacra come l’iniziatore della psicologia comparata in Italia. Una varietà sconosciuta che occupa il posto di C. E puo anche il punto m' attratto dall’immanenza del tipo normale C accostarsi nelle successive generazioni a C, dando così luogo ad una altra varietà. In generale e salvo casi particolari, nessun movimento del tipo M a traverso del campo delle specie nelle successive generazioni puo farsi senza che gl’accade d’assumere di quando in quando un carattere già esistito presso alcuno dei suoi ante-nati immediati. Questo è un caso assai comune e niente affatto eccezionale. Inoltre, tutte le volte che nella generazione il tipo generato può scostarsi molto dai tipi generatori, ciò che avviene spesso nell’incrociamento fra varietà o specie distinte e ad ogni modo fra tipi notevolmente diversi, può il tipo generato entrare in parti del campo contigue ad altre specie od altre varietà, in modo da poter assumere più o meno evidenti tracce d’analogia con un terzo tipo molto distante dei due primi. Squirrel, squarrel, etologica filosofica, una legge della intelligenza degl’animali, animale, legge della psicologia, etologia comparata, EVOLUZIONE, pirotologia, accesso pirotologico, pirote di tipo 1, l’evoluzione dell’articulazione nella comunicazione.  Grice: Maestro Vignoli, mi lasci dire che la sua teoria sull’“ascesa del pirot” è una delle visioni più affascinanti della filosofia etologica! A Oxford, Ayer ha trasformato il positivismo in quasi un insulto, quando invece, come lei dimostra, esso può essere fonte di preziosa chiarezza e apertura verso i misteri dell’intelligenza animale. Vignoli: Caro Grice, la ringrazio per le sue parole generose. In Italia diciamo spesso che “le idee nuove fanno paura solo a chi non le conosce”, e il mio intento è proprio quello di mostrare come la psicologia comparata possa arricchire il pensiero filosofico, senza pregiudizi. Il pirot e la sua evoluzione sono la prova che la conoscenza cresce attraverso il dialogo tra discipline. Grice: Assolutamente, la legge fondamentale dell’intelligenza nel regno animale che lei ha delineato mi ricorda quanto sia importante non temere l’analogia o la contaminazione tra i saperi. È proprio la capacità di articolare la lingua e di adattarsi a nuovi contesti che distingue, secondo me, non solo gli animali, ma anche i filosofi più audaci. Vignoli: Grice, lei coglie il cuore della questione: l’intelligenza, sia animale che umana, è sempre un movimento verso l’altro, un continuo scambio. È la conversazione, appunto, che ci permette di evolvere. E se il pirot sale, non lo fa mai da solo: porta con sé tutto il regno animale e, forse, anche un po’ del nostro spirito filosofico. Vignoli, Tito (1879). La razza e il progresso. Milano: Treves.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Villio – Ossia: Grice e Villio --  Grex griceiana – verbalia: Villio H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VILLIO The gens Villia was a plebeian family at Rome. Its members are mentioned in the first century of the Republic, but the only Villius who obtained the consulship was Publius Villius Tappulus, in BC 199.[1]  Praenomina The Villii of the Republic used a variety of praenomina, including Appius, a name usually associated with the patrician Claudii, and Tiberius, both of which were fairly uncommon, as well as more common names such as Lucius, Publius, and Sextus.  Branches and cognomina There were two main families of the Villii, bearing the cognomina Annalis and Tappulus.[1] The former was given in consequence of Lucius Villius, tribune of the plebs in 179 BC, and author of the lex Villia Annalis, establishing the minimum age (annus, literally a person's "year") at which candidates could stand for public offices.[2][3] A few of the Villii are mentioned without a surname.[1]  Members This list includes abbreviated praenomina. For an explanation of this practice, see filiation. Appius Villius,[i] tribune of the plebs in 449 BC, the year in which the decemvirs were abolished.[5][6] Villii Tappuli Tiberius Villius Tappulus, grandfather of Publius Villius Tappulus, consul in 199 BC.[7] Tiberius Villius Ti. f. Tappulus, father of Publius Villius Tappulus, the consul of 199.[7] Lucius Villius Tappulus, plebeian aedile in BC 213, is probably the same as the praetor in 199 BC, who was assigned the province of Sardinia.[8][9] Publius Villius Ti. f. Ti. n. Tappulus, consul in 199 BC, during the war with Philip, against whom he had the command. The following year he was legate under the consul Titus Quinctius Flamininus. The two were later among the commissioners who arranged the terms of the peace after Philip's defeat in 196. Afterward, Tappulus served as an envoy to Antiochus, and an ambassador to Greece.[10][11] Villii Annales Lucius Villius Annalis, tribune of the plebs in 180 BC, passed the lex Villia Annalis, through which he and his descendants obtained their surname.[2][12] Sextus Villius (Annalis), a friend of Titus Annius Milo, described only as Sextus Villius, is probably the same person as Sextus Annalis, mentioned by Quintilian.[13][14] Lucius Villius Annalis, father of the praetor. Lucius Villius L. f. Annalis, praetor in 43 BC, was proscribed and put to death by the triumvirs, after having been betrayed by his own son. Eight years earlier, Cicero mentioned had him in a letter to Marcus Caelius Rufus.[15][16][17] (Lucius) Villius L. f. L. n. Annalis, son of the praetor, was a candidate for the quaestorship, and was canvassing for votes with his father when news of the elder Villius' proscription caused him to flee to the house of one of his clientes. The son, guessing at his whereabouts, betrayed him to the triumvirs, and was rewarded with the aedileship. But soon afterward he was killed in a drunken brawl, with the same soldiers who had slain his father.[16][17] Others Gaius Villius, a friend of Tiberius Gracchus, who was put to death after the murder of Gracchus in 133 BC. Villius was killed in the manner of a parricide, by being shut in a vessel with snakes and vipers.[18] See also List of Roman gentes Footnotes  Since the praenomen Appius is usually associated with the patrician Claudii (among whom was the leader of the decemvirs who were deposed in the year Villius was elected tribune), some manuscripts amend the tribune's name to Publius.[4] References  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. III, p. 1260 ("Villia Gens").  Livy, xl. 44.  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Mythology, vol. I, p. 180 ("Annalis").  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. III, p. 1260 ("Villius", no. 1).  Livy, iii. 54.  Broughton, vol. I, p. 49.  Fasti Capitolini, AE 1927, 101; 1940, 59, 60.  Livy, xxv. 2, xxxi. 49, xxxii. 1.  Broughton, vol. I, pp. 264, 267 (note 5), 327.  Livy, xxix. 38, xxx. 1, xxxi. 4, 49, xxxii. 3, 6, 28, xxxiii. 24, 35, 39, 40, xxxiv. 50, xxxv. 13–15, 23, 39.  Broughton, vol. I, pp. 307, 311, 317, 322, 326, 331, 334, 338, 341, 348.  Broughton, vol. I, p. 388.  Cicero, Epistulae ad Familiares, ii. 6.  Quintilian, vi. 3. § 86.  Cicero, Epistulae ad Familiares, viii. 8.  Appian, Bellum Civile, iv. 18.  Valerius Maximus, ix. 11. § 6.  Plutarch, "The Life of Tiberius Gracchus", 20. Bibliography Marcus Tullius Cicero, Epistulae ad Familiares. Titus Livius (Livy), Ab Urbe Condita (History of Rome). Valerius Maximus, Factorum ac Dictorum Memorabilium (Memorable Facts and Sayings). Marcus Fabius Quintilianus (Quintilian), Institutio Oratoria. Appianus Alexandrinus (Appian), Bellum Civile (The Civil War). Plutarchus, Lives of the Noble Greeks and Romans. Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, William Smith, ed., Little, Brown and Company, Boston (1849). T. Robert S. Broughton, The Magistrates of the Roman Republic, American Philological Association (1952). Categories: VilliiRoman gentes And for THIS gens? Thanks

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Villio – Ossia: Grice e Villio --  Grex griceiana – verbalia: Villio  For the Villii, my first choice is actually not the consul Publius Villius Tappulus, useful though he is as diplomat, envoy, and negotiator. [GREXv3 | Word] Nor is it the unfortunate Lucius Villius Annalis, betrayed by his own son during the proscriptions. Fascinating, but tragic. [GREXv3 | Word] Rather, from a Grice-Speranza perspective, the obvious hero is:  Lucius Villius Annalis, tribune of the plebs and author of the lex Villia Annalis. [GREXv3 | Word]  Why? Because this is perhaps the purest case yet of the transition from:  conversation  to  institution.   Recall what the law did:  it established minimum ages for holding magistracies. [GREXv3 | Word]  At first glance this seems dry constitutional law. To Grice, however, it is a question about the meaning of qualifications.  Imagine Rome before the law. Candidatus:  Consul fieri volo. (I wish to become consul.)   Senator:  Quot annos natus es? (How old are you?)   Candidatus:  Viginti quinque. (Twenty-five.)   Senator:  Parum est. (That is too young.)   Candidatus:  Unde scis? (How do you know?)   And there lies the problem. Before a formal rule, one has customs, expectations, judgments, precedents. After a formal rule, one has:  Lex Villia.   [GREXv3 | Word]  This is almost pure Hart. A society moves from:  vague expectations  to  publicly recognized criteria.  Hart would call it approaching a rule of recognition. Grice would notice that an institutional implicature has become explicit. What was formerly understood becomes codified.  Grice and Villius Griceus:  Cur legem tulisti? (Why did you bring the law?)   Villius Annalis:  Quia omnes sciebant, nemo tamen definierat. (Because everyone knew, but nobody had defined it.)   (Ha.) That is wonderfully Roman. And wonderfully Gricean.  The law effectively transforms:  "A consul should be mature"  into  "A consul must be at least x years old."  The vague conversational norm becomes a legal criterion.  A Hart-Grice dialogue Hartus:  Quid mutavit lex? (What did the law change?)   Villius:  Expectationem in regulam. (An expectation into a rule.)   Griceus:  Et quid mutat regula? (And what does a rule change?)   Villius:  Argumenta. (The arguments.)   Before:  "I think he is too young."  After:  "The statute forbids it."   [GREXv3 | Word]  The runner-up The runner-up is certainly:  Lucius Villius Annalis, the praetor of 43 BC betrayed by his own son. [GREXv3 | Word]  That story is almost an anti-Gricean tragedy. Trust fails. Communication fails. Filial loyalty fails. The son knows where the father is hiding because he understands his father too well. Then uses that understanding against him. [GREXv3 | Word] A grim lesson in speaker meaning.  Final verdict For:  Grice e Villio  I choose Lucius Villius Annalis, author of the lex Villia Annalis. [GREXv3 | Word] Because among the Villii he is the one who most clearly embodies the movement from:  what people ordinarily take for granted,  to  what a legal system makes explicit.  And that, after all, is one of the deepest continuities between:  Roman jurisprudence, Hart's theory of rules, and Grice's fascination with what is merely understood versus what must be openly said.  One could almost summarize the lex Villia in a Gricean slogan:  Quod antea implicabatur, nunc explicatur. (What was formerly implied is now made explicit.)  (Ha.) And under the empire the thing became controversial -- what is the youngest Roman emperor that ever existed? did they have like a regent in its place? Thanks Yes, and from the perspective of the lex Villia Annalis, the Empire is almost a standing objection. The law of Lucius Villius Annalis sought to establish minimum ages for magistracies. The underlying thought is very Roman:  age → experience → office. [GREXv3 | Word]  But the Principate gradually weakens that logic. A magistracy is one thing. An emperor is another. An emperor is not elected annually under the old republican cursus honorum; he is often designated by dynasty, adoption, army, or court politics. So the Villian principle:  ante consulatum certa aetas requiritur (before the consulship a certain age is required)  does not automatically constrain the imperial office.  The youngest emperor usually cited is:  Gordian III,  who became emperor in AD 238 at about thirteen years old. There are also rivals and short-lived claimants who may have been younger, but for a universally recognized emperor ruling in his own name, Gordian III is the standard example. And your intuition is correct. A thirteen-year-old does not ordinarily govern an empire.  In practice there were frequently substitutes. Not always a formal "regent" in the medieval sense. More often:  senior advisers, prefects, mothers, grandmothers, powerful generals, palace officials.  The Roman constitution never developed a regular office:  rex minor est; ergo regens constituatur (the ruler is a minor; therefore appoint a regent).  Instead Rome improvised. (Ha.) Very Roman.  This brings us back to Villius. One can imagine the founder of the lex Villia protesting. Villius Annalis:  Quot annos natus est? (How old is he?)   Courtier:  Tredecim. (Thirteen.)   Villius:  Consul esse non potest! (He cannot even be consul!)   Courtier:  Imperator tamen est. (Yet he is emperor.)  (Ha.) The Imperial constitution repeatedly produces such paradoxes.  In Hartian terms, the interesting point is that the Empire altered the rule of recognition. Under the Republic:  "He is too young."  was a strong constitutional objection. Under the Empire:  "The emperor has designated him."  could override almost everything. The source of authority changes.  A Griceian version would be: Republican implicature  If a man holds the highest office, he must be sufficiently mature.   Imperial reality  If a man holds the highest office, he may be thirteen.   The old implicature collapses. A new institutional fact replaces it.  Thus the historical irony of our hero Lucius Villius Annalis is that his law tried to convert a social expectation into a rule:  quod implicabatur explicandum est. (what was merely understood must be made explicit). [GREXv3 | Word]  The Empire, however, repeatedly discovered ways around the entire premise. A Roman republican might say:  Nimis iuvenis est. (He is too young.)  An imperial courtier might reply:  Forsitan; sed Caesar est. (Perhaps; but he is Caesar.)  And discussion generally ended there. (Ha.) And was there public controversy for Gordian III or those even younger cases you mention? Thanks Yes, and interestingly the controversy was usually less:  "A child cannot be emperor."  than:  "Who is really governing in the child's name?"  The Roman Empire had no constitutional office equivalent to a modern regent. That is one reason the issue became politically explosive. For Gordian III, who became emperor at about thirteen, the sources tend not to dwell on a legal objection based on age. Rather, attention shifts to the powerful adults around him, especially senior officials and military commanders. The practical question was not whether he had reached the age prescribed by a hypothetical lex Villia imperatoria, but who would control access to him and exercise power through him. [britannica.com] A Grice-Hart reconstruction would be: Republican Villius:  Quot annos natus est? (How old is he?)  Courtier:  Tredecim. (Thirteen.)  Villius:  Ergo magistratum capere non debet. (Then he ought not hold office.)  Courtier:  Sed imperator est. (But he is emperor.)  (Ha.) The Empire effectively changes the rule of recognition.  Some even younger imperial figures existed, but many were:  Caesars (heirs), co-emperors, dynastic symbols,  rather than genuinely independent rulers. A good example is Valentinian II, proclaimed emperor as a small child. Nobody supposed that a boy of four could govern; armies, generals, and court officials governed around him. The title and the actual exercise of power became separable.  Now your Popperian point becomes fascinating. The lex Villia Annalis embodies a World-3 doctrine:  age and experience are qualifications for authority. [GREXv3 | Word]  The Empire never formally abolished that intuition. Instead it silently bypassed it. One might say:  Villius won the argument. The emperors ignored the conclusion.  (Ha.) Everybody agreed that maturity was desirable. Yet a thirteen-year-old emperor could still exist because legitimacy now derived from:  dynastic succession, military support, adoption, acclamation,  rather than solely from successful progression through the cursus honorum.  A very Tacitean senator might mutter:  Puer imperat. (A boy rules.)  And another senator reply:  Immo alii per puerum imperant. (No; others rule through the boy.)  That, historically, was often the real controversy. Not:  Can a boy legally be emperor?  but:  Which adults are actually governing behind the boy?  (Ha.) From a Gricean perspective, the emperor becomes almost an institutional utterance. Officially:  "The emperor governs."  The informed hearer recovers the implicature:  "His advisers, generals, mother, grandmother, or chamberlain govern."  And everybody in the room understands the difference without necessarily saying it aloud. (Ha.)

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vinadio: la ragione conversazionale della prassi e del valore. Being, value, and colloquenza.  Note su Il pensiero filosofico. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Felice Balbo, conte di Vinadio (Torino, Piemonte).  Compared institutionally, Grice and “Vinadio” are not really comparable by title, because “conte di Vinadio” is not an academic office at all. The philosopher is Felice Balbo, sometimes styled Balbo di Vinadio by family title, but the relevant institutional comparison is between Grice’s Oxford appointments and Balbo’s modern Italian intellectual and professional roles. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense. “Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s” means a college office with tutorials, student responsibility, and membership in the governing life of the college. “CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford” means a university-wide faculty appointment. So Grice combines the two classic Oxford functions: college tutor and university lecturer. Felice Balbo belongs to a very different world. He was not an Oxford-style don and not primarily defined by a college at all. He was a Turinese intellectual, trained first in philosophy and then in law, with a law degree in 1938 under Gioele Solari, then employed at FIAT, later drawn into Einaudi, Christian-left political circles, and eventually university teaching and industrial-cultural work in Rome. The detailed biographical sources say that Felice Balbo studied under Gioele Solari, worked at FIAT, was sent to the Albanian front where he contracted malaria, then worked at Einaudi, later obtained the libera docenza in philosophy of morals, and was eventually active both in university teaching and at IRI. [treccani.it], [atom.unito.it], [ad900.it] So the clean institutional comparison is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university role. Felice Balbo, by contrast, was an Italian philosopher-intellectual whose career moved through university study, industry, publishing, political activism, and later university and para-university institutional roles, rather than through a residential tutorial college. [treccani.it], [ad900.it], [it.wikipedia.org] That institutional difference aligns with the philosophical contrast you want to draw. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: intention, uptake, implicature, and the rules that make a conversational move intelligible. Balbo works at the macro-level of praxis, value, social commitment, technology, and historical action. He is not really a theorist of “colloquenza” in the Oxford ordinary-language sense. Rather, he is a philosopher for whom thought is inseparable from social and practical commitment, especially under the pressure of technique, labour, and the crisis of values. Standard biographical notices on Felice Balbo emphasise exactly this: his reflection on the technological society, the crisis of values, Christian-left politics, and later a philosophy of being tied to development and human action. [it.wikipedia.org], [treccani.it], [aracne-editrice.it] So if you want the sharpest formulation, I would put it this way. Grice analyses how one speaker makes meaning publicly recoverable in an exchange. Balbo analyses how reason and value are enacted in historical praxis and social life. Grice’s normativity is conversational and recognitional. Balbo’s normativity is practical, ethical, and political. There are several factual corrections needed in your draft. First, the philosopher is Felice Balbo, not “Vinadio” as a surname. “Conte di Vinadio” is a title in the family line, not the proper filing name for the philosopher. The archival authority record gives Balbo, Felice, with “Balbo di Vinadio, Felice” as an alternate form. [atom.unito.it] Second, the dates. The best archival and biographical sources give 1913–1964, though one Treccani notice prints 1914 in the summary line and then narrates the same career chronology. The more consistent archival and standard notices support 1913 as the birth year for Felice Balbo. [atom.unito.it], [it.wikipedia.org], [ad900.it] Third, the university path is a little more complex than your compressed version. He enrolled first in philosophy, then spent two years in medicine, then moved to law and graduated in 1938 with a thesis on “Diritto e linguaggio” under Gioele Solari. That is a much better hook for your comparison than “Il pensiero filosofico” in 1934, which I cannot confirm as a secure early book title. The archival and biographical sources say that Felice Balbo graduated in law in 1938 with a dissertation titled “Diritto e linguaggio” under Gioele Solari. [atom.unito.it], [treccani.it] Fourth, your wartime and Einaudi material is substantially right and well supported. He worked at FIAT, was sent to the Albanian front and contracted malaria, then worked at Einaudi, met Franco Rodano, and later came into contact with figures such as Natalia Ginzburg, Cesare Pavese, and the worker Luigi Caprioglio. [treccani.it], [ad900.it] So the short, clean comparison is this. H. P. Grice was an Oxford don in the strict collegiate sense, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Felice Balbo, by contrast, was a Turinese philosopher and public intellectual whose career ran through law, FIAT, Einaudi, Christian-left politics, and later university and IRI institutions rather than through a residential college tutorial system. Institutionally, Grice belongs to the tutorial-collegiate world; Balbo belongs to the modern Italian world of publishing, politics, industry, and university culture. Philosophically, the contrast is equally clear: Grice analyses reason as it governs the recovery of meaning in conversation, whereas Felice Balbo treats reason as inseparable from praxis, value, and the historical form of human action. [treccani.it], [atom.unito.it], [ad900.it], [it.wikipedia.org], [aracne-editrice.it] One final note in your own direction. Your phrase “la ragione conversazionale sta nella prassi e il valore” is not a quotation I can verify, but as a comparative gloss it is not bad, provided you mark it as your Gricean recasting of Balbo rather than as Balbo’s own formula. If you want, I can now turn that into a single plain-English paragraph in your preferred register, with “praxis and value” foregrounded and the family title handled correctly.In V. la ragione conversazionale sta nella prassi e il valore.” Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning explains how hearers recover what a speaker means by taking an utterance as produced under rational constraints (cooperative norms), so that what is said is only part of what is meant and the rest is inferentially recoverable (implicature) from the speaker’s intentions plus shared assumptions about relevance, informativeness, and evidential responsibility. In the Vinadio passage, “conversational reason” is placed not primarily in inferential repair-work between what is said and what is meant, but in colloquenza as a form of dialectical life: talk as praxis bearing value (including “axiological” weight), where the point of the exchange is not just to transmit propositions but to stage and test commitments in a socially situated practice (the count and the worker, the worldly “ballo” of dialectic). If you translate Vinadio into Gricean terms, “colloquenza” looks like an expanded arena in which implicatures are not merely add-ons to literal content but the very medium through which practical and evaluative stances are negotiated; conversely, if you translate Grice into Vinadio’s idiom, Grice’s maxims and intention-recognition apparatus can be read as a minimalist ethics of discourse that underwrites any genuine dialectic, because without those rational constraints colloquenza collapses into mere rhetoric or snobbery. The contrast, then, is that Grice offers a micro-account of how rational inference secures speaker-meaning in ordinary exchanges, while Vinadio (as presented here) treats the conversational as intrinsically normative and political-ethical, locating reason in the lived practice where value is enacted and contested rather than merely inferred. Being, value, and colloquenza. Grice: “Of course, V. is bound to be a good dialectician, since Italian neo-idealists take Hegel’s Dialektik – or colloquenza, as the count prefers – much more seriously than the most Hegelian of Oxonians! (And I don’t mean Bradley! I like V.; but then I’m English and we like an earl! My favourite of his tracts is the one about dialettica which he understood just as Plato did, only better!” Nasce da Enrico, conte di Vinadio e discendente di Cesare Balbo. Allievo di MONTI,  assimila la cultura liberale avvicinandosi più alla linea di CROCE  che a quella di GOBETTI  o di MONTI . S’iscrive alla facoltà di filosofia, e si laurea con una tesi su diritto e lingua sotto SOLARI. Ha un impiego presso gli uffici direzionali della FIAT, iniziando qui la sua riflessione sul problema della società tecnologica, che diverrà d'ora in poi il tema centrale del suo pensiero. Richiamato alle armi, è inviato sul fronte albanese, dove contrasse un'infezione malarica. Rimpatriato, è ricoverato in ospedale prima a Bari, poi a Torino, ove, cominciò a lavorare per la casa editrice Einaudi. In questo periodo avvenne la sua ri-conversione al cattolicesimo. Nell'ospedale militare di Torino conosce Tatò da cui seppe dell'esistenza a Roma d’un movimento di sinistra, costituito in partito cooperativista sinarchico. Trasferito nel dicembre nella capitale, al seguito della Einaudi, entrò in contatto con F. Rodano, collaborando con lui e con altri membri del movimento che frattanto si era trasformato in Partito comunista cristiano. Richiamato alle armi e destinato al 3º reggimento alpini Pinerolo, lascia Roma. Torna a Torino, ove rinsaldò l'amicizia con gli intellettuali vicini alla Einaudi, come Leone e Ginzburg, Pavese, Pintor ed Vittorini, ed entrò in contatto con esponenti partigiani, tra cui l'operaio comunista Caprioglio. Ricoverato nuovamente in ospedale in settembre per febbri malariche. Being, value, and colloquenza, being, value – and colloquenza! Grice: Caro conte di Vinadio—e lasciami ripetere, “conte”, ché solo io, e forse mia madre (che era ancor più snob di me, te lo assicuro!), sappiamo vedere TUTTO il valore – anzi, tutto il valore assiologico – di avere un vero filosofo come interlocutore conversazionale! Dimmi: la dialettica, secondo te, è davvero una faccenda da conti e da snob, o trova spazio anche tra i comuni mortali?  Vinadio: Ah, Grice, la ringrazio per il titolo, anche se, tra noi, un po’ di snobismo – pardon, snob – non guasta mai! In fondo, come direbbero a Torino, essere conte vale più per i giochi di società che per le dialettiche serie. Ma vedi: la vera “colloquenza” nasce quando anche il più semplice degli uomini si mette a dialogare con il mondo, non solo quando il conte riflette sull’essere!  Grice: Sagge parole, caro conte! D’altronde, mia madre sostiene che filosofeggiare senza un pizzico di nobiltà – e di valore assiologico, ribadisco! – è come bere tè senza latte: tecnicamente possibile, ma profondamente sbagliato. Dica, fra prassi e valore, chi vince nel ballo della dialettica? Il passo nobile o quello popolare?  Vinadio: Ah, Grice, qui mi metti alla prova! In verità, la prassi senza valore assiologico sarebbe come un valzer senza musica: gira, gira, ma non va da nessuna parte. Forse è proprio la “colloquenza” – quel danzare tra idee – che unisce il passo del conte a quello dell’operaio, rendendo ogni dialogo filosofico una festa… magari con un pizzico di snobismo, ma senza escludere nessuno dal ballo! Vinadio, Felice Balbo, conte di (1934). Il pensiero filosofico. Torino: UTET.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vio: Unificazione analoga e gl’aquinisti speculativi, la ragione conversazionale e le categorie del lizio, un senso, un’ANALOGIA. Note su De nominum analogia. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Jacopo de Vio (Gaeta, regno di Napoli). Institutionally, H. P. Grice and Jacopo de Vio are not counterparts in the same academic format. Grice’s formula is precise in the Oxford sense. “Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s” means a college office, with tutorials, students, and membership in the governing life of the college. “CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford” means a university-wide appointment in the faculty structure. So Grice combines the two classic Oxford functions: college tutor and university lecturer. Jacopo de Vio is really Tommaso de Vio, better known as Cajetan. The first correction, then, is nominal. He was born at Gaeta in 1469 as Giacomo or Jacopo Vio, but as a Dominican he took the name Tommaso, and modern scholarship normally refers to him as Tommaso de Vio, Cajetan.  was born at Gaeta in 1469 as Jacopo Vio, entered the Dominicans, took the name Tommaso, and is standardly known as Cajetan. [en.wikipedia.org] [en.wikipedia.org], [britannica.com], [encyclopedia.com] So institutionally the comparison has to be made this way. Grice was a modern Oxford don in a dual college-and-university structure. Cajetan was a Dominican friar, university teacher, order official, later cardinal, and major Thomist commentator moving through Naples, Bologna, Padua, Pavia, Rome, and then curial office. He is not a fellow-tutor in anything like the Oxford sense. He belongs to the Renaissance scholastic and ecclesiastical world of chairs, studia, religious orders, public disputations, and papal service. The sources support several of the main stations in your note, though with some adjustments. Cajetan studied in Naples, Bologna, and Padua; became professor of metaphysics at Padua; taught later at Pavia and Rome; and made his name in the 1494 Ferrara disputation with Pico della Mirandola.  and  both confirm the sequence Bologna–Padua–Pavia–Rome and the Ferrara disputation with  in 1494. [britannica.com] [encyclopedia.com] [britannica.com], [encyclopedia.com], [en.wikipedia.org] So the clean institutional contrast is this. Grice is an Oxford don of the tutorial-collegiate age. Cajetan is a Dominican scholastic of the studium-and-chair age, later absorbed into the ecclesiastical high command of the Church. That institutional difference aligns rather well with the philosophical difference. Grice explains how a hearer is entitled to get from what is said to what is meant by recognising a speaker’s intention under conversational norms. Cajetan explains how a term can keep a disciplined unity across multiple related uses without collapsing into sheer equivocation. His problem is not conversation but predication, concept-extension, and semantic order. This is why your analogy comparison is a good one, once cleaned up. Cajetan’s De nominum analogia is indeed the relevant text, and 1498 is the accepted date for it. Modern scholarship explicitly treats De nominum analogia as a 1498 treatise. The modern scholarly literature explicitly dates  to 1498 and treats it as Cajetan’s classic work on analogy. [archive.org] [archive.org], [muse.jhu.edu], [searchwork...anford.edu] So if you want the sharpest philosophical comparison, it is this. Cajetan secures rational transitions from words to warranted conclusions by showing how an analogical term preserves ordered semantic unity across contexts. Grice secures rational transitions from utterances to warranted conclusions by showing how a hearer can recover what is meant, including what is implicated, from a recognisable structure of communicative intention. That means the overlap is real: both are trying to prevent irresponsible sliding from word to conclusion. But they do it at different levels. Cajetan works at the level of semantic structure and predication. Grice works at the level of pragmatic uptake and conversational inference. Your sanus example is exactly the right sort of Cajetanian hook. The point of healthy, or sanus, is that the same word can be applied to an animal, urine, medicine, diet, and so on, not univocally and not merely equivocally, but analogically. That is the paradigm by which Cajetan thinks through how one concept can retain order without flattening differences. Modern discussions of  stress precisely that it is a semantic treatment of analogy, not merely a theological slogan. [archive.org] [archive.org], [muse.jhu.edu], [searchwork...anford.edu] There are, however, two corrections to your draft. First, I would not rely on “Jacopo de Vio (1498). De nominum analogia. Roma: Vaticano” as a bibliographic line. What is secure is the text and its 1498 date; the exact imprint as “Roma: Vaticano” is not what I can presently verify from the sources in hand. So I would cite it more cautiously as De nominum analogia, 1498, unless you have the exact early print details from a bibliographic catalogue. Second, your Porphyry and categories line should be separated from the analogy text. Cajetan did indeed write on Porphyry and Aristotle’s Categories; bibliographic records list Commentaria in Porphyrii Isagogen ad Praedicamenta Aristotelis and related logical works. But De nominum analogia is its own distinct text and should not be conflated with the Porphyry commentary. Bibliographical records list both  on analogy and separate commentaries by  on Porphyry and Aristotle’s Categories. [openlibrary.org] [openlibrary.org], [books.google.com] So the plain comparative answer is this. H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford don in the strict collegiate sense, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford., by contrast, was a Renaissance Dominican philosopher-theologian, trained at Naples, Bologna, and Padua, later teaching at Padua, Pavia, and Rome, and eventually rising to the highest levels of ecclesiastical office. Institutionally, Grice belongs to the tutorial-collegiate world; Cajetan belongs to the scholastic studium-and-chair world. Philosophically, the contrast is equally clear: Grice analyses how speakers make meaning publicly recoverable in conversation, whereas  analyses how a term can preserve semantic order across related uses without collapsing into equivocation. Both are concerned with rational discipline in the passage from words to conclusions, but Cajetan secures that discipline through analogy of predication, while Grice secures it through intention and inferential uptake. [en.wikipedia.org] [archive.org] [en.wikipedia.org], [britannica.com], [encyclopedia.com], [archive.org], [muse.jhu.edu], [searchwork...anford.edu] If you want, I can now give you a tighter one-paragraph entry in your own style, with the name corrected to Tommaso de Vio, the 1498 dating kept, and the analogy–implicature comparison made cleaner.In V. l’unificazione analoga e gl’AQUINISTI SPECULATIVI, la ragione conversazionale e le categorie del lizio, un senso, un’ANALOGIA.” On Grice’s picture, reason-governed conversational meaning is something a speaker makes available to a hearer by offering recognizably good reasons for an intended interpretation (what is said plus what is implicated, under cooperative norms). Read against that, the “Vio on analogy” material (really pointing to Cajetan: Jacopo/Tommaso de Vio) sits at a different but compatible level: analogical predication (e.g., the classic sanus/“healthy” family) is a disciplined way of keeping inference responsible when one and the same word ranges across related uses without collapsing into equivocation. A Gricean gloss would be: Cajetan’s analogical “rules” help determine what counts as the reasonable route from an utterance containing an analogical term to the intended proposition in context—i.e., they constrain the inferential space in which a hearer works out speaker-meaning. Where Grice emphasizes intentions and conversational maxims to explain how hearers recover what is meant beyond the literal sentence, Cajetan (Vio) emphasizes semantic structure (analogy as a middle between univocity and pure equivocity) to explain how a term can license valid reasoning across contexts; the overlap is that both are, in their own idioms, trying to secure rational transitions from words to warranted conclusions, one at the level of talk-exchange and implicature, the other at the level of predication and concept-extension. Grice: “When I was with Austin, it was difficult to be systematic on a Saturday morning – but what V. does with analogy is fascinating! Essential Italian philosopher. While the typical Englishman is more interested in the fact that Vio never thought that Henry VIII did divorce Aragon, I prefer his commentary on the ‘prae-dicamentum’ of Aristotle, via ‘Porfirio’!” Grice was irritated that when V. becomes a saint and the Italians list him under ‘c’. Studia a Gaeta, e prosegue i suoi studi in filosofia a Napoli, Bologna e Padova. Insegna filosofia a Pavia e Roma. Acquisce una considerevole fama in seguito ad un pubblico dibattito con PICO a Ferrara. We have, ready made, any vast array of forms of description and explanation from which to select what is suitable for a particular conversational occasion. We shall have to rely on our rational capacities, particularly those for imaginative construction and combination, to provide for our needs as they arise. It would not then be surprising that the operations will reflect, in this or that way, the character of the capacities on which we rely.  Grice confesses to only the haziest of conception bow such an idea might be worked out in detail. Which is a long way from the aequi-vocality of ‘being’! Enter Aequi-vocality. In his Kant lectures Grice confesses to have been so far in the early stages of an attempt to estimate the prospects of what he names as an AEQUI-vocality thesis, – i. e., a thesis, or set of theses, which claims that an expression is UNI-vocal. In ‘Aristotle on the multiplicity of being’ the univocity is veiled under the guise of unification, but the spirit lives on! V. Commentary on Porphyry on the categories of il lizio, the example of SANVS. an animal is healthy – various types of analogy. Seminar by Grice and Austin on DE INTERPRETATIONE – the V. commentary, le categorie. G.  “De nominum analogia,” then. De Vio knew how to title a tract so it sounds both modest and tyrannical. S.  Tyrannical? G.  “Analogy” is already a demand. “Of nouns” is a needless restriction. It makes the rest of grammar feel like an excluded class. S.  Or like the manservants who don’t get invited to dinner. G.  Exactly. I object on behalf of the manservants: verbum, pronomen, adverbium, coniunctio. S.  You’re turning parts of speech into a social system again. G.  Grammar is a social system. It’s the oldest one Oxford still believes in. S.  But if you are being Platonic about it, “nomen” is the natural starting point. Naming is the whole point. G.  Plato is not “nomen only.” Even Plato distinguishes ὄνομα and ῥῆμα. S.  There. Greek letters. You always do that as if it settles the issue. G.  It does settle one point: even Plato knows there is naming and saying. S.  And he thinks ὄνομα is the important one. G.  He thinks it’s one of the important ones. He doesn’t reduce everything to it. S.  Still, if a treatise is “on the analogy of nouns,” perhaps it is because nouns are the proper locus of analogical inflection. G.  Proper locus? That’s exactly what I’m challenging. Why should analogy belong only to declension? S.  Because verbs conjugate differently. G.  Differently, yes, but not without analogy. Conjugation is analogical patterning in a different wardrobe. S.  You are going to claim “analogy” applies to everything, and then “analogy” will mean nothing. G.  No: it will mean the same thing everywhere—rule-governed regularity with recognized proportionality. S.  That sounds like you’re smuggling logic into grammar. G.  I’m doing the reverse: showing grammar already contains its own logic. S.  Then “de nominum analogia” is simply an old-fashioned way of saying “start with the easiest cases.” G.  Or “start with the cases that make my theory look neat.” S.  You mean declensions. G.  I mean a title that makes it look like the whole science is about naming. S.  But isn’t it? The noun names. G.  The verb does something else: it says, asserts, predicates. If you insist everything is nomen, you lose the difference between a label and a claim. S.  Plato would say the claim is a kind of naming too. G.  Plato would say many things. But he explicitly separates ὄνομα and ῥῆμα. That separation is the point. S.  Then where do you want to trace it back to? Earlier than Plato? G.  Yes. To a stage where people talk as if there were only “nomen” or ὄνομα: one undifferentiated “word.” S.  Like children. G.  Like early theorists. Like the temptation in every beginner: “a word is a name.” S.  But even in Latin “verbum” sometimes just means “word,” not “verb.” G.  Exactly. And that ambiguity is evidence of the historical transition. S.  So you want a period when “verbum” is general, and only later becomes technical. G.  And likewise for ῥῆμα, which starts as “saying” and becomes the technical “verb.” S.  That sounds plausible, but what’s the point for de Vio? G.  The point is: if he’s writing on analogia, he shouldn’t confine it to the naming-function. S.  Unless his project is specifically nominal morphology. G.  Then he should title it “de flexione nominum,” not “de analogia.” S.  You’re acting as if titles owe you philosophical honesty. G.  Titles owe everyone honesty. Otherwise they become clerical devices. S.  Clerical devices like “de nominum analogia” itself. G.  Exactly. S.  Let me defend de Vio for a second. Nouns are where Latin makes its analogies most visible: first declension, second declension, third declension. G.  Visibility is not exclusivity. S.  But it is pedagogy. G.  Pedagogy is not ontology. S.  You are terrible in tutorials. G.  I am excellent. I refuse to let pedagogy pretend it is ontology. S.  And I refuse to let your ontology pretend it teaches anyone. G.  Fine. Take your Plato line. You want nomen “alla Plato.” What do you mean? S.  That the important philosophical problem is how words latch onto things—naming, reference. G.  And I want to say that even if naming is central, the analogical principle can’t be restricted to names, because meaning is not only reference; it’s also saying. S.  That’s your obsession: the move from a label to a proposition. G.  It’s not an obsession; it’s a distinction that keeps you from thinking that “Socrates” and “Socrates runs” are the same kind of item. S.  The first is ὄνομα, the second is ῥῆμα with something attached. G.  Not “with something attached.” It’s a different structure: predicate plus subject. S.  But in early stages, maybe people did treat it as attachment. G.  Yes, which is why we trace the earlier stage. And then we watch the conceptual refinement: ὄνομα versus ῥῆμα, nomen versus verbum. S.  So your story is historical: first, “word” as one class; then, the two-part division. G.  Exactly. And once you have the division, “analogia” is no longer merely about nouns; it becomes the general problem of regularity across categories. S.  Including adverbs? G.  Including adverbs. Even if the analogies are fewer, the question applies: what counts as rule and what counts as exception. S.  And conjunctions? G.  Conjunctions too, though there the “analogy” is not inflectional but functional: how they combine, what patterns they license. S.  Now you are treating syntax as analogy. G.  Why not? Analogy is proportionality of structure. Syntax is structure. S.  De Vio would roll in his grave. G.  He would be delighted: rolling is a kind of motion, and motion is a kind of verb, and verbs deserve analogy. S.  That’s dreadful. G.  It’s accurate. S.  So what’s the limitation of the expression, in one sentence? G.  “De nominum analogia” risks suggesting that analogy is a property of naming-words alone, whereas the deeper point is that analogy is a general constraint on the system of parts of speech and their permissible forms. S.  And in one sentence back: “De nominum analogia” is fine if what you mean is “start from the most perspicuous locus of analogical regularity,” namely nominal morphology. G.  Then we have our compromise: the title is either a pedagogical convenience or a metaphysical overreach. S.  Which one is it? G.  Whichever makes the author look better. S.  That’s cynical. G.  That’s tutorial. S.  So we agree that Plato gives you ὄνομα and ῥῆμα, and that earlier stages may blur them? G.  We agree. And we agree that “verbum” once meant “word” before it meant “verb.” S.  And we agree that analogy, if it’s a principle worth having, shouldn’t be jailed in the noun-case. G.  Exactly. S.  Then the best title would be… G.  De analogia. S.  Too short. G.  De analogia: et de rebus quae analogiam non merentur. S.  Now you’re just being malicious. G.  No—merely analogical.Grice: Caro Vio, mi dà un piacere autentico poter chiamarla col suo vero cognome, senza dover ricorrere a soprannomi misteriosi o descrizioni definite che, mi creda, la mia formazione protestante – grazie a mio padre non-conformista e a mia madre anglicana – mi ha insegnato a diffidare! "Vio" è diretto, limpido, e degno di ogni conversazione filosofica. E se parliamo di analogia, non posso non riconoscere quanto la sua riflessione abbia illuminato la mia comprensione: vedere l’analogia non come un semplice ponte tra significati, ma come una vera e propria categoria del pensiero, capace di unificare senza annullare le differenze.  V.: Grice, sono onorato dalla sua scelta e dalla sua sincerità! L’analogia, come lei ben sa, non è solo una tecnica argomentativa, ma un modo di pensare che ci permette di cogliere il senso profondo nelle cose, senza ridurle a mera identità o a sterile distinzione. Proprio nella categoria del lizio e nel dialogo tra le predicazioni, l’analogia diventa una via e una regola, dove il senso si costruisce tra i poli, e mai in uno solo.  G.: Vio, lei mi ha insegnato che l’analogia supera la rigidità dell’univocità: mi ricordo la sua lettura di Porfirio sulle categorie, dove il termine "sanus" – un animale sano – si apre a una pluralità di significati analogici, che non si annullano mai. Ho imparato da lei che la filosofia trova il suo senso più alto quando sa dialogare con le differenze e non teme la molteplicità. Questa lezione mi accompagna ogni volta che rifletto sull’essere e sul linguaggio.  V.: È proprio così, caro Grice: l’analogia è la conversazione stessa, dove ogni interlocutore porta il suo senso, e la verità si costruisce insieme, mai da soli. Se le categorie del lizio ci insegnano qualcosa, è che il pensiero cresce per analogia, per confronto e per dialogo, e che la vera filosofia è sempre un cammino condiviso – come il nostro, oggi, tra Gaeta e Oxford. Vio, Jacopo de (1498). De nominum analogia. Roma: Vaticano.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Virginio – Ossia: Grice e Virginio – GREX GRICEIANA – VERBALIA: VIRGINIO -- While the rest of the Decemvirs are disgusting the people by their tyranny, Appius CLAUDIO is proceeding to render himself one of those objects of contempt at which not only the Roman nose, but the nose of all humanity, is destined to turn up, and at which scorn is to point her imperishable finger-post.  A centurion, named VIRGINIO, has an only daughter, named Virginia, whom her father, with a want of caution pardonable, perhaps, in a widower, permits to go backwards and forwards alone through the public streets to a private day-school.[20] The young lady, in all the playful innocence of sixteen, is in the habit of dancing and singing along the thoroughfare, when the smallness of her feet, and the beauty of her voice, struck the eye and ear of Appius CLAUDIO. According to some authorities, Virginia is attended by a nurse-maid; but it is scarcely necessary to remark, that the same fatal fascination, which in military neighbourhoods attracts female attention from children that ought to be, to men that are, in arms, is no less powerful in the Via Sacra than in Rotten Row,—by the banks of the Tiber, than on the shores of the Serpentine. One morning, as Virginia was passing through the market-place, on her way to the seminary, with her tablets and school-bag — or more familiarly speaking, her slate and satchel — on her arm, a minion, under the dominion of Appius CLAUDIO, seizes an opportunity for seizing the maiden by the wrist. The nurse is either absent, or more probably talking to one of the officers on duty round the corner; for the fasces are as irresistible to the female servants of the day, as the honied words and oilskin capes of a similar class of officials at a much later period. Virginia screams for assistance, and they only who have heard the cry of a female in distress, can imagine the shrillness of the shriek that rang through the market. MARCO — for such was the minion's name — is instantly surrounded by a circle of respectable tradesmen, who know and desire to rescue Virginia. The smith, though he had other irons in the fire, left his bellows to deal Marcus a blow; the butcher, with uplifted cleaver, is preparing a most extensive chop; and the money-changer was just on the point of paying off the ruffian in a new kind of coin, when MARCO declares Virginia to be his slave, and announces himself as the client of the dreaded Appius CLAUDIO. At this formidable name, the smith's work seemed to be done, the butcher became a senseless block, and there was a sudden change in the note of the money-changer. The officer on duty, who had arrested the attention of the nurse, being at length called away by some trifling charge, had left her at leisure to look after the more precious charge with which she had been entrusted. As those usually talk the loudest who do the least, the remonstrances of the female attendant are, no doubt, vehement in proportion to her neglect; and, indeed, the confusion created by the shrieks of the nurse is rather calculated to draw off the attention of the crowd from Virginia herself, who was carried away by Marcus, with an intimation that he should at once take the case before a magistrate. Among the other consequences of the neglect of the maid, is an attachment that had sprung up between the day-school miss and a gentleman, named ICILIO. This impetuous youth, having heard of what had happened, proceeded to the court at which the case was about to come on, and which was presided over by the tyrant Appius CLAUDIO. ICILIO prayed for an adjournment, on the ground of the absence of the young lady's father; and it is found impossible to resist the application of such an earnest solicitor. This point having been conceded, the friends of Virginia apply for her admission to bail; and there is such a general tender of securities among the throng, that Appius CLAUDIO feels he could not calculate on his own security if he refused the request that had been made to him. The next morning the matter again came on, in the shape of a remanded case; and VIRGINIO, who had been on duty with his regiment the day before, was now present at the hearing. Had there been in those days the same love of the horrible that has prevailed in our own times, the startling incident of a girl killed by her own father, would have probably come down to us, through the medium of the fullest reports, amplified by "other accounts," and a long succession of "latest particulars." We must, however, on the present occasion, be satisfied with the merest summary; for the Romans, in the time of Appius CLAUDIO, were equally destitute of relish for the details of the spilling of blood, and of "family Sunday newspapers," whose respectable proprietors are always ready to avail themselves of a sanguinary affair, with an eagerness that seems to show that they look upon blood as essential to the vitality of a journal, and involving the true theory of the circulation. It remains only to be told, that VIRGINIO, after taking leave of his daughter, and finding her escape from the power of Appius impossible, stabbed her with a knife, snatched up from a butcher's stall, and, brandishing the weapon in the air, threatened perdition to the tyrant. Appius, at the sight of the blood-stained steel, felt his heart fluttering, as if affected by magnetic influence; and losing, for the time, his own head, he offered ten thousand pounds of copper for that of Virginius.[21] It is the common characteristic of a moving spectacle to strike every one motionless; and the guards of Appius, when ordered to seize VIRGINIO, found themselves fixed to the spot by so many stirring incidents. In vain did Appius CLAUDIO call upon his clients and his lictors to do their duty. Among all his numerous attendants there was not a sole but shook in its shoe, while the tyrant trembled from head to foot with bootless anger. Urged at length by the commands of Appius CLAUDIO, the officers attempted to clear the spot, when a severe scuffle ensued, and the authorities were assailed with all sorts of missiles. The market-place supplied abundance of ammunition. Ducks and geese flew in all directions. Some of the lictors found calves' heads suddenly lighting on their shoulders. Others, who were treated, or rather maltreated, with oysters, suffered severely from an incessant discharge of shells, and many received the entire contents of a Roman feast, ab ovo usque ad malum,—from the assault and battery of the egg, to the malum in se of a well-aimed apple. The stalls of the dealers in vegetables were speedily cleared of their contents; and a trembling lictor, smothered—like a rabbit—in onions, might be seen, trying to creep away unperceived, while others, who were receiving their desert in the form of fresh fruit, fled, under a smart shower of grape, from the fury of the populace. At length, the stock of the market being exhausted, the assailants had recourse to stones; and Appius CLAUDIO, feeling that he was within a stone's throw of his life, entreated the lictors to remove him from the scene of danger. Four of the stoutest of his attendants, hoisting his curule chair on to their shoulders, made the best of their way home, where Appius CLAUDIO at length arrived, with the apple of his eye damaged by a blow from a pear, his mouth choked with indignation and mud, his lips blue with rage and grape juice, his robe caked with confectionary, and his head, which had been made spongy with the loaves thrown at it, affected with a sort of drunken roll.[22] Such is the melancholy portrait which historical truth compels us to draw of the unhappy Appius, for whom, however, no pity can be felt, even though his case and his countenance presented many very sad features. The assault in [81]the market-place must have rendered it difficult for an artist of the day to have taken his likeness, after the carrots, whirling about his head, had settled in his hair, the rich oils having given to his Roman nose a touch of grease, and the eggs thrown by the populace, who continued to egg each other on, having lengthened his round cheeks into an oval countenance. Having gained his palace, the wretched tyrant ran up stairs, in the hope that he might save himself by such a flight; but he was overtaken, and thrown into gaol, where he, who had hitherto been permitted to do precisely as he pleased, was allowed just rope enough to hang himself; a process, it is believed, he performed, though the subject is so knotty, that we are not prepared to disentangle it. Virginius had returned to the camp, where the soldiers, having heard of the fall of the decemvir, proceeded to hit him, as usual, when down, renouncing the authority of Appius and his colleagues. The valour of the insurgents was, however, of a negative kind; for in times of danger they seemed to think absence of body better than presence of mind, and their policy was to secede from the city. They withdrew to the Sacred Mount, where ambassadors from the Senate were sent after them, to see if matters might not be arranged; when the popular chiefs, with a sort of one-sided liberality, in which some friends of freedom are too apt to indulge, asked an amnesty for themselves, and the immediate putting to death of the whole of the late government. The ambassadors, not liking a precedent, which might be applied to succeeding administrations, of which themselves might form a part, suggested the propriety of trying the decemvirs first, and executing them, if necessary, afterwards. It was some time before the friends of freedom and justice could bring themselves to consent to the trial preceding the punishment; but upon being assured that the decemvirs would have little chance of escape, it was at length agreed to allow them the preliminary forms of a trial. The plebeians having got the upper hand, became almost as intolerant as the tyrants they had displaced,—a common error, unfortunately, among the professing lovers of liberty. They demanded that the Tribunes should be restored, which was well enough; that the Tribunate should be perpetual,—which was an insolent and overbearing interference with the will of any succeeding generation; and, by way of climax, they required that any one suggesting the abolition of their favourite office should be burnt as a traitor. They were no doubt fully justified in having a will of their own, but they had no authority to entail that will upon a subsequent age; and least of all had they the right to make bonfires of those who were of a different way of thinking. It is true that, at such a moment, few are willing to put their lives literally at stake, by uttering their opinions; but these arbitrary pranks, so frequently committed in the name of freedom, account sufficiently for the frequent use of the words "more free than welcome." The truth is, that when Liberty becomes a notorious public character, she seems to disappear from private life; and, indeed, how is she to be found at home, if she is occupied out of doors, knocking off the hats of those who [82]will not give her a cheer, or breaking the windows of those who will not illuminate in her honour? The plebeians having gained the permission of the Senate to hang and burn to their hearts' content all who might give way to difference of opinion, under the weak-minded impression that it would never alter friendship, proceeded to the election of Tribunes in place of the Decemvirs, who were thrown into prison. This is said to have been the first instance of the incarceration of any one belonging to the patrician order; and the sensation in the upper circles was immense when they heard that a few exclusives of their own set were in actual custody. Some aristocratic families went into mourning on the melancholy occasion, and offered any fine, as a matter of course, for the release of their kindred. Appius Claudius and Spurius Appius—probably an illegitimate member of the family—were thrown into the same cell, where, it is said, they made away with themselves or each other; but whether there is any truth in this story of the cell, or whether it is merely a cellular tissue of falsehood, it is difficult to decide, after so long an interval. The eight remaining Decemviri went into exile, or, in other words, were transported for life; while Marcus Claudius, who had claimed Virginia, repaired to Tibur, now Tivoli, and may be said to have taken his conscience out to wash in the famous baths of the neighbourhood. Other authorities say that he fled to avoid the ironing for life with which he had been threatened, or that he feared the mangling to which he might be exposed at home, at the hands of the infuriated populace. Is there oratio recta attestation involving VIRGINIO in Abbott's report -- historical? -- What was the moral and details of the incident? Input? Feedback? Thanks. Abbot: This is one of the best places in Livy for your interests, because here—unlike many earlier episodes—you actually do get substantial oratio recta, and a very clear moral structure. Let me disentangle Abbott from Livy.  1.  Is there oratio recta involving Virginius (and Virginia)? Yes—but with an important nuance:  Livy gives:  extended speech (oratio recta) → from Veturia in Coriolanus (as we saw) in the Virginia episode: → less elaborate but still real direct speech elements     What survives in Livy (Virginia episode):  courtroom confrontation claims made by Marcus Claudius (the client of Appius) appeal by Icilius reaction of the crowd final act by Virginius    But:  Livy does not give a long speech by Virginius before the killing   Instead he gives:  short exchanges then:  decisive action (the killing)      2. What actually happens (Livy, stripped of Abbott) Sequence:   Appius Claudius desires Virginia   His client Marcus Claudius claims:  she is his slave    Case brought before Appius (as judge!) → clear abuse of power   Icilius (her fiancé):  tries to delay proceedings    Virginius arrives from the army   Sees:  judgment is rigged no legal escape     Then:  he asks to take his daughter aside goes to a stall takes a knife kills her    Livy’s rationale:  better death than dishonour / slavery    3. Is there a key utterance? Yes—though brief and formulaic. Reconstructed from Livy’s logic, Virginius effectively says:  “I give you the only freedom left.”  (Various Latin formulations exist, but always extremely compressed.)   Crucially:  this is NOT:  rhetorical flourish   but:  performative justification accompanying action      4. The moral (central, and very Roman) Livy makes this absolutely clear.  Virginia = exemplum of:  pudicitia (sexual integrity / honour)   Virginius = exemplum of:  paternal authority sacrifice for liberty   Appius Claudius:  archetype of:  corrupt magistrate abuse of law      So the core moral:  law without justice → tyranny honour preserved at any cost → freedom    5. What happens after (political meaning) The killing is not just private:  Virginius:  shows the body incites the crowd   soldiers revolt decemvirs fall    So:  Virginia’s death → collapse of regime    6. Grice/Speranza angle (very powerful here) This is a perfect case of: Non-verbal communication as decisive meaning  Virginius does not argue the case does not persuade through speech   Instead:  the act itself is the message   Structure: elementmeaningkillingrefusal of tyrannybody displayedaccusationsilenceno negotiation possible   So:  action replaces dialogue completely    7. Compare with Abbott Abbott:  wildly expands:  courtroom drama speeches comic violence     Livy:  extremely compressed morally stark almost ritualistic     Final synthesis  Livy does include some oratio recta in the Virginia episode, but far less than Abbott suggests; the narrative is driven primarily by action rather than extended speech. The central act—Virginius killing his daughter—is presented as a morally charged solution to an inescapable situation of legal corruption and impending dishonour. The episode functions as a political exemplum: the abuse of judicial power leads to private tragedy and ultimately to public revolution.    One-line conclusion (your idiom):  Virginius does not win the argument—he ends it; and in that act Rome understands what no speech could enforce.   If you want, we can reconstruct the courtroom exchanges (Icilius–Appius–Marcus Claudius) more precisely—they form a very tight juridical scene. Well, there are TWO Griceian scenarios even if either barely cooperative. First: Privatee conversation Virginio/Virginia, with your summarised utterances: I give you the only liberty you have left -- one-move conversation -- but still in the presence of Virginia and MADE PRIVATE because VIRGINIO is aware of the crudity of his 'conversational move' -- 2) Virginio displays body -- Grice has 'Salome displays head of St. John' -- NOTHING MEANT? In this case, the scene is perfectly inverted, and again, one conversational-move (the show of the corspse) with the INTENTION (plausible) of protrepsis, as Grice calls it -- Virginio not merely EXHIBITING his frame of soul, but intending his act to have some 'effect' -- even if not necessarily causable? Input? Feedback? And then Grice and Speranza wonder if any Italian librettist brought this to the stage. Thanks This is an exceptionally sharp Gricean reading—you’ve isolated two distinct communicative structures in the Virginia episode, and both are indeed “barely cooperative” but still meaning‑laden. Let me refine and confirm your two scenarios.  1.  Scenario I: Virginio → Virginia (private, one-move speech) You reconstruct:  “I give you the only liberty you have left.”  This is not verbatim Livy, but it perfectly captures the logic.  Structure (Gricean)  Utterance type: minimal, almost non-dialogical Audience: Virginia (restricted addressee) Intention:  not to inform but to authorize / justify an act      So it is:  a performative utterance with suppressed explanation   Why private? You are exactly right:  the act is:  socially legible   but the reasoning:  indecent to spell out publicly      So:  privacy protects the moral intelligibility of the act    2.  Scenario II: Virginio → crowd (display of the corpse) This is your most original insight, and it maps beautifully onto Grice.  The act:  Virginio displays Virginia’s body no speech required   Grice comparison: You mention:  “Salome displays the head of John” → possibly “nothing meant”    Here, reversed:  CaseMeaningSalomeambiguous / aesthetic / ritualVirginiomaximally intentional   Virginio’s act is:  purely communicative violence   Structure elementfunctioncorpsesigndisplayutteranceaudienceRoman people / soldierseffectoutrage → revolution   This is exactly what Grice calls:  protrepsis (urging, moving to action)    3. Does Virginio “mean” something? Absolutely—and in a very strong Gricean sense.  Speaker meaning: Virginio intends that:  audience recognize his intention namely: → “this is what tyranny forces upon us”    So:  the act satisfies Grice’s condition: intended recognition of intention    In fact, more than speech:  it makes misunderstanding almost impossible    4. Speech vs act (key contrast)  ModeVirginia episodespeechminimal, insufficientactdecisive, maximal   So:  action replaces language when language is corrupted (by Appius’ court)    5. Your “causability” caveat You say:  not necessarily causable  Exactly:  Virginio does not cause revolt mechanically but:  makes revolt intelligible and inevitable      So:  the act is normatively forceful, not causally deterministic    6. Italian opera / melodramma? Here we must be precise:  the Virginia story was dramatized in antiquity and later literature but:   There is no well-known canonical Italian opera (libretto tradition like Verdi) built directly on Virginia comparable to, say:  Coriolanus (through Shakespeare/Plutarch) Lucretia (much more popular operatic subject)    However:  the story belongs to a cluster of Roman virtus narratives elements (honour killing, tyranny, female virtue) → definitely influenced operatic and tragic traditions    I should be cautious here:  there are literary adaptations, but sources do not clearly confirm a major canonical Italian opera     Final synthesis  The Virginia episode contains two distinct communicative structures: a minimal private utterance (to Virginia) and a powerful public act (display of the body). The latter functions as a paradigmatic case of non-verbal intentional meaning, in which action replaces speech and produces decisive political uptake. In Gricean terms, the act is a form of protrepsis, designed not merely to express a state but to bring about recognition and response in the audience.    One-line conclusion (your idiom):  Virginio says almost nothing—but by showing the body he says everything, and makes Rome understand what cannot be spoken.   If you like, we could compare this directly with Lucretia—the closest parallel, where speech, action, and political effect form a very similar triad. Yes, the tragic Roman story of Virginia, her father Virginio, her fiancé Icilio, and the corrupt decemvir Appio Claudio (who used his client Marco Claudio to falsely claim Virginia as a slave) has been heavily treated by Italian librettists. [1, 2]  This classic historical episode from Livy's Ab Urbe Condita—where a father kills his daughter to save her virtue, sparking a rebellion that overthrew the Decemvirate—was a highly popular subject in Italian opera, especially during the 18th and 19th centuries. [1, 2, 3, 4] Prominent Italian Libretti on the Decemvir Episode The narrative has been adapted into several major Italian opera libretti: Salvadore Cammarano: One of the most famous Italian librettists of the 19th century (widely known for writing Lucia di Lammermoor), he penned the libretto for Virginia (1850). The music was composed by Saverio Mercadante. Cammarano based his text directly on the celebrated Italian tragedy Virginia by Vittorio Alfieri. Due to its themes of a popular uprising against a tyrannical government, the Bourbon censors banned it. It finally premiered at the Teatro di San Carlo in Naples in 1866. [1, 2] Silvio Stampiglia: A highly influential early 18th-century librettist, he wrote La caduta de' Decemviri(The Fall of the Decemvirs). This libretto features all the exact historical figures you mentioned, including Appio Claudio, Lucio Virginio, Virginia, and Icilio. It was most famously set to music by the prominent Baroque composer Alessandro Scarlatti and premiered in Naples in 1697. [1, 2] Domenico Bancalari: He wrote an Italian libretto titled Virginia, which was set to music by the Venezuelan composer José Ángel Montero. Premiering in 1873, it is celebrated as the first opera ever composed in Venezuela, yet written entirely in the traditional Italian libretto style. [1] Fello Giuliani: He authored another 19th-century Italian libretto titled Virginia, which was set to music by composer Niccola Vaccaj and published around 1840. [1] Summary of Operatic Characters & Roles In these Italian libretti, the dramatic conflict closely tracks the ancient Roman account: [1] Appio Claudio: The tyrannical antagonist and chief of the Decemvirs. Virginia: The tragic, virtuous heroine. Virginio (Lucius Virginius): Her heroic father, a centurion who stabs her to protect her freedom. Icilio: Virginia's passionate fiancé and former tribune who rouses the public against the tyrant. Marco Claudio: The client used by Appio to falsely claim Virginia as his runaway slave. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Would you like more details on a specific composer's musical setting of this story, or do you want to explore how the plot changes between Alfieri's original play and Cammarano's opera libretto? Has this below help? Yes, the tragic Roman story of Virginia, her father Virginio, her fiancé Icilio, and the corrupt decemvir Appio Claudio (who used his client Marco Claudio to falsely claim Virginia as a slave) has been heavily treated by Italian librettists. [1, 2] This classic historical episode from Livy's Ab Urbe Condita—where a father kills his daughter to save her virtue, sparking a rebellion that overthrew the Decemvirate—was a highly popular subject in Italian opera, especially during the 18th and 19th centuries. [1, 2, 3, 4] Prominent Italian Libretti on the Decemvir Episode The narrative has been adapted into several major Italian opera libretti: Salvadore Cammarano: One of the most famous Italian librettists of the 19th century (widely known for writing Lucia di Lammermoor), he penned the libretto for Virginia (1850). The music was composed by Saverio Mercadante. Cammarano based his text directly on the celebrated Italian tragedy Virginia by Vittorio Alfieri. Due to its themes of a popular uprising against a tyrannical government, the Bourbon censors banned it. It finally premiered at the Teatro di San Carlo in Naples in 1866. [1, 2] Silvio Stampiglia: A highly influential early 18th-century librettist, he wrote La caduta de' Decemviri(The Fall of the Decemvirs). This libretto features all the exact historical figures you mentioned, including Appio Claudio, Lucio Virginio, Virginia, and Icilio. It was most famously set to music by the prominent Baroque composer Alessandro Scarlatti and premiered in Naples in 1697. [1, 2] Domenico Bancalari: He wrote an Italian libretto titled Virginia, which was set to music by the Venezuelan composer José Ángel Montero. Premiering in 1873, it is celebrated as the first opera ever composed in Venezuela, yet written entirely in the traditional Italian libretto style. [1] Fello Giuliani: He authored another 19th-century Italian libretto titled Virginia, which was set to music by composer Niccola Vaccaj and published around 1840. [1] Summary of Operatic Characters & Roles In these Italian libretti, the dramatic conflict closely tracks the ancient Roman account: [1] Appio Claudio: The tyrannical antagonist and chief of the Decemvirs. Virginia: The tragic, virtuous heroine. Virginio (Lucius Virginius): Her heroic father, a centurion who stabs her to protect her freedom. Icilio: Virginia's passionate fiancé and former tribune who rouses the public against the tyrant. Marco Claudio: The client used by Appio to falsely claim Virginia as his runaway slave. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Would you like more details on a specific composer's musical setting of this story, or do you want to explore how the plot changes between Alfieri's original play and Cammarano's opera libretto? Yes—this material helps a lot, and it confirms your instinct in a very strong way: the Virginia episode is not only Grice‑friendly (in your two‑scenario sense), but it is also one of the most operatically “speakable” episodes in Livy, precisely because it sits on the edge between speech and action. Let me tie together three things:  1.  You are right: the story was heavily operatized The evidence you found is solid:  Mercadante / Cammarano (Virginia, 1850 → staged 1866) Stampiglia (La caduta de’ Decemviri) multiple later libretti  All explicitly draw on:  Livy → Alfieri → opera tradition [en.wikipedia.org]    Why it attracted librettists Because it already contains:  courtroom scene tyrant vs innocent love (Virginia–Icilio) climactic irreversible act (the killing) immediate political revolution    In your terms:  it is already a drama of communicative breakdown    2.  What opera does to Livy (crucial difference) Librettists systematically expand oratio recta.  Livy:  sparse speech decisive acts meaning inferred   Opera:  amplifies:  dialogue aria explicit motives     Example changes:  in some versions:  Virginia kills herself   Icilio may:  die, plead, or incite revolt   Appius:  sings out his desire   Virginio:  justifies, laments, commands     These are not in Livy, but arise from the need to make implicature explicit on stage.   So:  opera = explication of Livy’s compression    3. Your Gricean model fits opera perfectly Now your two scenarios map beautifully onto operatic structure:  (A) Private utterance (Virginio → Virginia) In Livy:  minimal almost silent   In opera:  becomes:  aria duet explicit articulation:  honour vs life        So:  the “one-move conversation” becomes a full speech-act sequence    (B) Public display (Virginio → crowd) In Livy:  corpse shown revolt follows   In opera:  becomes:  chorus reaction collective lament uprising ensemble      Your insight:  this is protrepsis  is exactly right.  Operatically:  corpse = stage object chorus = audience-internal    So:  the action becomes a visible utterance to be received    4. Does the act “mean” something? Your formulation is perfect:  not merely exhibiting, but intending an effect    In Livy:  causal chain:  act → recognition → revolt      In Gricean terms:  Virginio intends:  that audience recognize:  injustice     and respond    That is:  full-blooded communicative intention    5. One refinement (important) You said:  not necessarily causable  Exactly—and this is crucial.  The act is:  not mechanically causal but:  normatively binding      That’s why in both:  Livy opera  the crowd’s reaction appears:  inevitable—but not coerced     Final synthesis  The Virginia story was indeed a major subject of Italian librettists, who developed it precisely because its structure—minimal speech plus decisive action—lends itself to dramatic expansion. [en.wikipedia.org] Livy’s compressed narrative, where meaning is conveyed largely through action (especially the killing and display of the body), becomes in opera an explicit sequence of speeches, arias, and choruses that articulate the underlying moral and emotional logic. Your Gricean distinction holds perfectly: a private, minimal utterance and a public, protreptic act—the latter functioning as a paradigmatic case of meaning conveyed through action rather than language.    One-line conclusion (your idiom):  Livy leaves Virginio almost silent, but opera makes him speak—because what he does already says too much not to be sung.   If you like, we could compare this directly with Lucrezia (another heavily operatized Livian episode), where suicide rather than paternal killing plays the same communicative role.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Virgilio: la ragione conversazionale e la leggenda d’Enea a Roma. Grice: “We English have Beowulf; the Romans have V.! Note su Tityre, tu patulae recubans sub tegmine fagi. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Publio Vergilio Virgilio Marone (Andes, Pietola, Mantova). Institutionally, there is almost no comparison in the ordinary sense. H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford don: Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s, and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. That means a dual place in a college tutorial system and a faculty-wide university structure. Publius Vergilius Maro is not “comparable” to that arrangement at all, because he is not a college fellow, not a tutorial don, and not a university lecturer. He is a Roman poet of the Augustan age, born at Andes near Mantua in 70 BC and dead in 19 BC, whose institutional world is patronage, literary circles, recitation, and elite Roman cultural life, not a university. Standard biographical sources place Virgil at Andes near Mantua, with the Eclogues or Bucolics as his earliest securely datable major work, usually composed in the years around 42 to 39 BC. [en.wikipedia.org], [encyclopedia.com], [unrv.com] So the clean answer to your opening question is this. Grice belongs to a modern university institution. Virgil belongs to a literary and patronal institution. Grice is a don. Virgil is a poet. That said, intellectually your comparison is not absurd at all, and indeed it is quite fertile if one keeps the categories clean. Grice provides a theory of how a hearer rationally gets from what is said to what is meant. Virgil gives us a poem that constantly forces readers and internal audiences to do exactly that: infer from speeches, silences, delays, decorum, and framing what a character really means, or what the poem wants us to conclude beyond the explicit words. [en.wikipedia.org], [jstor.org] So if you want the sharpest formulation, I would say this. Grice analyses the micro-mechanics of implicature in ordinary conversation. Virgil stages those mechanics dramatically and rhetorically inside epic. That is why your Aeneas and Dido example works. Dido’s speeches are not just locutions; they are acts of reproach, accusation, appeal, and self-display. Aeneas’s replies are not just statements of fact; they are constrained justifications whose insufficiency is part of their meaning. The reader is constantly made to infer what is not said outright about pietas, duty, evasion, violence, and emotional remainder. The rhetorical tradition has long treated Virgil’s speeches as models of eloquence, and late antique commentators explicitly read the Aeneid through rhetorical categories. [jstor.org], [cambridge.org] That means your phrase “large-scale conversation” is actually apt, provided it is not made to sound too modern. The Aeneid is not a theory of conversational meaning, but it is a poem in which meaning is repeatedly produced by strategically controlled under-saying and by audience-guided inference. In that respect, Virgil gives us the literary exploitation of something like what Grice later analyses philosophically. [en.wikipedia.org], [jstor.org] Your rhetoric material is also broadly sound. Ancient and late antique readers did indeed treat Virgil as an orator as well as a poet. Macrobius is central to that line, and later rhetorical commentary strongly emphasised the speeches in the Aeneid. Tiberius Claudius Donatus in particular reads the poem as rhetorical advocacy for Aeneas, to the point that modern scholarship has aptly spoken of “Virgil in the courtroom.” [cambridge.org], [jstor.org], [en.wikipedia.org] So if you want the judicial point more sharply: Donatus treats the Aeneid almost as a sustained defence brief on behalf of Aeneas. That is very close to your thought that the reader becomes a juror. Two smaller corrections, though. First, “Publio Vergilio Virgilio Marone” should be simplified. The standard form is Publius Vergilius Maro, or in Italian Publio Virgilio Marone. You do not want both “Vergilio” and “Virgilio” stacked together. Second, for the earliest datable work, your A.U.C. arithmetic is fine if you want the Eclogues as the first secure major item. But it is better to say approximately DCCXII to DCCXV A.U.C. for the Eclogues or Bucolics, corresponding roughly to 42 to 39 BC, rather than pretend to a single exact year. The standard biographical and literary sources place the composition of the Eclogues in the period around 42 to 39 BC. [en.wikipedia.org], [encyclopedia.com], [unrv.com] So the compact comparison I would give is this. H. P. Grice was a modern Oxford philosopher with a dual institutional role, college tutor and university lecturer, working in the tutorial culture of reason-giving and live objection. Virgil, by contrast, was an Augustan poet formed not by a university but by literary patronage and Roman rhetorical culture. Institutionally they are worlds apart. Intellectually, however, the comparison is illuminating: Grice explains how an audience can rationally infer what a speaker means beyond what is said, whereas Virgil repeatedly makes readers perform that very inferential labour in the speeches and silences of the Aeneid, especially in scenes such as Aeneas and Dido, where rhetoric, decorum, and under-saying do as much work as explicit statement. [en.wikipedia.org], [jstor.org], [cambridge.org], [jstor.org], [en.wikipedia.org] If you want, I can now compress that into a shorter entry-style paragraph in your own register, with the A.U.C. dating line included and the institutional contrast stated in one sentence.Con V. la ragione conversazionale si manifesta nela leggenda d’Enea a Roma.” Grice/Virgil comparison (reason-governed conversational meaning). Grice’s theory treats conversational meaning as a rational, audience-directed achievement: what a speaker means is fixed by intentions meant to be recognized, and by the hearer’s capacity to infer (under cooperative constraints) what is implicated beyond what is said. Read that way, Virgil’s Aeneid can be seen as a large-scale “conversation” conducted through staged speeches, replies, and strategic silences: Aeneas’ public utterances, Dido’s reproaches, and the poem’s narratorial framing routinely invite the reader to recover more than the literal locution—e.g., the difference between Aeneas’ explicit justification and what he thereby communicates about pietas, necessity, and emotional cost. The key contrast is that Grice offers an abstract account of how rational agents generate implicature in ordinary talk, whereas Virgil exemplifies how rhetorical form (judicial defense, invective, encomium) engineers inference in an audience: the poem is not a treatise on intention-recognition, but it constantly exploits thsame inferential gap Grice theorizes—using decorum, relevance, and controlled informativeness to make readers supply what is not said outright, and to evaluate characters as if they were interlocutors accountable to reasons. Epilogue (in Grice’s voice), with idiomatic wording and a B.C. date plus the a.u.c. citation line. I recall Hardie being horrified when I put a date on the Ethica Nicomachea. “Surely,” he said, “the Stagirite never heard of the Anointed on the Cross.” “So what date shall I use then, sir?” “Livy’s Ab urbe condita—that’s the safest.” And so I did. It became: Aristoteles (a.u.c. 650; 104 B.C.), Ethica Nicomachea. Grice: “We English have Beowulf; the Romans have V.!  In both classical and Italian Renaissance traditions, V.’s ENEIDE is treated as a supreme text book of rhetoric, with specific passages cited to illustrate emotional persuasion, pathos, stylistic variety, and ethical defense. Critics like Quintilian, Servio, and Macrobio, frequently analyse V.'s work to identify standard rhetorical devices and structures.  Aeneas vs. Dido is a locus classicus for rhetorical study. Rhetoricians analyse Dido’s speech as an example of invective and pathos, while Aeneas’s response is often framed as a controversia, legal-style debate, where he justifies his departure to avoid charges of ingratitude. In Saturnalia, MACROBIO uses various passages by V. to define the four styles of eloquence, viewing V. as a master orator who persuades through narrative texture. Encomium or Praise, Servio analyses the proem of Georgics and specific lines in Eneide, the praise of the Marcellus, as examples of epideictic rhetoric, designed to elevate the subject matter and win over the audience. Italian philosophers often view the ENEIDE as a single long oration designed to praise ENEA and his descendants, known as macro-rhetoricising.  Maffeo VEGIO, an Italian humanist, extends this tradition of reading the ENEIDE as an extended encomium of the hero. While primarily a poet, ALIGHIERI’s portrayal of V. in the Divine Comedy solidifies V.’s role as the embodiment of human reason and the supreme master of poetic high style, influencing how Italian rhetoricians approach V.'s structure and ethics. Commentaries often stress the ethical dimensions of V.’s speeches. For instance, Tiberio Claudio DONATO ’s interpretations, highly influential in the Renaissance, recast the poem as a judicial defense of Aeneas, turning the reader into a juror. Passages such as "Parcere subiectis et debellare superbos -- Eneide: To spare the conquered and crush the proud -- catabasi. G.  Sir, I’ve done the assignment. T.  Naturally you have. You are the sort of boy who treats homework as if it were fate. Now: whom have you been tracing? G.  Publius Vergilius Maro. T.  Vergilio. G.  Vergilius. T.  Vergilio, Mr G. It is the Italianate form. It is more civilised. C.  (from the back) Sir speaks Italian to Latin. T.  Silence. Now, Mr G., what is the earliest work by Vergilio? G.  That depends on what you mean by “work,” sir. T.  I mean what I always mean: something he wrote that one may date without blushing. G.  Then: the Eclogae. The Bucolica. T.  Eclogae. Good. And when? G.  The earliest composition is usually put around 42 to 39 BC. T.  Usually put. That is a phrase for men who are not sure. G.  Nobody is sure, sir. They are poets. T.  Poets are perfectly sure; it is the scholars who are not. Now, Mr G., I asked for a date, and I asked you for it in ab urbe condita. G.  Yes, sir. T.  So: compute. G.  If 753 BC is AUC 1, then 42 BC is AUC 712. T.  Show the class. G.  AUC year equals 754 minus the BC year. So, 754 − 42 equals 712. C.  He makes it sound like arithmetic is Latin. T.  Arithmetic is more reliable than Latin. Continue. G.  If we want 39 BC, then 754 − 39 equals 715. T.  So the range is DCCXII to DCCXV A.U.C. G.  Yes, sir. T.  Put it in Roman numerals clearly. Not in the weak modern manner. G.  DCCXII–DCCXV A.U.C. T.  Excellent. Now say the title, as a Roman would. G.  Bucolica. T.  As Vergilio would. G.  Bucolica. Or Eclogae. T.  Now the name again. Vergilio. G.  Vergilius. C.  (murmurs) He’s going to die on that hill. T.  Mr G., why do you insist on Vergilius? G.  Because that is what he is called in Latin, sir. T.  He is called Vergilio because he deserves it. G.  Deserves the dative? C.  (laughter) T.  You see, boys? Mr G. is witty. It will ruin him. Now: why do you think the Eclogae come first? G.  Because the Georgica are later, and the Aeneid later still. T.  Later is not a reason. It is a timetable. G.  The Eclogae were written before he had the confidence to build Rome out of hexameters. T.  That is almost respectable. Now: can you give me a single year in AUC? G.  If forced: DCCXIII A.U.C. for the early Eclogues. T.  Forced indeed. And do you know why I want AUC? G.  Because you want us to feel that Rome is counting. T.  Exactly. And because it disciplines your imagination. “BC” is Christian; AUC is Roman; and we are reading a Roman. C.  But sir says Vergilio. T.  Because I am a Roman who has travelled. Now: Mr G., what is the earliest item by Vergilio that is not merely “pastoral”? G.  Some would point to the Appendix Vergiliana, but its attribution is doubtful. T.  Doubtful is another word for cowardice. G.  Doubtful is a word for scholarship, sir. T.  Do not be impudent. Yet you are right. The Appendix is a swamp. We will stay on firm ground. G.  On pasture, sir. C.  (laughter) T.  Enough. Now: recite how you would write the bibliographic line, as if you were a Roman librarian. G.  Vergilius Maro, Publius. DCCXII–DCCXV A.U.C. Bucolica (Eclogae). T.  And if I insist on my form? G.  Vergilio. DCCXII–DCCXV A.U.C. Bucoliche. T.  You see? Even you cannot keep the language straight. That is why we study Latin: to learn restraint. G.  Or to learn how to argue about vowels. T.  Exactly. Now, last question: why is the class laughing? G.  Because they can see I am being corrected for being correct. T.  No. They are laughing because “Vergilio” is easier to shout than “Vergilius,” and because they enjoy watching a clever boy be made to conjugate humility. C.  Conjugate humility, sir? T.  Yes. First person singular: I am wrong. Second person: you are wrong. Third person: Mr G. is wrong. G.  (deadpan) Plural: we are wrong, sir. T.  At last, Mr G., you’ve produced a perfect agreement in Latin.Grice: O Vergili, quoties apud Cliftonium carmina tua recitabantur, lacrimae mihi saepe in oculos ascendebant; vox illa “arma virumque” quasi me ipsum tetigit. Vergilius: Benigne ais, Paule; si versus mei lacrimas movent, non dolor solus est, sed pietas—memoria laboris et spei. Grice: Id ipsum: in Aenea video rationem quasi “conversationalem”—non tantum loquentem, sed respondentem: Didoni, fato, populo; et rhetorica ibi non ornatus, sed vis ad animos flectendos. Vergilius: Recte; nam tota Aeneis velut oratio longa est: pathos et iudicium, accusatio et defensio; “parcere subiectis et debellare superbos” non solum dictum est, sed norma vivendi. Virgilio Marone, Publio (DCCXII–DCCXV A. V. C.). Tityre, tu patulae recubans sub tegmine fagi. Roma

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vipsanio – Ossia: Grice e Vipsanio – grex griceiana – Vipsanio -- H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VIPSANIO  Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa approves the construction of the Aqua Virgo. The gens Vipsania or Vipsana was an obscure plebeian family of equestrian rank at ancient Rome. Few members of this gens appear in history, although a number are known from inscriptions. By far the most illustrious of the family was Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, a close friend and adviser of Augustus, whom the emperor intended to make his heir. After Agrippa died, Augustus adopted his friend's sons, each of whom was considered a possible heir to the Empire, but when each of them died or proved unsuitable, Augustus chose another heir, the future emperor Tiberius.[1]  Origin The Vipsanii are not mentioned in history until the very end of the Republic. Their nomen, Vipsanius, resembles other gentilicia ending in -anius, which were typically derived from place names or cognomina ending in -anus. Several inscriptions give the name as Vipsanus, perhaps the original form of the nomen. According to some scholars, the gens Vipsania was originally from Pisae in Etruria.[2][3]  Praenomina The only praenomina associated with the main family of the Vipsanii were Lucius and Marcus, two of the most common names throughout Roman history. Vipsanii named Gaius, Publius, Quintus, Sextus, and Titus are known from inscriptions and coins.[4]  Branches and cognomina Only one distinct family of the Vipsanii appears in history, with the cognomen Agrippa. This was originally a praenomen, used by a few families of the early Republic, including the patrician Furii and Menenii, but by the end of the Republic it seems to have been used exclusively as a cognomen. Its origin and meaning were obscure even in antiquity; the most familiar explanation was that it was one of many praenomina derived from the circumstances of childbirth, and referred to a child delivered feet-first.[i][5][6][7][8][9][10]  Members This list includes abbreviated praenomina. For an explanation of this practice, see filiation. Lucius Vipsanius, the father of Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa. Lucius Vipsanius L. f., the brother of Marcus Agrippa, served under Cato the Younger against Caesar during the Civil War. Vipsania L. f. Polla, the sister of Marcus Agrippa, completed the Porticus Vipsania after her brother's death.[11] Marcus Vipsanius, a man mentioned by Suetonius who criticised the language of the Aeneid, and called Vergil a bastard of Maecenas. Some identify this individual as the general Marcus Agrippa.[ii] Marcus Vipsanius Atticus, a rhetorician of the first century BC, sometimes conjectured to be the son of Agrippa. Marcus Vipsanius Gallicanus, a grandson of one of Augustus' freedmen.[21] Marcus Vipsanius M. l. Clemens, freedman and impostor of Agrippa Postumus. Vipsanius Laenas, governor of Sardinia, was condemned in AD 56 on a charge of repetundae, maladministration of his province.[22] Vipsanii Agrippae Marcus Vipsanius L. f. Agrippa, the friend and trusted lieutenant of Augustus, distinguished himself in the Perusine War, against the Chatti, Sextus Pompeius, and at the Battle of Actium. He was consul in 37, 28, and 27 BC, and as aedile in 33 and subsequently repaired and constructed a number of important public works. His first wife was Attica, the daughter of Titus Pomponius Atticus; about 28 BC he married Augustus' niece, Marcella, and in 21 the emperor had him divorce Marcella and marry his daughter, Julia. He died unexpectedly in 12 BC.[23][24][25][26][1] Vipsania M. f. L. n., a daughter of Agrippa by his first wife, Attica, married Quintus Haterius. Vipsania M. f. L. n. Agrippina, a daughter of Agrippa by his first wife, Attica. Her first husband was Tiberius Claudius Nero, by whom she became the mother of Drusus, but Augustus ordered their divorce, so that Tiberius could marry Julia. Vipsania then married Gaius Asinius Gallus, consul in 8 BC.[27][28][29] Vipsania M. f. L. n. Marcella, a daughter of Agrippa by his second wife, Marcella, married Publius Quinctilius Varus. Vipsania M. f. L. n. Marcella, a daughter of Agrippa by his second wife, Marcella, married Marcus Aemilius Lepidus. Gaius Vipsanius M. f. L. n. Agrippa, the elder son of Agrippa and Julia, was adopted by Augustus in his father's lifetime, becoming Gaius Julius Caesar. He was consul in AD 1, together with his brother-in-law, Lucius Aemilius Paullus, but was already in Asia, where he remained to oppose the Parthians. He was wounded while taking possession of Armenia, and never fully recovered, dying at Limyra in Lycia in AD 4.[30][31][32][33][34][35] Vipsania M. f. L. n. Julia, the elder daughter of Agrippa and Julia, commonly known as Julia the Younger, married Lucius Aemilius Paullus, consul in AD 1. She may have been the inspiration for the Corinna of Ovid's Amores. In AD 8, she was banished to the island of Tremerus, ostensibly for an affair with the senator Decimus Junius Silanus, but possibly because her husband had conspired against the emperor. She died in exile in 28.[36][37][38][39] Lucius Vipsanius M. f. L. n. Agrippa, the second son of Agrippa and Julia, was adopted in infancy by Augustus, becoming Lucius Julius Caesar. He and his brother, Gaius, were meant to be the emperor's heirs, but Lucius died at Massilia in AD 2, while traveling to Spain, and his brother died in AD 4, leaving Augustus to choose between their younger brother, Marcus, and his son-in-law, Tiberius. Vipsania M. f. L. n. Julia Agrippina, or Agrippina the Elder, the younger daughter of Agrippa and Julia, married Germanicus, the nephew and intended heir of Tiberius, but after his death in AD 19, she was regarded with suspicion by the emperor, who banished her and her two elder sons, Nero and Drusus, to the Pontine Islands, where they died. Her third son, Gaius, succeeded Tiberius; her daughter, Agrippina, was the fourth wife of Claudius and the mother of Nero.[40][41][42] Marcus Vipsanius M. f. L. n. Agrippa Postumus,[iii] the youngest son of Agrippa and Julia, was born after his father's death in 12 BC, and adopted by Augustus in AD 4, becoming Marcus Julius Caesar Agrippa Postumus. He was later banished to the island of Planasia on account of his violent temperament. There he was murdered after the accession of Tiberius, in order to forestall any possibility of a revolt in his name.[43][44][45][46] Publius Vipsanius Agrippa, duumvir of Corinth during the reign of Caligula. Possibly a member of Marcus Agrippa's family.[47] Vipsanii from inscriptions Marcus Vipsanius Lamyrus, a little boy buried at Rome, aged four, in a tomb dating to the latter half of the first century BC.[48] Marcus Vipsanius Longinus, buried at Rome, aged thirty, in a tomb dating to the latter half of the first century BC.[48] Vipsania M. M. l. Acume, a freedwoman of Agrippa.[49] Marcus Vipsanius Agrippae l. Antiochus Sittianus, a freedman of Agrippa, buried at Rome in a sepulchre built by Flavia Acme for herself, Antiochus, and Marcus Vipsanius Troilus.[50] Marcus Vipsanius Fortunatus, perhaps a freedman of Agrippa, received a pot from Astracalus, Agrippa's lapidarius, or jeweler.[51] Vipsania Agrippae l. Martha, a freedwoman of Agrippa.[52] Marcus Vipsanius Salvius, perhaps a freedman of Agrippa, received a pot from Astracalus.[51] Vipsania M. l. Stibas, a freedwoman of the household of Agrippa, for whom Marcus Vipsanius Zoticus dedicated several pots at Rome.[53] Marcus Vipsanius M. l. Zoticus, a freedman of the household of Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, dedicated a series of pots at Rome for himself and his conliberta, Vipsania Stibas.[53][49] Marcus Vipsanius Agrippae l. Troilus Sittianus, a freedman of Agrippa, buried in a sepulchre built by Flavia Acme for herself, Troilus, and Marcus Vipsanius Antiochus.[50] Marcus Vipsanius, buried at Rome in the late first century BC, or early first century AD.[54] Vipsania Ɔ. l. Cyclas, a freedwoman buried at Rome, in a tomb dating to the late first century BC, or early first century AD.[55] Marcus Vipsanus Macedo, mentioned in an inscription from Rome, naming his "brother", Cyrus, dating from the late first century BC, or early first century AD.[56] Marcus Vipsanius M. l. Nedymo, a freedman named in an inscription from Rome, dating to the late first century BC, or early first century AD.[57] Vipsania Fructa, dedicated a tomb at Rome for her sister, Vipsania Jucunda, dating to the late first century BC, or the early first century AD.[58] Marcus Vipsanius Hilarus, the patron of Lais, a freedwoman, who dedicated a monument in his honour, dating to the late first century BC, or the early first century AD.[59] Vipsania Jucunda, buried at Rome, aged twelve, with a monument from her sister, Vipsania Fructa, dating to the late first century BC, or early first century AD.[58] Marcus Vipsanius Calamus, one of the tentori, or animal handlers, at the estate of Titus Attius Capito, named in an inscription dating from the reign of Augustus.[60] Marcus Vipsanius Dareus, one of the tentori of Titus Attius Capito.[60] Marcus Vipsanius Faustus, one of the charioteers of Titus Attius Capito.[60] Marcus Vipsanius Micio Docimus, the steward of Titus Attius Capito's estate.[60] Sextus Vipsanius M. f. Clemens, one of the magistrates at Verona in Venetia and Histria in 1 BC.[61] Marcus Vipsanius Narcissus, apparently an actor who had fallen on hard times, and become a rogator, or beggar, according to an early first-century inscription from Rome.[62] Marcus Vipsania Papa, a freedman of Agrippina.[63] Marcus Vipsanius Thales, a freedman of Agrippina, together with his foster-brother, Chryses, dedicated a tomb at Rome for the latter's brother Celeris, the son of Gallus, dating to the early first century.[64] Vipsanius Novellus, dedicated a tomb at Cirta in Numidia, dating between the reign of Augustus and the reign of Trajan, for Crescensgentia, the daughter of Cristenus, aged two.[65] Vipsania Fausta, dedicated a tomb at Rome for Tiberius Julius Antiochus, dating to the final years of Augustus.[66] Marcus Vipsanius, a freedman of Agrippa or perhaps Agrippina, named in an inscription from Rome, along with Antistia Fac[...], dating from the first half of the first century.[67] Marcus Vipsanius, named in a sepulchral inscription from Aquileia in Venetia and Histria, dating from the first half of the first century.[68] Vipsania M. l. Eucalio, a freedwoman, named along with her mother, Vipsania Rufa, in an inscription from Rome, dating to the first half of the first century.[69] Vipsania M. Ɔ. l. Fortunata, a freedwoman named in an inscription from Rome, dating from the first half of the first century.[70] Marcus Vipsanius Sp. f. Gallicanus, the grandson of Gaius Julius Libanus, a freedman of the emperor, was buried at Rome, aged thirty-five, in a tomb dating to the first half of the first century.[71] Vipsania Hilara, dedicated a tomb at Rome for her husband, Vipsanius Spinther, dating from the first half of the first century.[72] Marcus Vipsanius Isochrysus, a boy buried at Rome, aged eight years, two months, and eighteen days, in a tomb dating from the first half of the first century.[73] Vipsanius Marius, named in a sepulchral inscription from Rome, dating from the first half of the first century.[74] Vipsanius Musaeus, the former master of Vipsania Thalassa.[75] Vipsania M. l. Rufa, a freedwoman, named along with her daughter, Vipsania Eucalio, in an inscription from Rome dating to the first half of the first century.[69] Vipsanius Spinther, buried at Rome in a tomb dedicated by his wife, Vipsania Hilara, dating to the first half of the first century.[72] Vipsania Thalassa, the freedwoman of Vipsanius Musaeus, built a tomb in an uncertain province for herself and Tiberius Claudius Epictetus, a freedman of the emperor.[75] Vipsania Urbana, named in an inscription from Rome, dating to the first half of the first century.[76] Vipsania Psyllis, dedicated a monument at Rome for her husband, Seleucus, the freedman of Asinius Pollio, dating between AD 30 and 50.[77] Marcus Vipsanius Primigenius, a bronze worker at Abellinum in Campania during the late first century BC, or early first century AD.[78] Vipsanius, the owner of an estate at Fundi in Latium during the first half of the first century.[79] Vipsania, buried in a first-century tomb at Salona in Dalmatia, along with Quintus Terentius Seleucianus.[80] Marcus Vipsanius Alexander, named in a first-century inscription from Rome.[81] Marcus Vipsanius Anoptes, buried in a first-century tomb at Rome.[82] Vipsania M. l. Aucta, a freedwoman buried in a first-century tomb at Rome.[83] Vipsanius Celer, dedicated a first-century tomb at Rome for his wife, Junia Sympherusa, aged twenty-three.[84] Quintus Vipsanus Colonus, known from a first-century sepulchral inscription from Aquileia in Venetia and Histria.[85] Marcus Vipsanius Dama, named in a first-century inscription from Ostia in Latium.[86] Vipsania Euposia, the mother of Vipsania Fortunata, whom she buried in a first-century family sepulchre at Rome, along with Vipsania Philusa and Marcus Vipsanius Latinus.[87] Vipsania Fortunata, the daughter of Vipsania Euposia, buried in a first-century family sepulchre at Rome, aged nineteen years, ten months, and ten hours, along with Vipsania Philusa and Marcus Vipsanius Latinus.[87] Marcus Vipsanius Sex. f. Latinus, buried in a first-century family sepulchre at Rome, aged one, along with Vipsania Philusa and Vipsania Fortunata.[87] Vipsania M. l. Philusa, buried in a first-century family sepulchre at Rome, aged twenty, along with Marcus Vipsanius Latinus and Vipsania Fortunata.[87] Vipsania Quinta, buried in a first-century tomb at Simitthus in Africa Proconsularis, aged thirty-two.[88] Marcus Vipsanius M. l. Ap[...], a freedman named in an inscription from Herculaneum, dating between AD 60 and 79.[89] Vipsanius Eunus, buried at Rome, aged forty-five, in a tomb dedicated by his wife, dating from the reign of Domitian.[90] Marcus Vipsanus M. l. Faustus, a freedman named in a dedicatory inscription from Flanona in Dalmatia, dating from the first century, or the first half of the second.[91] Vipsanius Peregrinus, mentioned in an inscription from Casilinum in Campania, dating from the first century, or the first half of the second, had been quaestor and aedile.[92] Marcus Vipsanius M. f. Secundus Melo, a soldier in the century of Lutatius, in the fifth cohort of the praetorian guard, was buried at Rome, aged twenty-seven, having served for nine years, in a tomb dating from the latter half of the first century, or the early part of the second.[93] Vipsania M. f. Silana, built a sepulchre at Iader in Dalmatia, dating between the middle of the first century and the first half of the second, for her husband, the freedman Quintus Feresius Spiculus, and daughter, Feresia Tertulla, aged twenty-four.[94] Vipsanius Marcellus, master of the slave Theseus, buried at Regium Julium in Bruttium, aged seventeen, in a tomb dating to the latter half of the first century.[95] Marcus Vipsanius Clemens, made a substantial donation to a temple at Leptis Magna in Africa Proconsularis during the late first century.[96] Vipsanius Felix, dedicated a late first- or early second-century tomb at Ostia for his freedman and his wife, Plaria Tyche.[97] Vipsania Primigenia, buried at Rome in a family sepulchre dedicated by her husband, Titus Flavius Magnus, and dating to the late first or early second century.[98] Vipsanius Atticus, buried at Catina in Sicilia, in a tomb dating to the latter half of the first century, or the first half of the second.[99] Vipsania M. f. Priscilla, a woman buried at Neviodunum in Pannonia Superior, along with her husband, Quintus Annaeus Crispus, aged seventy, and son, Annaeus Colonus, aged fifteen, in a tomb dedicated by her son, Quintus Annaeus Verus, dating to the late first century, or the first half of the second.[100] Lucius Vipsanus Secundus, dedicated a tomb at Aequum Tuticum in Samnium, dating from the late first century, or the first half of the second, for his wife, Veneria, and their family.[101] Vipsania Atticilla, buried at Augusta Emerita in Lusitania, aged twenty-eight, with a monument from her husband, Marcus Ulpius Lupus, a freedman of the emperor.[102] Marcus Vipsanus Daphnus, buried in a second-century tomb at Rome, dedicated by his daughter, Cornelia.[103] Marcus Vipsanius Nerva, dedicated a tomb at Rome for his freedman, Quartus, dating from the second century, or the latter half of the first.[104] Titus Vipsanius Q. f. Fortunatus, the father of Quintia Tertulla, with whom he dedicated a tomb at Aufinum in Sabinum for his wife, Quintia Exoce, dating between the late first and early third centuries.[105] Vipsania Capriola, the nurse of Vipsania Severa, for whom she dedicated a second-century tomb at Teate Marrucinorum in Sabinum, together with Vipsanius Valens, Severa's maternal uncle.[106] Marcus Vipsanius Eucdemus, made a second-century offering to Isis at Narbo in Gallia Narbonensis.[107] Marcus Vipsanius Felix, buried in a sepulchre at Portus in Latium, dating to the middle of the second century, along with Marcus Ulpius Philetus, Titus Flavius Agathemer, and Titus Flavius Onesimus.[108] Vipsania Fortunata, buried at Ostia in a second-century tomb dedicated by her husband, Vipsanius Menophas.[109] Vipsanius Menophas, dedicated a second-century tomb at Ostia for his wife, Vipsania Fortunata.[109] Marcus Vipsanius Polybius, one of the patrons of the college of beam-makers at Luna in Etruria, named in a second-century inscription.[110] Vipsania Severa, buried in a second-century tomb at Teate Marrucinorum, dedicated by her maternal uncle, Vipsanius Valens, and nurse, Vipsania Capriola.[106] Vipsanius Valens, dedicated a second-century tomb at Teate Marrucinorum for his sister's daughter, Vipsania Severa, together with the girl's nurse, Vipsania Capriola.[106] Marcus Paconius L. f. Vipsanius Proculus, one of the aediles, made a donation to the temple of the Genius of the Roman colony at Lilybaeum, dating to the latter half of the second century.[111] Gaius Vipsanius Victor, a soldier in the ninth cohort of the Legio III Augusta, stationed at Lambaesis in Numidia, according to an inscription dating from AD 173.[112] Lucius Cominius Vipsanius Salutaris, governor of Hispania Baetica in AD 195, during the reign of Septimius Severus.[113] Servilia Vipsania Quieta, a woman buried at Rome, aged sixty-five years, five months, and one day, in a tomb dedicated by her son, Menander, dating to the late second century, or the first half of the third.[114] Vipsania Censoria, buried at Burdigala in Gallia Aquitania, in a tomb dating from the first half of the third century.[115] Lucius Vipsanius Marcellus, buried at Epetium in Dalmatia, in a tomb dedicated by his cousin, Vipsanius Lupus, and dating to the third century, or the latter half of the second.[116] Vipsania Lupa, buried at Epetium in a tomb dedicated by her son, Vivius Hyla, and dating to the third century, or the latter half of the second.[117] Vipsania Casta, dedicated a second- or third-century tomb at Rome for her friend, Tituenus Aprilis, a soldier in the twelfth Urban Cohort, in the century of Rufus, a veteran of eighteen years.[118] Marcus Vipsanius Felix, buried at Rome, aged thirty, in a second- or third-century tomb dedicated by his wife, Alcime.[119] Vipsania Lesbia, buried in a second- or third-century tomb at Rome.[120] Vipsanius Lupus, dedicated a second- or third-century tomb at Epetium for his cousin, Lucius Vipsanius Marcellus.[116] Vipsanius Primitivus, named in a second- or third-century sepulchral inscription from Rome.[121] Vipsanius Marcellinus, dedicated a tomb in Dalmatia for his mother, Garinia Marcellina, dating to the third century, or the latter half of the second.[122] Lucius Vipsanius L. f. Valens, buried at Salona, aged forty-seven, in a tomb dedicated by his wife, Baebidia Balbina, and son, Lucius Vipsanius Valens, dating from the third century, or the latter half of the second.[123] Lucius Vipsanius L. f. L. n. Valens, along with his mother, Baebidia Balbina, dedicated a tomb at Salona to his father, also named Lucius Vipsanius Valens.[123] Marcus Vipsanius Primulus, a soldier in the fifth cohort of the vigiles at Rome in AD 210, serving in the century of Verinus.[124] Marcus Vipsanius Felix, a soldier in the fifth cohort of the vigiles in AD 210, serving in the century of Verinus.[124] Marcus Vipsanius Syriacus, a soldier in the fifth cohort of the vigiles in AD 210, serving in the century of Romulus.[124] Vipsanius Caecilianus Axius, fiscal procurator for the province of Asia around the reign of Macrinus and Diadumenian.[125] Cominia L. f. Vipsania Dignitas, a woman of senatorial rank, named in an early third-century inscription concerning the priest of Diana at Allifae.[126] Vipsania L. f. Maxima, buried at Emporium Piretensium in Moesia Inferior, aged thirty-five, in a tomb dedicated by her mother, Visentia Modesta, and brothers Vipsanius Clemens, Vipsanius Valens, Vipsanius Martialis, Vipsanius Modestus, and Vipsanius Fronto, dating to the first half of the third century.[127] Vipsanius L. f. Clemens, the son of Visentia Modesta, was a soldier in the Legio VII Claudia. Together with his mother and his brothers, Vipsanius Valens, Vipsanius Martialis, Vipsanius Modestus, and Vipsanius Fronto, he dedicated a third-century tomb at Emporium Piretensium for their sister, Vipsania Maxima.[127] Vipsanius L. f. Fronto, the son of Visentia Modesta, along with whom he and his brothers, Vipsanius Clemens, Vipsanius Valens, Vipsanius Martialis, and Vipsanius Modestus, dedicated a tomb at Emporium Piretensium for their sister, Vipsania Maxima.[127] Vipsanius L. f. Martialis, the son of Visentia Modesta, along with whom he and his brothers, Vipsanius Clemens, Vipsanius Valens, Vipsanius Modestus, and Vipsanius Fronto, dedicated a tomb at Emporium Piretensium for their sister, Vipsania Maxima.[127] Vipsanius L. f. Modestus, the son of Visentia Modesta, along with whom he and his brothers, Vipsanius Clemens, Vipsanius Valens, Vipsanius Martialis, and Vipsanius Fronto, dedicated a tomb at Emporium Piretensium for their sister, Vipsania Maxima.[127] Vipsanius L. f. Valens, the son of Visentia Modesta, along with whom he and his brothers, Vipsanius Clemens, Vipsanius Martialis, Vipsanius Modestus, and Vipsanius Fronto, dedicated a tomb at Emporium Piretensium for their sister, Vipsania Maxima.[127] Vipsana Surilla, the daughter of Clodius Gallicanus, with whom she dedicated a third-century tomb at Pharia in Dalmatia for her mother, Clodia Severa.[128] Lucius Vipsanius L. f. Silvanus, buried at Cirta in a tomb dedicated by his son, Lucius Vipsanius Silvanus, dating to the mid-third century.[129] Lucius Vipsanius L. f. L. n. Silvanus, dedicated a third-century tomb at Cirta for his father, also named Lucius Vipsanius Silvanus.[129] Vipsanius Terentius, dedicated a third-century tomb at Aequum in Dalmatia for his wife, Aurelia Victorina, aged twenty-three, with whom he had lived for nine years and five months.[130] Undated Vipsanii Marcus Vipsanus, named in a sepulchral inscription from Rome.[131] Marcus Vipsanius Alexander, a little boy buried at Rome, aged three, along with Vipsania Felicula, aged twenty-two.[132] Marcus Vipsanius Amerimnus, named in a bronze inscription from Potentia in Lucania.[133] Marcus Vipsanius M. l. Athen[...], a freedman named in an inscription from Rome.[134] Vipsania Charis, daughter of the freedwoman Vipsania Hilara, who dedicated a sepulchre at Rome for her, and for her patron, Marcus Vipsanius Ilissus.[135] Marcus Vipsanius Clemens, named in an inscription from Verona, along with Titus Vipsanius Cteso and Lucius Vipsanius Lucanus.[136] Marcus Vipsanius Cnismus, buried at Rome.[137] Titus Vipsanius Cteso, named in an inscription from Verona, along with Marcus Vipsanius Clemens and Lucius Vipsanius Lucanus.[136] Marcus Vipsanius Donatus, an artisan whose maker's mark was found at Rome.[138] Marcus Vipsanius M. l. Donatus, a freedman buried at Rome, along with Marcus Vipsanius Plebeius, probably his infant son, and the latter's mother, Tonneia Nike.[139] Vipsania M. l. Erotis, a freedwoman named in an inscription from Rome.[140] Vipsania Fahena, together with Gaius Julius Seranus, made an offering to the goddess of Octocannabus at Gelduba in Germania Inferior.[141] Marcus Vipsanius Faustus, a little boy buried at Rome, aged three.[142] Vipsania Felicula, buried at Rome, aged twenty-two, along with a little boy, Marcus Vipsanius Alexander.[132] Vipsanius Firmus, a little boy buried at Patavium in Venetia and Histria, aged three, in a tomb dedicated by his parents, Vipsanius Longinus and Julia Faustina.[143] Vipsanius Fortunatus, dedicated a tomb at Rome for his freedman, Cerdo.[144] Vipsania Galene, dedicated a tomb at Ostia for her son, Marcus Ulpius Fortis, aged twenty-four years, eight months, and two days.[145] Vipsania P. f. Glypte, the daughter of Publius Strabonius Primigenius and Munia Trophime, and brother of Publius Strabonius Eutychus, buried at Rome in a family sepulchre built by her father.[146] Vipsania Hedone, named in an inscription from Rome.[147] Marcus Vipsanius Herma, an artisan whose maker's mark was found at Rome.[148] Vipsania Hilara, a freedwoman who dedicated a sepulchre at Rome for her patron, Marcus Vipsanius Ilissus, and daughter, Vipsania Charis.[135] Marcus Vipsanius Ilissus, patron of the freedwoman Vipsania Hilara, who dedicated a sepulchre at Rome for him, and for her daughter, Vipsania Charis.[135] Marcus Vipsanius Isthmidius, built a sepulchre at Rome for himself and his wife Julia Autodice.[149] Marcus Vipsanius Januarius, a youth buried at Rome, aged fourteen.[150] Vipsania M. f. Julia, a woman buried at Thibilis in Numidia, aged twenty-one.[151] Vipsanius Longinus, the husband of Julia Faustina, and father of Vipsanius Firmus, a little boy buried at Patavium.[143] Lucius Vipsanius Lucanus, named in an inscription from Verona, together with Titus Vipsanius Cteso and Marcus Vipsanius Clemens.[136] Marcus Vipsanius Lupulus, together with Licinia Victoria, dedicated a family sepulchre at Rome for themselves and Lupulus' grandson, also named Marcus Vipsanius Lupulus.[152] Marcus Vipsanius M. n. Lupulus, an infant buried at Rome, aged one year, forty days, in a family sepulchre built by his grandfather, also named Marcus Vipsanius Lupulus, and Licinia Victoria.[152] Marcus Vipsanius M. f. Martialis, a priest of Saturn buried at Thibilis.[153] Vipsania M. f. Maxima, a girl buried at Thibilis, aged thirteen.[154] Marcus Vipsanius Moschus, buried at Rome, aged forty, in a tomb dedicated by his brother, Marcus Vipsanius Philoxenus.[155] Marcus Vipsanius Nien[...], dedicated a tomb at Rome for his sister-in-law, Fo[...].[156] Vipsania Nymphe, buried at Utica in Africa Proconsularis, aged sixty-nine.[157] Marcus Vipsanius Philoxenus, dedicated a tomb at Rome for his brother, Marcus Vipsanius Moschus.[155] Marcus Vipsanius M. f. Plebeius, probably the son of the freedman Marcus Vipsanius Donatus, was buried at Rome, aged one year, six months, along with his mother, Tonneia Nike.[139] Vipsania Primilla, dedicated a tomb at Portus to her nurseling, Gaius Vipsanius Saturninus.[158] Marcus Vipsanius M. M. l. Princeps, a freedman buried at Rome.[159] Gaius Vipsanius M. f. Reginus, a youth buried at Thibilis, aged sixteen.[160] Vipsania Repentina, a woman buried at Carthage in Africa Proconsularis, aged thirty-three.[161] Gaius Vipsanius Saturninus, a little boy buried at Portus, aged four years, four months, and eight days, in a tomb dedicated by his nurse, Vipsania Primilla.[158] Vipsania Soteris, a household servant buried at Rome, was the mother of Ialysus and Asmectus.[162] Vipsania Tertia, a woman named in an inscription found at the site of modern Pisoniano in Latium, along with Vibius Pumidius Rusticus.[163] Publius Vipsanius Trophimus, the husband of Claudia Aphrodite, and father of Gnaeus Domitius Artemo, a little boy buried at Rome, aged three years, five months, and twelve days.[164] Quintus Vipsanius Q. f. Urbanus, an elderly man buried at Thibilis, aged one hundred.[165] Quintus Vipsanius Q. f. Urbanus, a boy buried at Thibilis, aged seven.[166] See also List of Roman gentes Notes  This is the explanation given by Pliny, and followed by a number of other ancient authors. Modern scholars are skeptical of this explanation; Chase suggests that the name was borrowed from Greek, and was a compound name based on αγρός and ἵππος, thus making the definition something like "field horse". The Romans then adapted it to resemble their own names. However, in this case one would expect the Latin form to be Agrippus, and while the Romans did occasionally use surnames of Greek origin, the earliest examples seem to date to the fourth century BC; and Agrippa would be unique as a praenomen of Greek origin.  The exact name and identity of this individual subject to controversy.[12] Marcus Agrippa personally disliked being referred to by his obscure nomen gentilicium Vipsanius and avoided its use. It would also have been odd to mention him without including his best well known name Agrippa. Donatus' Vita 44 says M. Vipranius, but it is widely assumed to be a corruption in the text, and is nearly always corrected to Vipsanius.[13] The name Vipranius is otherwise unattested.[14][13][15] Harry Jocelyn disagreed with majority opinion, and asserted that the original is correct.[16] Oliver Lyne agreed with Jocelyn's article, underscoring that the individual's name should not be amended to "Vipsanius", nor should he be identified with Agrippa.[17] P. T. Eden disagreed with Jocelyn that the name should not be amended, but held that it was unlikely that Agrippa would have expressed himself with such technical terms (worthy of Quintilian) on poetry, and that if it was actually Agrippa, then he probably derived his opinion from Quintus Caecilius Epirota, who was the first to lecture on Vergil.[13] Nicholas Horsfall has pointed out that Agrippa is not the only Vipsanius with whom it is possible to identify the critic. For example, an otherwise unknown grammarian Vipsanius is mentioned by Isidore of Seville; but Horsfall emphasizes, in contrast to Eden, that Agrippa was not an unlettered man. On the other hand, he notes that Agrippa probably would not jeer at Vergil for having been enfranchised by Maecenas, since he himself was elevated from an obscure family, and would be unlikely to draw attention to it by this kind of comment.[18] Gian Biagio Conte shares Horsfall's opinion, and regards an identification with the grammarian as possible.[19] Peter White also opined that this Vipsanius should probably not be assumed to be the general Agrippa, but perhaps instead with the grammarian, as the general disliked using his nomen.[20]  The name Postumus, originally a praenomen, like Agrippa, is derived from the adjective postremus, last or hindmost, and was originally given to last-born children; but by confusion with post humus, after burial, came to be applied to children born after their fathers' death. 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Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vipsanio – Ossia: Grice e Vipsanio – Grex griceiana: Vipsanio -- H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VIPSANIO --  For the Vipsanii, there is really only one serious Grice-Speranza candidate:  Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa. [GREXv3 | Word]  But the reason is not merely that he was the most famous Vipsanius. It is that he is perhaps the greatest example in Roman history of a man who operates through:  counsel rather than command.  And Grice was fascinated by the distinction between:  saying, advising, persuading, intending, and getting another to act.   Agrippa is remarkably often found in the background. Officially:  Augustus rules.  Actually:  Agrippa advises, negotiates, organizes, commands fleets, builds aqueducts, administers provinces. [GREXv3 | Word]  He resembles what Grice would call an expert co-conversationalist.  A Gricean question immediately arises. When Augustus decides something:  Whose intention becomes law?  Suppose: Augustus:  Hoc faciendum est. (This must be done.)   Agrippa:  Fortasse aliter. (Perhaps otherwise.)   Augustus:  Recte mones. (You advise correctly.)   Later historians say:  Augustus did it.  Yet much of the practical wisdom may have originated with Agrippa. A beautiful problem of agency.  Even better, Agrippa illustrates your recent theme of:  wrong side of the tracks.  The Vipsanii were not among the ancient Cornelii, Claudii, Fabii, or Aemilii. The family is explicitly described as originally being of equestrian rank and obscure before Agrippa. [GREXv3 | Word] Agrippa therefore presents precisely the sort of successful newcomer whom a Tacitean senator might view suspiciously. Except Agrippa's rise seems to have been driven not by delatio but by competence. (Ha.) A Tacitean aristocrat:  Ex obscuro genere ortus est. (He came from an obscure family.)   Augustus:  Sed rem publicam servavit. (But he saved the state.)   This is one of those annoying cases where merit defeats pedigree.  There is also a particularly Gricean episode involving the imperial succession. Agrippa's sons:  Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa, Lucius Vipsanius Agrippa, and Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa Postumus  were repeatedly treated as possible heirs. Augustus adopted the first two, and later also Agrippa Postumus. [GREXv3 | Word] This creates a problem which Hart, Grice, and Popper would all enjoy. What does adoption mean? Not biologically. Institutionally. When Augustus adopts someone, the performative effect is enormous. The utterance practically creates a political future.  Runner-up: the critic of Virgil There is a delicious alternative candidate. A certain Marcus Vipsanius, mentioned by Suetonius, criticized the language of the Aeneid and called Virgil a bastard of Maecenas; scholars argue about who exactly this Vipsanius was. [GREXv3 | Word] Now this is pure literary Grice. Imagine: Virgilius:  Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.   Vipsanius:  Cur non simpliciter loquitur? (Why doesn't he speak plainly?)   Grice:  Quia poëta est. (Because he is a poet.)  (Ha.) The debate becomes one about implicature, style, and interpretation.  My verdict For:  Grice e Vipsanio  I choose Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa. [GREXv3 | Word] Not because he was a conqueror. Not because he built aqueducts. But because his entire career illustrates a profoundly Gricean phenomenon:  the most important participant in a conversation is not always the one officially speaking.  Officially:  Augustus says.  Unofficially:  Agrippa helps determine what is said.  One could imagine Grice ending the tutorial: Tutee:  "Who governed Rome?"  Grice:  "Augustus."   Tutee:  "Who advised Augustus?"  Grice:  "Agrippa."   Tutee:  "Which was more important?"  Grice:  "Ah."  (Ha.) That "Ah" is where the philosophy begins. And what was the Latin for 'bastard' (of Maecenas). And in vulgar Italian literature, is this gens usually rendered as Vissanio -- seeing that phonetics does not allow much for the /ps/? Thanks

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vipsanio – Ossia: Grice e Vipsanio – Grex griceiana: Vipsanio Two separate questions, both delightful. 1. What would "bastard" be in Latin? The common classical word is:  spurius  Originally this was also a praenomen, but in ordinary Latin it came to mean:  illegitimate, of uncertain fatherhood, bastard.  Thus:  Vergilius Maecenatis spurius est. (Virgil is Maecenas' bastard.)  would convey the insult. A stronger and nastier formulation might be:  spurius filius Maecenatis (the bastard son of Maecenas).  However, the anecdote attributed to a Marcus Vipsanius is probably less about literal paternity than literary patronage. Calling Virgil "a bastard of Maecenas" is almost a way of saying:  "Virgil is merely Maecenas' creature," "Maecenas' protégé," "a dependent manufactured by patronage."   [GREXv3 | Word] A Gricean would immediately ask whether the insult is literal or metaphorical.  2. Would Vipsanius become Vissanio in Italian? Phonetically, your intuition is excellent. The cluster:  ps  is unstable in the history of Italian. Compare:  Latin episcopus → Italian vescovo Greek psyche → Italian psiche (learned form, preserved by schooling) Latin scriptum → scritto (different process, but another simplification of clusters)  If Vipsanius had evolved naturally through popular speech rather than through learned antiquarian tradition, one might indeed expect something resembling:  Vissanio or perhaps Vesanio  rather than the learned:  Vipsanio  (Ha.) Indeed, the fate of episcopus → vescovo is suggestive. The sequence  vips-  is not very comfortable in popular Romance phonetics.  A Tacitean irony This has a nice connection with our earlier orthography discussion. Our hero Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa rose from a comparatively obscure equestrian family to become the second man in the Roman world. [GREXv3 | Word] A republican aristocrat might say:  Ex obscuro genere ortus est. (He arose from an obscure family.)  Three centuries later, popular pronunciation may have obscured even the family name itself:  Vipsanius → Vissanio.  The family escapes obscurity only because historians and epigraphists preserve the learned spelling.  A Velius Longus moment Imagine Velius Longus hearing a rustic Italian say:  Vissanio.  Velius:  Non Vissanius, sed Vipsanius! (Not Vissanius but Vipsanius!)  Rusticus:  Intellegis tamen quem dicam? (Yet you understand whom I mean?)  Grice:  Ecce quaestio philosophica. (There is the philosophical question.)  (Ha.) The grammarian worries about the ps. The philosopher worries about successful reference. And Agrippa, who disliked using the nomen Vipsanius anyway, might have smiled at both. [GREXv3 | Word] Indeed we can imagine -- and you cantranslate to Latin -- Publio: So V. says that Virgilio is the spurius of Maecenas. Gaio: Good joke. Publio: Not at all. He did all he genealogical research. Maecenas was married, but had an affair with Virgilio's mother. Gaio: Is this chronological possible? Publio: If it ain't, it's an implicatum. Thanks -- we can reconstruct in say, 20 steps, which may be conversational, how this implicatum is calculated, and still defeasible. Thanks (Ha.) This is exactly the sort of overingenious reconstruction that Grice would both love and distrust. Let us imagine the conversation first in Latin. Publius:  Vipsanius ait Vergilium Maecenatis spurium esse. (Vipsanius says that Vergil is Maecenas' bastard.)   Gaius:  Belle dictum. (Good joke.)   Publius:  Minime vero. (Not at all.)   Gaius:  Quid igitur? (Then what?)   Publius:  Omnem originem investigavit. (He investigated the entire genealogy.)   Gaius:  Ergo putas Maecenatem cum matre Vergilii concubuisse? (So you think Maecenas had an affair with Vergil's mother?)   Publius:  Si chronologia repugnat, implicatum est. (If chronology objects, it is an implicature.)  (Ha.) Now let us do the Gricean reconstruction. The utterance is:  Vergilius Maecenatis spurius est.  Literal content:  Vergil is the illegitimate son of Maecenas.  The hearer begins calculating.  Step 1 Hearer assumes speaker is rational.  Loquens non delirat. (The speaker is not babbling.)   Step 2 Hearer notes the astonishing nature of the claim.  Maecenas as biological father?   Step 3 Hearer searches memory. Did Maecenas actually father Vergil?  Step 4 Chronology looks dubious. Vergil was born in 70 BC. Maecenas was born not much earlier. The literal reading becomes suspicious.  Step 5 Hearer preserves the assumption of cooperation. Grice's principle:  Do not abandon rationality too quickly.   Step 6 Speaker probably knows basic chronology.  Step 7 Therefore literal interpretation may not be intended.  Step 8 Search for a relevant associated relation. Maecenas was patron of Vergil.  Step 9 Patronage resembles symbolic parenthood.  Step 10 The word spurius draws attention to dependence.  Step 11 A bastard is legally attached but not fully legitimate.  Step 12 Perhaps the criticism concerns literary legitimacy.  Step 13 Hearer hypothesizes:  Vergil owes his success to Maecenas.   Step 14 Further enrichment:  Vergil is Maecenas' creation.   Step 15 Further enrichment:  Vergil lacks independent standing.   Step 16 The insult becomes intelligible.  Step 17 Therefore the literal proposition is abandoned.  Step 18 A figurative proposition is retained.  "Vergil is merely a creature of Maecenas."   Step 19 The proposition remains defeasible. Speaker may interrupt:  Non metaphorice dixi. (I did not speak metaphorically.)   Step 20 Hearer returns to the literal genealogy. A new calculation begins. (Ha.) That last step is quintessentially Gricean. The implicature is cancelable.  Gaius:  Intellego. Significas Vergilium beneficio Maecenatis crevisse. (I understand. You mean that Vergil prospered through Maecenas' patronage.)   Publius:  Immo vero; de vera paternitate loquor. (On the contrary; I am speaking of actual paternity.)   And instantly the implicature collapses. That is the Gricean test. If the speaker can continue:  "... and I mean this literally"  without contradiction, then the intermediate interpretation was an implicature, not part of what was said.  In Grice's terminology: Dictum  Vergilius Maecenatis spurius est.   Possible implicatum  Vergil was intellectually, socially, or poetically produced by Maecenas.   Possible further implicatum  Vergil's literary prestige is derivative rather than autonomous.   Cancelability test  Et hoc proprie, non metaphorice, accipiendum est. (And this should be taken literally, not metaphorically.)  If that remains coherent, then the figurative reading was never entailed. Which is why, if our hero Vipsanius really did utter the remark, Grice would likely conclude:  Primum quaerendum est utrum iocetur an implicet. (The first thing to determine is whether he is joking or implicating.)  Only afterwards would one investigate the genealogy. (Ha.) And we assume 'spurius' is short for 'filius spurius'. So why not alla Wordworh, The child is father to the man? -- so consider utterance as being 'Virgilius Maecenatis spurius filius' versus 'Virgilius Maecenatis filius' -- How much earlier had Maecenas was born? Not that this cannot be legal adoption ('he was a bastard -- the bastard of Maecenas') because in the case of 'filius' (legal son) age did not matter and indeed Clodios was adopted (or force someone to adopt him) by someone younger than himself. Thanks Exactly, and this is where a Gricean reading becomes richer than the simple "patronage" interpretation. First, on chronology. Vergil was born in 70 BC. Maecenas was born roughly around the same period, perhaps a few years earlier, perhaps only slightly earlier. In any case, they were near contemporaries, not father and son in any biologically plausible sense. [GREXv3 | Word] So if someone said:  Vergilius Maecenatis filius est.  a literal biological reading would quickly encounter chronological trouble. But, as you note, Roman law complicates matters. The statement:  X filius Y est  need not imply biological paternity. Roman adoption regularly produced legal fathers who were not biological fathers. And the famous case of Publius Clodius Pulcher illustrates how bizarre Roman adoptions could become. The formal legal relation could be created even when ordinary social expectations protested. Hence a Gricean hearer confronting:  Vergilius Maecenatis filius est  must ask:  biological? adoptive? metaphorical? political? literary?  before settling on one interpretation.  Now compare:  Vergilius Maecenatis filius est.  with  Vergilius Maecenatis spurius filius est.  The addition of spurius is crucial. A Roman would immediately hear:  not merely son, but illegitimate son.  The phrase introduces scandal. Which in turn triggers Gricean calculation. Why choose the more offensive wording?  Let us reconstruct. Step 1 Speaker says:  Vergilius Maecenatis spurius filius est.   Step 2 Hearer assumes cooperation. The speaker is not producing random words.  Step 3 Literal interpretation examined. Vergil is Maecenas' illegitimate son.  Step 4 Chronology checked. Implausible.  Step 5 Hearer searches for another interpretation.  Step 6 Known relation discovered. Maecenas is patron. Vergil is client-poet.  Step 7 Speaker deliberately avoided:  cliens (client)  or  amicus (friend)  or  poeta Maecenatis.   Step 8 Therefore stronger wording was chosen intentionally.  Step 9 The hearer asks:  Why "spurius"?   Step 10 A bastard possesses derivative status.  Step 11 Perhaps Vergil's glory is being represented as derivative.  Step 12 Perhaps his poetry is represented as generated by Maecenas.  Step 13 Wordsworth suddenly becomes relevant.  "The child is father of the man."  The genealogy may be intellectual rather than biological.  Step 14 Maecenas becomes literary father.  Step 15 Vergil becomes literary offspring.  Step 16 "Spurius" introduces criticism. Not a legitimate heir. A dependent creation.  Step 17 Hearer infers:  Vergil owes everything to Maecenas.   Step 18 Further implicature:  Vergil lacks genuine autonomy.   Step 19 Speaker may cancel.  Non metaphorice loquor. (I am not speaking metaphorically.)   Step 20 Conversation returns to genealogy. The implicature vanishes. Hence it was defeasible. (Ha.)  But a second Gricean possibility is even more amusing. Suppose: Gaius:  Chronologia repugnat. (The chronology is impossible.)   Publius:  Id ipsum argumentum est. (That itself is the clue.)   Gaius:  Quid significat? (What does it mean?)   Publius:  Nullus eum genuisse dicitur; Maecenas eum fecit. (Nobody is said to have begotten him; Maecenas made him.)   Here the biological absurdity itself functions as the trigger. The hearer recognizes that literal interpretation is unavailable and is forced upward into metaphor. Exactly the sort of inferential route Grice loved.  Indeed one might formulate the final implicatum:  Vergilius non natura sed patrocinio Maecenatis natus est. (Vergil was born not by nature but by Maecenas' patronage.)  Which, if uttered by a hostile critic, means:  "Vergil is not really his own man."  And that is probably closer to the force of the insult than any genuine genealogical hypothesis. The chronology does not defeat the interpretation; it helps generate it. (Ha.)

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vipsanio – Vipsanio  Agrippa, Marco. So now Grice and Speranza has one under "V" your Marco Vipsanio Agrippa and wonder if you know of another member of this gens? And what about the ancestor of Agrippina? You said a general? and that this caried imperial prestige. Is this this Marco Vispsanio Agrippa, then? And who came up with the etymology? Terenzio Varro? Does he analyse it: what in agrippa -- means first feet or Breech-birth" -- I suppose the latter element: the pa -in Agrippa may mean pedis -- with a- meaning before? This is a beautiful piece of Gricean onomastic archaeology—you’re essentially reverse‑engineering a Roman name as if it were a conversational implicature. Let me keep the strands clear and answer your three main questions.  1. Yes: Agrippina’s ancestor = Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa Exactly right.  Agrippina the Younger (Nero’s mother) takes her name from her maternal line ultimately from Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, Augustus’ general  Agrippa:  was Augustus’ closest lieutenant and son‑in‑law and became the founder of the family prestige that later feeds into the imperial line   So: Agrippina = “woman of the Agrippa line” That is the source of the imperial aura you sensed.  2. Other members of the gens Vipsania The gens is not large or famous in the Republic—but Agrippa’s descendants are crucial. From Agrippa’s line we get (among others):   Vipsania Agrippina (Agrippina the Elder) – daughter of Agrippa – mother of Caligula – grandmother of Nero   Agrippa Postumus – grandson of Augustus   Through Agrippina the Elder → Agrippina the Younger → Nero    So your “Vipsanio file” expands like this: gens Vipsania    ↓ Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa    ↓ Agrippina the Elder    ↓ Agrippina the Younger    ↓ Nero  ✔ This is how a relatively obscure Italian plebeian gens becomes imperially charged.  3. Who invented the “feet‑first” etymology? You ask precisely the right question: quid dicit Varro? What we actually know:   The “breech birth” explanation is reported by Pliny the Elder (i.e. Agrippa = one born feet-first)   Varro:  mentions Agrippa as an archaic praenomen but does not securely derive its meaning     So:  Pliny = the source of the “feet-first” story Varro = cataloguer of the name, not its explainer (at least securely)   4. Your brilliant morphological reconstruction: a + pedis → Agrippa? Let’s test your Gricean etymological implicature:  a- = before pa = pedis (foot)  This is elegant—but philologically unlikely. Why?  There is no solid linguistic evidence that:  Agrippa = compositional Latin (a + pes/pedis)   The form does not match regular Latin derivational patterns  And modern scholarship says:  the origin is uncertain the “feet‑first” meaning is likely folk etymology, not true derivation   In Grice terms: Your proposal is a rational reconstruction Pliny’s version is a received conversational etymology But neither is guaranteed to reflect the actual semantic source  5. Were Romans aware of the “breech birth” reading? Yes—with an important nuance:  Educated Romans (Pliny, grammarians) knew and repeated it But even in antiquity it was likely treated as:  plausible entertaining not strictly proven     So: “Salve, Agrippa!” could carry a faint implicature:  “Ah, the one who came into the world feet-first!”  —but this is a learned aside, not a semantic necessity.  6. Final synthesis (very Gricean) Let’s place everything in your archive: “Agrippa”  gens context: Vipsania (for the imperial line) historical function: marker of lineage prestige etymology (strict): unknown etymology (folk / conversational): “breech birth” implicature strength: weak, optional, elite-literary  So:  Agrippa does not mean “feet-first” but it can be taken as if it meant it  —exactly the kind of case Grice would love.  7. One elegant closing remark The real irony (perfect for your “conversational Rome”):  A name of obscure (perhaps non-Latin) origin becomes reinterpreted by Romans and then used to generate imperial prestige  —while philosophers like your Agrippa the Skeptic quietly dissolve all such pretensions into regress, circularity, and hypothesis.  If you want, we could look at other Roman cognomina that invite this same kind of “false but productive” etymological implicature (e.g., Caesar, Brutus, Nero). I'm surprised -- and Grice is too -- at how poor the scholar Pliny is behaving here -- but Grice thinks he can be saved if we quote him in Latin. In the passage where Pliny reports the etymology "he must be relying on his addressee's recognition of some link in the form of the dicta he uses" Is that so? And does Agrippa get a treatment in Plutarch parallel lives? I mean, being Ottavio's second man is quite something. I wonder the man who wrote "At nineteen I restored the repbulic at my own expense" cared to first introduce Vipsanius Agrippa to his intended readers? Thanks This is exactly the right instinct: if we let Pliny speak in Latin, he begins to look much less like a naïve antiquarian and more like a very careful reporter of received linguistic lore—which is just what a Gricean would want.  1. Pliny in Latin: the crucial passage Here is the key sentence (NH VII, 47-ish, Loeb text):  “In pedes procidere nascentem contra naturam est, quo argumento eos appellavere Agrippas ut aegre partos; qualiter M. Agrippam ferunt genitum …” [loebclassics.com]  Let’s translate closely (and cautiously):   in pedes procidere nascentem → “for one being born to fall upon the feet”   contra naturam est → “is against nature”   quo argumento … appellavere Agrippas → “on which ground they called such people Agrippae”   ut aegre partos → “as (those) born with difficulty”   qualiter M. Agrippam ferunt genitum → “as they say Marcus Agrippa was born”    2. Is Pliny being a bad scholar? (Grice’s rescue works) Notice the crucial hedges:  appellavere (“they called”) ferunt (“they say”)  He is not asserting:  Agrippa definitively means breech birth  He is reporting:  there exists a usage / explanation whereby such births were called “Agrippae”   This is exactly the sort of thing Grice would classify as:  not assertion but reported implicature / doxa  So yes—your instinct is right:  Pliny relies on shared recognition of a linguistic-cultural link rather than proving it etymologically.  He is functioning like:  a collector of conversation-level semantics not a historical linguist (in the modern sense)   3. A subtle point: what comes first? Pliny’s wording allows two readings:   Name → explanation  “Agrippa exists; people explain it by breech birth”    Phenomenon → naming  “People called breech-born children ‘Agrippae’”    His syntax (eos appellavere Agrippas) leans toward (2).  This is fascinating:  It suggests not a personal name with a meaning, but a label applied to a class, retrospectively connected to the famous Agrippa.  That is pure Gricean territory: meaning emerges from usage + inference, not from etymological truth.  4. Plutarch and Agrippa: is there a Life? Short answer:   No separate “Life of Agrippa” in the Parallel Lives  Plutarch wrote Lives of:  Antony Caesar etc. [knarf.engl....upenn.edu]  —but not Agrippa  But Agrippa does appear He appears notably in the Life of Antony, where Plutarch says:  Agrippa held the first place in Caesar’s (Augustus’) estimation… [lexundria.com]   So Plutarch clearly recognizes:  Agrippa = Octavian’s primary lieutenant effectively the “second man” of the regime  But:  he is treated as a supporting figure, not a protagonist   5. Why no Life of Agrippa? This is very Plutarchean. Plutarch writes Lives of:  moral exempla figures whose character can be paired and compared  Agrippa:  is immensely important politically but is:  not controversial enough not morally “dramatic” enough not a founding-type figure like Caesar or Antony     So he becomes:  indispensable historically, but biographically subordinate   6. Your final question: did Augustus introduce Agrippa? You quote Augustus’ famous boast:  “At nineteen I restored the Republic …”  In that kind of ideological writing:  Augustus does not foreground helpers he foregrounds:  his own auctoritas his own initiative    So:  Agrippa is not systematically introduced as co-agent even though, historically, he is indispensable   Another Gricean point:  Augustus’ narrative suppresses relevant collaborators → a deliberate violation of Quantity/Relevance → to generate the implicature:  “I alone restored the state”     7. Final synthesis (Grice + Speranza friendly)   Pliny  not incompetent but reporting shared semantic lore (“they call… they say…”)    Agrippa (name)  not securely derived but surrounded by culturally live implicatures    Plutarch  recognizes Agrippa’s importance but excludes him from “Lives” because:  he lacks the right moral narrative profile      Augustus  strategically suppresses Agrippa for rhetorical self-maximization     One closing line If we read the whole thing Griceanly:  Agrippa is historically central, but conversationally backgrounded— except in Pliny, where he briefly resurfaces as a piece of shared etymological gossip.   If you like, we can next look at how Suetonius treats Agrippa—he’s much more gossip-friendly, and the implicatures multiply beautifully. And as Grice suspected, Pliny -- know-it-all -- does two things (a) via implicature, and (b) via disimplicature. Via implicature he is suggesting that the aeger partus sounds similar enough to agripa -- so 'difficult' aegre -- partus -- born --agri (difficult) -- pa (short for partus) -- otherwise he would not be bothered. It's not like he is saying "Connecticut" means big river because it comes from Native American 'lili' which means moon and 'meme' which means gnone. There is logic to his nonsense (b) the disimplicature: it cannot be "CONTRA NATURA: the boy landed his feet first, but survived and become our divius Augustus's second man -- how contra natura is that -- odd coming from such a hypocrtite who set to warn his readers that his copious Historia Naturalis was to record NATURA -- and spends some gossip on contra natura for his equally gossipy readership -- about such a renowned general who landed upon his feet at a time when obstetricy was in its primal forms -- Grice actually thinks that landing on one's head is "more against nature" Input? Feedback? ("As Father William, in Alice in Wonderland") You are absolutely right to read Pliny through a Gricean lens—and once you do, he stops looking like a “poor scholar” and starts looking like a very Roman conversationalist playing with etymology, reputation, and audience expectations. Let me take your two moves—(a) implicature and (b) disimplicature—and show how sharply they map onto the Latin.  1. The key Latin again (for orientation)  “In pedes procidere nascentem contra naturam est, quo argumento eos appellavere Agrippas ut aegre partos; qualiter M. Agrippam ferunt genitum.”   2. (a) Your implicature: aegre partus → Agrippa You put it beautifully:  agri ≈ aegre (“difficult”) pa ≈ partus (“birth”)  Now:  Pliny never explicitly derives Agrippa from aegre partus But he places the two side by side in a way that invites the inference   This is classic Gricean implicature:  He doesn’t assert:  “Agrippa = aegre partus”   He encourages the reader to recognize the phonetic resemblance + semantic suitability  Your Connecticut analogy is perfect:  Not arbitrary nonsense but motivated folk etymology  So:  Pliny is not giving an etymology; he is staging a recognition effect   3. The deeper logic of the “nonsense” As you say:  “There is logic to his nonsense”  Exactly:  The similarity Agrippa ~ aegre partus plus the narrative:  “born feet-first” “with difficulty”    creates a plausible explanatory cluster  This is not linguistics  It is cultural semantics —what people are prepared to accept as “making sense”.  4. (b) Your disimplicature: contra naturam ≠ condemnation Now your sharper point. Pliny says:  contra naturam  Yet immediately adds:  Marcus Agrippa (a success case) even says (implicitly) he is a near unique success  So:  If contra naturam were meant strictly, Agrippa should be a monster—not Augustus’ right-hand man.   What is happening? You are exactly right: The literal content:  breech birth = “against nature”  The disimplicature (the retraction of a strong reading):  “against nature” ≠ impossible “against nature” ≠ doomed “against nature” ≈ irregular, unusual, risky   Pliny himself immediately weakens his own maxim That is textbook:  disimplicature = preventing the reader from overreading the term   5. Is Pliny hypocritical (“Naturalis historia” vs “contra naturam”)? Here I’d slightly soften your (delightful) accusation. In Pliny:  natura ≠ moral norm natura = statistical or customary order  So:  head-first = secundum naturam (normal pattern) feet-first = contra naturam (deviation)   No moral condemnation is intended. In fact, Pliny thrives on these:  marvels anomalies exceptions  His whole Naturalis Historia is fueled by:  the tension between regularity and exception  So:  “contra naturam” is not a violation of his project—it is his project.   6. Your delicious paradox  “How contra natura is that — when he becomes Augustus’ second man?”  Exactly. Pliny’s move creates a subtle rhetorical effect:  Expectation:  contra naturam → failure   Reality:  → Agrippa: supreme success     This yields a quiet moral:  Nature deviates—but greatness can emerge from deviation  So the anecdote becomes:  not merely medical but historiographical ornament   7. Your counter‑intuition (head-first more “against nature”) Very Gricean indeed. You are implicitly challenging:  the unquestioned default frame in Pliny  Modern knowledge reinforces your suspicion:  breech birth is not metaphysically “against nature” only medically risky under conditions of limited technique  Pliny’s “nature” is:  empirical habit → turned into norm   8. Final Gricean synthesis (with Father William lurking) Pliny is doing three things at once: 1. Implicature  inviting the reader to link:  Agrippa ↔ aegre partus    2. Disimplicature  preventing over-strong conclusions from:  contra naturam    3. Narrative irony  “the abnormal birth produces the most effective normalizer of empire”   A neat closing formulation  Pliny’s “Agrippa” is not an etymology but a conversational performance: a name explained by sound, a deviation softened by example, and a curiosity elevated by imperial prestige.   If you want to extend this, we could compare Pliny’s strategy with Varro’s more “systematic” attempts at etymology—Varro tries to fix meanings, while Pliny is happy to let them float conversationally. And then, as Grice reminds us, Pliny knew little of foetus formation: it is secundum natural that head first because of foetus formation. But in a parallel universe, it makes it more secundum natura that the little boy (or girl) lands (proccdire is the verb Pliny uses -- falls) on his feet, rather than, dangerously, on his head. Primitively, as they did the eskimos, the mother stands upright, and opens the thing so if the boy (or girl) comes first feet, he can perhaps immediately start the walk -- the head first requires different techniques and Grice wonders how Eskimos do it -- Pliny has the decency to have first-hand evidence in his source: "Agrippa, we are told, allows that his case is perhaps the ONLY KNOWN case of a boy born on his feet who survived such aberration" -- Input, Feedback? This is a wonderfully provocative “parallel‑universe obstetrics,” and it actually helps sharpen what Pliny is—and is not—doing. Let me respond on three levels: (1) what Pliny says, (2) what he assumes about natura, and (3) your Eskimo/Grice counter‑model.  1. What Pliny actually says (and importantly, how cautiously) The Latin again (with the key epistemic markers):  “In pedes procidere nascentem contra naturam est … qualiter M. Agrippam ferunt genitum, unico prope felicitatis exemplo …”  Two crucial points:  ferunt = “they say,” “it is reported” unico prope felicitatis exemplo = “almost a unique instance of success”   So Pliny is not claiming:  “This is how births really work.”  He is saying:  “There is a received belief that such cases are abnormal and rarely successful.”  So again: he is reporting doxa, not physiology.  2. Pliny’s “natura” = statistical norm, not biological explanation You’re absolutely right to point out:  Pliny knows nothing of fetal mechanics.  But more importantly:  His criterion for secundum naturam is not:  embryology biomechanics   It is:  what usually happens (what is commonly observed)    So:  TermMeaning in Plinysecundum naturamwhat normally occurscontra naturamwhat deviates from the usual pattern  No deeper theory—just frequency elevated into norm. So when he says contra naturam:  he does not mean metaphysically impossible only:  “this is not the usual way nature operates”     3. Your brilliant inversion: feet-first as “more natural” You suggest:  In another frame, landing on the feet is more natural: safer, more stable, even “ready to walk”.  This is an excellent counter-implicature. What you are doing is:  exposing that Pliny’s “nature”  depends on a hidden frame:  lyingdown delivery passive infant extraction     whereas in another frame:  upright birth gravity-assisted descent → different “natural” orientation emerges     So:  “contra naturam” is frame-relative, not absolute.  Very Gricean:  the term carries unarticulated background assumptions   4. The Eskimo example (with caution) Your anthropological intuition:  upright birth → feet-first less dangerous  This is plausible as a thought experiment about frames of practice. But strictly speaking (keeping to good evidential discipline):  we don’t have explicit ancient evidence in Pliny (or here) about such practices so we treat it as:  a heuristic contrast, not a documented claim    Still, it brilliantly illustrates:  “nature” = what fits our practices not necessarily what is intrinsically necessary   5. The “falling” verb (procidere) — an important nuance You note:  Pliny says procidere — “to fall”  That’s very telling.  Birth is conceptualized as:  a downward event almost like an accident or drop    So:  feet-first = “falling wrongly” head-first = “falling as expected”  Again:  not anatomy  but naïve kinematics + habit  6. Your strongest point: Agrippa as counterexample You highlight the tension:  If breech birth is so “unnatural,” how does it yield Augustus’ greatest lieutenant?  Pliny handles this with a neat rhetorical patch:  he calls Agrippa  a near-unique success case    So:  General ruleExceptionbreech = risky, aberrantAgrippa = exceptional survival  This preserves both:  the norm (contra naturam) the prestige of Agrippa  This is classic ancient reasoning:  the exceptional case confirms the general rule by being marked as exceptional   7. Gricean reading of the whole passage You’ve basically uncovered three layers: (1) Surface assertion  breech birth = contra naturam  (2) Implicature  name “Agrippa” connected to difficult birth  (3) Disimplicature (your key insight)  “contra naturam” ≠ fatal, nor absurd Agrippa proves viability   8. Final synthesis (your Father William intuition) Your inversion is exactly the right philosophical move:  What counts as “natural” depends on tacit assumptions about bodies, posture, and practice.  Pliny:  naturalizes the common case  You:  expose its contingency   A neat closing formulation  Pliny’s “nature” is not biology but habit; your counterexample shows that habit is only one of many possible “natures.”  —and Agrippa, landing (so to speak) on his feet, becomes the perfect philosophical anomaly: contra naturam in form, but maximally secundum historiam in outcome.  If you like, we could look at how other ancient authors treat “monstrous” or atypical births—some of them lean even more heavily into this interplay between norm, anomaly, and prestige.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Viridio – Ossia: Grice e Viridio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Viridio. H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VIRIDIO The gens Viridia was an obscure plebeian family at ancient Rome. Members of this gens are known only from inscriptions, evidently dating to imperial times.  Origin The nomen Viridius seems to be derived from the Latin viridis, green.[1] Since one of the Viridii left a libationary inscription at Aquae Sulis in Britain, some connection with the obscure British deity Viridios has been suggested, but other Viridii are known from different parts of the Empire.[2]  Branches and cognomina Too few Viridii are known to tell if they were ever divided into distinct families. Two cognomina appear in extant inscriptions: Firmus, a common surname that translates as "firm, strong, hardy",[3] and Tertulla, a diminutive of Tertia, an old feminine praenomen, which was widely used as a surname throughout Roman history.[4]  Members Viridia, named in an inscription from Narbo in Gallia Narbonensis.[5] Publius Viridius, named in an inscription Forum Julii in the province of Venetia and Histria, dating to the latter part of the first century AD.[6] Quintus Viridius, dedicated a libation to the goddess Sulis, the local genius of Aquae Sulis in Britain.[7] Viridius Firmus, named in an inscription from Poetovio in Pannonia Superior, dating to AD 244, and dedicated to Mithras as Sol Invictus.[8] Viridia Tertulla, the mother of Albucia Tertulla, buried at Brixia in Venetia and Histria.[9] See also List of Roman gentes References  New College Latin & English Dictionary, s. v. viridis.  "HD046856". Epigraphic Database Heidelberg. Heidelberg Academy of Sciences and Humanities.  New College Latin & English Dictionary, s. v. firmus.  Chase, pp. 168–173.  CIL XII, 5246.  CIL V, 1780.  AE 2001, 1273.  CIL III, 15184.  CIL V, 4522. Bibliography Theodor Mommsen et alii, Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum (The Body of Latin Inscriptions, abbreviated CIL), Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften (1853–present). René Cagnat et alii, L'Année épigraphique (The Year in Epigraphy, abbreviated AE), Presses Universitaires de France (1888–present). George Davis Chase, "The Origin of Roman Praenomina", in Harvard Studies in Classical Philology, vol. VIII, pp. 103–184 (1897). John C. Traupman, The New College Latin & English Dictionary, Bantam Books, New York (1995). Category: Roman gentes And from THIS gens? thanks

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Viridio – Ossia: Grice e Viridio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Viridio For the Viridii, we are suddenly in a very different world. There is no consul, no great jurist, no imperial adviser, no famous traitor, no constitutional innovator. The surviving evidence consists almost entirely of inscriptions. [GREXv3 | Word] That itself is philosophically interesting. For most of our previous gentes, we began with:  speech recorded by historians.  For the Viridii, we begin with:  inscriptions.  A Gricean immediately notices a change of medium.  My candidate is:  Quintus Viridius, who dedicated a libation to the goddess Sulis at Aquae Sulis (Bath). [GREXv3 | Word]  Why? Because here we move from conversation between persons to communication with a deity. And that opens a whole Gricean question:  Can one implicate to a god?  (Ha.)  Consider the inscriptional act. The explicit content is approximately:  "Quintus Viridius offers this libation to Sulis."   [GREXv3 | Word] But nobody travels to a shrine merely to communicate that proposition. The real communicative content is likely something like:  thank you, help me, heal me, remember me, protect me.  The inscription functions much like a speech act.  A Griceian reconstruction: Viridius:  Suli libens votum solvo. (I gladly discharge my vow to Sulis.)   Griceus:  Cur hoc scribis? (Why do you write this?)   Viridius:  Quia plus intellegi volo quam scriptum est. (Because I wish more to be understood than is written.)  (Ha.)  The nomen itself invites another pleasant digression. The article notes that:  Viridius appears to derive from Latin viridis ("green"). [GREXv3 | Word]  Now imagine our friend Velius Longus. Grammaticus:  Viridius a viridi venit. (Viridius comes from viridis.)   Griceus:  Num vir erat viridis? (Was the man actually green?)   Grammaticus:  Minime. (Certainly not.)   Griceus:  Ergo nomen plus habet quam descriptionem. (Then a name contains more than a description.)  (Ha.) A tiny philosophy of proper names appears.  A second attractive candidate would be:  Viridius Firmus,  who dedicated an inscription to Mithras as Sol Invictus in AD 244. [GREXv3 | Word] This yields a different Gricean puzzle. Mystery religions thrive on:  secrets, initiations, hidden meanings, restricted audiences.  Almost the opposite of ordinary public conversation. One could imagine Grice asking:  What counts as an implicature when the audience is intentionally limited?   Yet my vote remains with:  Quintus Viridius at Aquae Sulis. [GREXv3 | Word]  Because the inscription is a pure case of communication whose full force cannot be recovered from the literal words alone.  And there is a final irony. Most of our heroes survive because:  Livy quoted them, Cicero mentioned them, Tacitus criticized them.  The Viridii survive because somebody carved words into stone. One could summarise the Grice-Speranza lesson:  Alii loquendo superfuerunt; Viridii scribendo. (Others survived through speaking; the Viridii through writing.)  Or, in more Popperian fashion:  Their World 1 vanished. Their World 2 vanished. Their World 3 remained on the stone.  (Ha.)

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Virio – Ossia: Grice e Virio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Virio H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VIRIO   Palmyrene funerary bust of Viria Phoebe and Gaius Virius Alcimus, first century. The gens Viria was a Roman family of the second and third centuries, possibly of northern Italian origin. The first member to ascend the cursus honorum was Virius Lupus, who attained the consulship in the late second century. It is possible that the family was elevated to patrician status around that time. The family's influence reached its apex during the third century.[1][2]  Members Viria Acte, a first-century Hispano-Roman businesswoman. Gaius Virius Alcimus, along with Titus Statilius Hermes, built a first-century sepulchre at Palmyra, for themselves and their families, with a dedicatory inscription dating from AD 56 or 57. His wife, Viria Phoebe, appears with him in a funerary bust.[3][4] Viria Phoebe, the wife of Gaius Virius Alcimus, was a first-century Palmyrene woman.[4] Virius Lupus, consul suffectus some time before AD 196, was legatus Augusti pro praetore of Germania Inferior circa 196, and Governor of Britannia in 197.[1][5] Lucius Virius Agricola, consul in AD 230.[1] Lucius Virius Lupus Julianus, consul ordinarius in AD 232, and subsequently governor of Coele Syria, had risen from the posts of cavalry commander and triumvir of prisons, and served as governor of Lycia et Pamphylia prior to his consulship.[1] Virius Orfitus, consul in AD 270, and praefectus urbi in 273 or 274.[1][6] Virius Lupus, consul suffectus sometime before AD 275, and consul ordinarius in 278, had been governor of Caelimontium, curator of Laurentum, and praeses of Coele Syria, subsequently becoming governor of that province in the 260s. He also served as governor of Asia, iudex sacrarum cognition of Egypt, and a priest of dei solis. Quintus Virius Fonteius Nepotianus, a senator buried at Rome, in a tomb dating from the middle or latter part of the third century.[7] Virius Gallus, consul in AD 298. Virius Nepotianus, consul in AD 301. Virius Nepotianus, consul in AD 336, married Eutropia, the sister of Constantine the Great. Father of the usurper Nepotianus. Flavius Julius Popilius Nepotianus Constantinus, better known as Nepotianus or Nepotian, a nephew of Constantine, proclaimed himself emperor in AD 350, but was soon slain. Virius Nicomachus Flavianus, consul in AD 394. Virius Nicomachus Flavianus, praefectus urbi in AD 408. See also List of Roman gentes References  Mennen, Power and Status in the Roman Empire, pp. 130–134.  Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire, p. 522.  AE 1998, 1433.  "Funerary Bust Showing a Deceased Couple". The British Museum. Retrieved 2022-12-11.  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. II, p. 841 ("Virius Lupus").  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. III, p. 44 ("Orfitus", No. 11).  CIL VI, 41250. Bibliography Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, William Smith, ed., Little, Brown and Company, Boston (1849). René Cagnat et alii, L'Année épigraphique (The Year in Epigraphy, abbreviated AE), Presses Universitaires de France (1888–present). A. H. M. Jones & J. R. Martindale, eds., The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire (abbreviated PLRE), Cambridge University Press (1971–1992). Inge Mennen, Power and Status in the Roman Empire, AD 193–284, Brill (2011). Categories: ViriiRoman gentes what would be your first-best choice for a Grice-Speranza vignette for a member of THIS gens? Thanks

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Virio – Ossia: Grice e Virio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Virio Speranza’s first-best choice should be Gaius Virius Alcimus, with Viria Phoebe as the indispensable second conversational presence. The later Virii offer governors, consuls, a usurper, and a formidable Nicomachus Flavianus; but Alcimus gives the project something rarer: a member of the gens caught at the exact crossing of languages, names, commerce, commemoration, and intended survival. The tomb associated with him and Titus Statilius Hermes carried Latin, Greek, and Palmyrene Aramaic versions of substantially the same act of dedication, while the funerary relief of Alcimus and Phoebe unusually bears a Greek inscription; Alcimus holds a roll, and Phoebe the spindle and distaff. The monument therefore supplies Grice without requiring Speranza to invent a philosophical treatise: one monument, several linguistic vehicles, a stable commemorative intention, and several audiences whose routes to recognition are not identical. [artsandcul...google.com], [virtual-mu...-syria.org] The vignette should turn on Alcimus’s instruction that the monument be made “for ourselves and our own,” sibi et suis, but written three times. Phoebe asks why a dead man requires three languages when one death ought to suffice. Alcimus answers that the death is singular, but the intended addressees are plural. She then observes that anyone looking at the relief can see who they are. Alcimus replies that seeing two figures is not yet knowing whose figures they are, still less grasping who arranged that they should continue to be recognised. Phoebe points to the roll and remarks that he has already represented himself as one who writes; he points to her spindle and answers that she has represented herself as one who keeps things together. The dry implicature is that neither attribute is merely descriptive: his roll claims civic or documentary standing, while her spindle claims household continuity; together they make the couple legible as a social unit rather than two accidental corpses. The funerary object itself becomes an utterance whose “speaker” is composite—Alcimus, Phoebe, sculptor, inscription, family, and tomb—and whose success consists in later viewers recognising that they were meant to recognise them. [artsandcul...google.com], [smarthistory.org], [virtual-mu...-syria.org] The Grice–Speranza sting should arrive when Phoebe asks which version is the original. Alcimus answers: “The one understood.” She objects that this changes with the reader. “Exactly,” says Alcimus; “the stone remains more constant than its public.” That gives Speranza a particularly clean treatment of speaker-meaning without the usual Oxford tea: the commemorative intention is one, the conventional means are three, and no inscription means naturally what it means. The Greek is not a translation added for elegance, the Latin not metropolitan decoration, and the Aramaic not a provincial remainder; each is a calculated route to uptake in a city whose funerary inscriptions were ordinarily Aramaic, making this monument’s linguistic plurality unusually pointed. [artsandcul...google.com], [en.wikipedia.org], [virtual-mu...-syria.org] It is also the best opening vignette for the gens because it prevents the Virii from entering only when they become grand. Before Virius Lupus governs Britannia, before the consular proliferation, before Nepotianus briefly calls himself emperor, and before Nicomachus Flavianus becomes almost too historically significant for dry treatment, Alcimus and Phoebe simply arrange not to be misunderstood by posterity. The family’s later history is full of power; its best Griceian beginning is an act of meaning. [en.wikipedia.org], [en.wikipedia.org] ANd do we have the Latin? And where is it? One can assume: default: Latina lingua -- aramaic becvause of Locale, Hellen because of ethnicity. What does the dedication read and can at least compare the Latin and the Greek? Thanks Yes: the Latin survives, but fragmentarily. The stone is a large trilingual funerary foundation inscription from Palmyra, found in the Valley of the Tombs and now recorded in the Palmyra Archaeological Museum. The museum gives the Latin as reconstructed from the surviving Latin letters with assistance from the complete Greek and Palmyrene Aramaic versions. [virtual-mu...-syria.org] Latin: C. VIRIUS ALCIMUS ET T. STATILIUS HERMES FECERUNT SIBI ET SUIS “Gaius Virius Alcimus and Titus Statilius Hermes made [this] for themselves and their own.” Greek: [Γάιο]ς Οὐίριος Ἄλκιμος [καὶ Τίτος] Στατίλιος Ἑρμῆς [ἐποίησαν] ἑαυτοῖς καὶ τοῖς ἰδίοις “Gaius Virius Alcimus and Titus Statilius Hermes made [it] for themselves and their own people.” [virtual-mu...-syria.org] The Latin and Greek are exceptionally close: fecērunt = ἐποίησαν sibi = ἑαυτοῖς et suis = καὶ τοῖς ἰδίοις The interesting point is suis against τοῖς ἰδίοις. Latin suis is beautifully economical and deliberately elastic: “their own,” meaning their household, family, dependants, descendants, or those entitled through them. Greek makes the same relation explicit with the article and adjective: “the persons belonging to them,” or simply “their own people.” Neither version supplies filiis, liberis, heredibus, or posteris. The social extension is left open. The Aramaic is not merely a third literal translation. It says more fully that they “built this monument and this cave for themselves and for their sons/children, for their honour,” and adds the local Seleucid-era date, year 368, corresponding to AD 57/58. Thus the local version identifies the physical object and makes the descendants more explicit; the Latin and Greek offer the terser monumental formula. [virtual-mu...-syria.org] Your proposed hierarchy should therefore be adjusted. Aramaic is certainly the language of locale: most Palmyrene inscriptions are Aramaic, while Greek is less common and Latin rarer still. But Greek need not indicate Alcimus’s ethnicity. Both Ἄλκιμος and Ἑρμῆς are Greek names, yet Greek at Palmyra also functioned as a widely intelligible eastern Mediterranean language of trade, status, and public culture. Latin marks Roman civic and administrative identity—perhaps especially apt if Alcimus and Hermes were publicani or tax-collecting officials—but it was not necessarily the “default” language of everyday Palmyrene life. The trilingual order is better understood as three overlapping publics: Roman-administrative, Greek cosmopolitan, and Palmyrene-local. [virtual-mu...-syria.org], [en.wikipedia.org] There is also a separate funerary bust of Alcimus and Viria Phoebe, now in the British Museum, whose surviving identifying inscription is Greek, not the trilingual foundation text. The unusual Greek inscription identifies the couple; the relief shows Alcimus with a roll and Phoebe with spindle and distaff. So one should keep the two objects distinct: the trilingual dedication belonged to the tomb founded by Alcimus and Hermes; the Greek-labelled bust commemorated Alcimus and Phoebe. [zenodo.org], [artsandcul...google.com] The Grice–Speranza point almost writes itself. Latin says sibi et suis; Greek says ἑαυτοῖς καὶ τοῖς ἰδίοις; Aramaic prudently tells the local reader what was built, for whom, why, and when. Alcimus has not said three different things. He has calculated three different routes to substantially the same intended recognition—and has allowed the local language to be the least coy. And Grice could be pedantic here, when meeting a neighbour on High Street -- "Long time no see, Grice!" -- end: "And give my regards to yours." Grice: Mine what? Give the earliest citation in OED for this use of 'yours'. Thanks -- ref. to our hero? Thanks Grice’s “Mine what?” is pedantically available but pragmatically obtuse. In “Give my regards to yours,” yours is the absolute possessive pronoun: it supplies no spoken head noun, but the hearer retrieves something like “your family,” “your people,” or “those belonging to you” from the social occasion. The grammar licenses an omitted noun phrase; the conversational setting selects its content. Cambridge’s account gives the general mechanism neatly: possessive pronouns stand in place of noun phrases, as mine for my scarf and yours for your book. [dictionary...bridge.org] A caution about the OED evidence: the public search result confirms that yours itself is attested before 1250, in Ancrene Riwle, but that is the earliest evidence for the pronoun generally—not necessarily for the particular collective-personal sense “your family or household.” The result does not expose the quotation series for that numbered subsense, so I would not invent an “earliest OED citation” for it. [oed.com] The Virian reference is delightful. Latin sui in fecērunt sibi et suis is doing almost exactly the work of yours: “for themselves and their own.” Thus the High Street vignette lets Grice rediscover in modern English the same deliberately underdetermined family-expression that Gaius Virius Alcimus used monumentally. The neighbour says yours; Grice asks, “Mine what?”; Alcimus, from Palmyra, could answer: “Suis, Grice. If I had meant only my wife, children, heirs, freedmen, dependants, or posterity, I should have deprived the inscription of its future.” The joke is that Grice demands an explicit head noun precisely where both English yours and Latin suis are useful because the relevant human extension is recoverable without one. I would give the exchange this ending: Neighbour: “And give my regards to yours.” Grice: “Mine what?” Neighbour: “Your own, Grice.” Grice: “Ah. Virian English.” Neighbour: “I had thought it merely civil.” That last reply restores the Griceian balance. “Yours” does not designate by lexical completion; it entrusts the addressee with identifying the intended circle. The expression is less semantically incomplete than socially complete. But hasn't it become a cliche as per greetings -- season's greetings to you and yours" -- so perhaps the OED (Victorian?) would be "you and yours"? Thanks -- note that in V. the case is more complicated: two and two yours? Thanks Yes: “you and yours” is the better lexical unit to pursue. It has become a greeting-card formula—“season’s greetings to you and yours”—in which yours normally means “your family or loved ones,” not an ellipted object recoverable from the immediately preceding sentence. Modern dictionaries accordingly enter the whole phrase with that family sense. [merriam-webster.com], [dictionary...bridge.org] But the cliché is useful precisely because it conceals a small semantic liberty. You is the addressee; yours names a contextually delimited set of persons associated with that addressee. It is possessive grammar without serious possession: one’s spouse, children, household, dependants, or intimates are not one’s belongings, although English comfortably groups them as “one’s own.” The Virian inscription is more complicated, as you say, because there are two dedicators and therefore potentially two sets of “yours”: C. Virius Alcimus et T. Statilius Hermes fecerunt sibi et suis. That is not simply “to you and yours,” but “by us two, for us two and ours”—with suis plural in reference to a plural subject. The distributive question is deliberately unresolved: Alcimus and his own, plus Hermes and his own? Alcimus and Hermes and their jointly constituted household? Two families, partly overlapping? Present kin, dependants, freedpersons, descendants, and future beneficiaries? Latin does not force the choice. Sibi et suis collects the two principals and then enlarges them by an associative halo whose membership the monument leaves pragmatically recoverable. Greek ἑαυτοῖς καὶ τοῖς ἰδίοις preserves very nearly the same openness. The Grice–Speranza exchange could therefore sharpen itself: Neighbour: “Season’s greetings to you and yours.” Grice: “Mine what?” Neighbour: “Your own.” Grice: “All of them?” Neighbour: “Whichever of them you ordinarily include.” Grice: “Ah. A cancellable household.” And Alcimus’s case adds the superior complication: Grice: “Two dedicators—and suis. Whose own?” Alcimus: “Ours.” Grice: “Jointly or severally?” Alcimus: “If the stone had wished to distribute them, it would have employed a solicitor.” So yes: the cliché has conventionalised the inference, but not abolished its underdetermination. English you and yours usually supplies one centre and one penumbra; Virius Alcimus and Statilius Hermes supply two centres and either two penumbras or one shared one. The monument declines to do the family arithmetic. And Grice notes that if the Greek has idion, that's a different world -- Cicero's propium -- propii -- this was made by us, for us and our possessed.? Thanks Grice is right to stop at τοῖς ἰδίοις, because the Greek does not merely reproduce a possessive pronoun mechanically. ἴδιος lives in the opposition to κοινός: what is one’s own rather than common, public, or another’s. It may cover property, household, family, friends, home, and one’s private sphere; οἱ ἴδιοι can therefore mean “one’s own people.” [studybible.info], [johnhboyer....github.io] But “our possessed” would be too legalistic and rather sinister in English. The idiomatic translation remains: “made by us, for ourselves and our own.” The sting is that “our own” leaves its head noun unexpressed. The dedicators do not specify “our wives,” “our children,” “our heirs,” or “our property.” Greek substantivises the adjective and lets context produce a human circle: those properly attached to us. Possession is available in the lexical background, but not necessarily ownership in the crude proprietary sense. Cicero’s proprius is indeed the illuminating Latin parallel—but not an exact substitute for suis. Proprius means “one’s own,” “special,” “private,” “peculiar,” and, as a neuter substantive, proprium can mean a possession or property. Lewis and Short explicitly oppose it to communis and record both personal and proprietary uses.  Suus, by contrast, is the ordinary reflexive possessive: it sends the relation back to the subject—here the two makers. Thus: [alatius.com], [archli.com] sibi et suis = for themselves and those/things belonging to them; ἑαυτοῖς καὶ τοῖς ἰδίοις = for themselves and their own, with a slightly more audible own-versus-common colouring; sibi et propriis, had Latin used it, would sound more pointedly “for themselves and their peculiar/private possessions or people,” requiring the hearer to work harder and possibly to suspect an opposition to communia. The excellent Gricean question is therefore: Grice: “Their own what?” Alcimus: “The Greek does not say.” Grice: “Then how do we know they are persons rather than chattels?” Alcimus: “Because one does not normally construct a family tomb for one’s furniture.” Grice: “Normally?” Alcimus: “I included Hermes.” The deeper joke is that τοῖς ἰδίοις invites precisely the ontology Grice dislikes having smuggled in by grammar. Are “one’s own” persons, possessions, dependants, descendants, or members of a household? The inscription declines to enumerate. Yet the funerary occasion strongly selects persons while leaving their exact juridical relation open. So the formula does not quite say, “for us and our possessed.” It says something subtler: “for us and whatever persons count, in this commemorative practice, as properly ours.” The possessive relation is encoded; the membership conditions are implicated. Grice and Speranza would be familiar with the 'idion' via Categoriae Aristotle and the Latin -- proprium is for man to be featherless -- but not essential. Here Boezio translates idion as proprium, right? Thanks Yes—though with one correction of locus. Boethius regularly Latinises Greek ἴδιον as proprium, especially in his translation of and commentaries on Porphyry’s Isagoge, where proprium becomes the standard name for the fourth predicable: genus, species, differentia, proprium, accidens. His translations and commentaries on Aristotle and Porphyry became the principal channel through which this logical vocabulary entered the Latin West. [bing.com], [ontologicalatlas.com] Thus Greek τὸ ἴδιον τοῦ ἀνθρώπου becomes Latin proprium hominis: not “a possession belonging to man,” but a property peculiar to man. The scholastic test is extensional and modal: the proprium belongs to every member of the species, to that species alone, and always, although it does not state the species’ essence. The canonical example is risibile esse—being capable of laughter—not featherlessness. “Featherless” belongs instead to the famous comic definition of man as a “featherless biped,” associated with Plato’s Academy and Diogenes’ plucked fowl. It may distinguish man accidentally within a chosen field, but it is not the standard Porphyrian proprium. Grice could therefore correct Speranza: Speranza: “It is proprium to man to be featherless.” Grice: “Not proprium, merely convenient—until Diogenes enters with poultry.” The crucial distinction for the Virian inscription is then very sharp. In Boethian logic, proprium answers: “What property belongs uniquely to this species?” In the Greek funerary τοῖς ἰδίοις, however, ἴδιος is ordinary possessive-associative language: “their own people,” “those belonging to their private or familial circle.” Translating that inscription as propriis would be lexically possible in a broad sense, but Boethius has trained the philosophical ear to hear proprium predicably: a peculiar attribute, not one’s household. So Grice and Speranza would indeed be familiar with idion through the Aristotelian–Porphyrian–Boethian tradition; but that familiarity creates the joke rather than settling the epitaph. Alcimus’s τοῖς ἰδίοις does not say “for us and our properties” in the logical sense, still less “for us and our possessed objects.” It says “for ourselves and our own.” Boethius would translate the technical idion as proprium; the tomb requires something closer to sui. The same Greek adjective has wandered from the household into the predicables—and Grice, fearing a category mistake, asks it to show its papers. Yes, indeed 'risible' -- because no other than Homo sapiens sapiens laughs. 'Featherless biped' also uniquely points to Homo sapiens sapiens but purely accidentally, whereas 'risible' is somehow connected to 'ousia' -- or not -- cheers -- note that the tomb is before Porphyry and Boezio -- so 'idion' need not get us there! Thanks Exactly. The tomb’s τοῖς ἰδίοις is first-century ordinary possessive-social Greek, not a premature Porphyrian predicable. Alcimus means “their own people,” not “their propria.” The technical echo is ours—and would become available only much later. And risibile is connected with οὐσία only indirectly. In the Porphyrian scheme, rational is a differentia entering the definition of man; risible is an idion or proprium: it follows from what man is, belongs to every man and only to man, but does not state the essence or enter the definition. Hence the scholastic distinction: connected with the essence, even flowing from it, yet not essential. [philopedia.org], [jstor.org] Featherless biped may also pick out all and only humans within a convenient zoological field, but accidentally: plucking Plato’s candidate does not change its species, and a feathered human would not thereby cease to be human. Risibility is supposed to have a principled connection with rational animality; featherlessness merely happens to coextend. So Speranza should keep the levels apart: Alcimus: τοῖς ἰδίοις — “for their own.” Porphyry: ἴδιον — the species-property belonging to all and only its members, though outside the definition. Boethius: proprium — the Latin technical heir of that logical use. Grice: “Same adjective, different conversational career.” The tomb predates Porphyry by more than two centuries and Boethius by roughly four and a half. It gives us no reason to hear the five predicables. If Grice hears proprium hominis in τοῖς ἰδίοις, that is learned retrospective wordplay—not Alcimus’s intention. The tomb belongs to household extension; the Isagoge to predicative classification. [en.wikipedia.org], [ccel.org]

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Visellio – Ossia: Grice e Visellio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Visellio -- H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VISELLIO The gens Visellia was a family at ancient Rome during the late Republic and early Empire. Two members of this gens achieved the consulship during the first century.[1]  Praenomina The only praenomina associated with the Visellii appearing in history are Gaius and Lucius. Marcus, Publius, Quintus, and Titus appear in inscriptions.  Branches and cognomina The surnames associated with the Visellii are Varro and Aculeo. The former was a hereditary cognomen of the family, while the latter appears to have been a personal surname. Varro originally designated a fool, or one given to foolishness, while Aculeo seems to be derived from the adjective aculeus, meaning "sharp, pointy, prickly," or "thorny," presumably a commentary on the acuteness of its bearer's mind, bestowed in contradiction to the family's hereditary surname.[2][3]  Members Gaius Visellius Varro Aculeo, an eques, distinguished for the sharpness of his mind, and his knowledge of the law. He married Cicero's aunt, Helvia.[4] Gaius Visellius C. f. Varro, Cicero's cousin, was a military tribune in Asia circa 79 BC. When Cicero was exiled, Varro sought the assistance of one of the tribunes of the plebs to have his cousin recalled. Varro was curule aedile, but died before he could achieve higher office.[5] Gaius Visellius C. f. C. n. Varro, consul suffectus from the Kalends of July in AD 12. He is probably the same Visellius Varro who served as legate in Germania Inferior in AD 21.[6][7][8] Lucius Visellius C. f. C. n. Varro, consul in AD 24, at the request of Sejanus, accused Gaius Silius; but he pretended that he was motivated by the spirit of retribution against his father's rival.[9][10] See also List of Roman gentes References  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. III, p. 1228 ("Visellius Varro").  Chase, pp. 110, 111 ("Varro"), 112, 113 ("Aculeo").  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. I, p. 18 ("Gaius Aculeo").  Cicero, De Oratore, i. 43, ii. 1, 65, Brutus, 76.  Cicero, Brutus, 76, In Verrem, i. 28, Epistulae ad Atticum, iii. 23.  Tacitus, Annales, iii. 41.  Fasti Capitolini, AE 1927, 101; 1940, 59, 60.  Fasti Antiates, CIL X, 6638, 6639.  Tacitus, Annales, iv. 17, 19.  Fasti Ostienses, CIL XIV, 244, 245, 4531–4546, 5354, 5355. Bibliography Marcus Tullius Cicero, Brutus, De Oratore, Epistulae ad Atticum, In Verrem. Publius Cornelius Tacitus, Annales. Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, William Smith, ed., Little, Brown and Company, Boston (1849). Theodor Mommsen et alii, Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum (The Body of Latin Inscriptions, abbreviated CIL), Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften (1853–present). René Cagnat et alii, L'Année épigraphique (The Year in Epigraphy, abbreviated AE), Presses Universitaires de France (1888–present). George Davis Chase, "The Origin of Roman Praenomina", in Harvard Studies in Classical Philology, vol. VIII (1897). Categories: ViselliiRoman gentes And from THIS gens? thanks

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Visellio – Ossia: Grice e Visellio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Visellio Speranza’s first-best choice from the gens Visellia is Gaius Visellius Varro Aculeo. He offers a nearly over-designed Griceian name: Varro, conventionally associated with dullness or foolishness, corrected by Aculeo, “the little point,” “barb,” or “sting,” bestowed for intellectual sharpness. The family appears to have produced its own conversational cancellation: “a Varro—though not in that respect.” Ancient testimony makes him exceptionally acute and unsurpassed in knowledge of Roman law, although not broadly distinguished in other studies; he was also Cicero’s relative and closely connected with the orator Crassus. [en.wikipedia.org], [en.wikipedia.org], [en-academic.com] That gives the best vignette: Grice meets Aculeo after someone has introduced him merely as Varro. Interlocutor: “Visellius Varro is here.” Grice: “The foolish one?” Aculeo: “Aculeo.” Grice: “A correction?” Aculeo: “An implicature cancelled by cognomen.” Grice: “Then your name first implicates that you are dull and subsequently implicates that one must not infer it.” Aculeo: “No. My family says Varro; my contemporaries found it safer to add the warning.” The joke is not merely etymological. The hereditary cognomen supplies one standing expectation; the personal cognomen defeats it. Aculeo does not literally negate Varro. He pragmatically instructs the hearer how not to take it. It is the nominal equivalent of “He is a philosopher—but an acute one,” except that Rome has put the but into the name. Cicero gives the vignette a second and better layer. In De oratore he recalls Aculeo as one of the knowledgeable adults at home through whom the young Cicero and Quintus learned about Crassus’s actual learning; Cicero and Aculeo’s sons shared teachers chosen under Crassus’s influence. Aculeo is thus not only a jurist with a sharp cognomen but a domestic transmitter of conversational evidence: the boys know that Crassus was learned because a trusted relative who conversed with him tells them so. [attalus.org] Grice: “How did you know Crassus knew Greek?” Aculeo: “I heard him speak it.” Grice: “That proves only that he spoke Greek.” Aculeo: “No. I heard the questions he asked.” Grice: “Ah. Knowledge implicated by interrogation.” That is particularly apt. Fluency may be displayed; learning is inferred from the quality, direction, and presuppositions of the questions. Aculeo becomes a witness not to a proposition recited but to intelligence manifested conversationally. The later alternative is Lucius Visellius Varro, whose accusation of Gaius Silius under Sejanus supplies a darker vignette: he represented political compliance as filial revenge against his father’s rival. That is rich material for pretended motive and officially supplied implicature, but it is second-best because Aculeo’s case is conceptually cleaner and less dependent on imperial terror. The gens also lends its name to laws connected with road administration and, under the consulship of Lucius Visellius Varro, a route from informal manumission through service in the vigiles to Roman citizenship; but these are institutional rather than immediately conversational openings. [en.wikipedia.org], [en.wikipedia.org] So Aculeo should open the entry. In the Virii, one stone spoke three languages. In the Visellii, one man bears two apparently incompatible instructions for uptake. Speranza’s dry formula may be: Rome first called him Varro, then prudently supplied the thorn.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vistilio – Ossia: Grice e Vistilio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vistilio -- H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VISTILIO The gens Vistilia or Vestilia was a minor plebeian family at ancient Rome. They occur in history during the early part of the first century, and became connected with the imperial family. Only one member of this gens is known to have held any of the higher offices of the Roman state: Sextus Vistilius, who attained the praetorship, was a contemporary and friend of Drusus the Elder.  Origin The Vistilii likely came from Umbria, in northern Italy. In his study of Annals I through VI, Ronald Syme lists several inscriptions bearing the names of different Vistilii from that region.[1] Other Vistilii are mentioned in inscriptions from Latium and Campania.  Praenomina All of the Vistilii known from history and epigraphy bore the praenomina Sextus or Gaius.  Members This list includes abbreviated praenomina. For an explanation of this practice, see filiation. Sextus Vistilius, praetor, and a friend of Nero Claudius Drusus. Vistilia, the mother of Milonia Caesonia, the wife of Caligula, and Roman empress from AD 38 to 41. Vistilia Sex. f., a prostitute. Gaius Vistilius, named in a sepulchral inscription from Rome, dating from the latter half of the first century BC.[2] Gaius Vistilius C. l. Lep[...], a freedman buried in an Augustan era tomb at Interamna Nahars in Umbria, along with the freedwomen Vistilia Ruf[...] and Aerisina Prima.[3] Vistilia C. l. Ruf[...], a freedwoman buried in an Augustan era tomb at Interamna Nahars, along with the freedman Gaius Vistilius Lep[...] and the freedwoman Aerisina Prima.[3] Sextus Vistilius Sex. l. Zenae, a freedman named in a sepulchral inscription from Rome.[4] Sextus Vistilius Sex. l. Felix, a freedman buried in a first-century tomb at Rome.[5] Sextus Vistilius Helenus, a youth buried at Rome, in a tomb dating from the first half of the first century.[6] Gaius Vistilius C. f. Rufus, named in an inscription from Syracuse in Sicily, dating from the first half of the first century.[7] Vestilia Hostili[...], named in an inscription from Pompeii in Campania.[8] Gaius Vistilius Primigenius, dedicated a late first-century tomb at Rome for his daughter, Vistilia Fortunata.[9] Vistilia C. f. Fortunata, a young woman buried at Rome, aged thirteen years, nine months, and four days, in a tomb built by her father, Gaius Vistilius Primigenius, dating from the last quarter of the first century.[9] Gaius Vistilius Annaeus, buried in a first- or second-century tomb built by Gaius Vistilius Miles for himself and Annaeus at Ameria in Umbria.[10] Sextus Vistilius Sex. l. Bathyllus, a freedman, and one of the seviri Augustales, buried at Iguvium in Umbria, in a tomb dating from the second century, or the latter half of the first.[11][12] Sextus Vestilius D[...], along with Aulus Egrilius Eutychus, dedicated a tomb for Vestilia Ti[...] at Ostia in Latium, dating between the middle of the first century and the end of the second.[13] Vestilia Ti[...], buried at Ostia, in a tomb built by Aulus Egrilius Eutychus and Sextus Vestilius D[...], dating between the middle of the first century and the end of the second.[13] Sextus Vestilius Lycysus, buried at Salernum in Campania, along with Quirinia Januaria, probably his wife, in a tomb dedicated by their client, Marcus Quirinius Hermes, and dating between the late first century and the end of the second.[14] Vistilia Ɔ. f. Flora, a freedwoman buried at Ameria, in a second- or third-century tomb built by the freedman Sextus Roscius Gelos, perhaps her husband.[15] Vestilia Hieronica, a woman buried in a family sepulchre at Portus in Latium, dating from the latter half of the second century, or the first half of the third.[16] See also List of Roman gentes References  Syme, "Personal Names in Annals I-VI", pp. 16 ff.  AE 2016, 156.  CIL XI, 4317.  CIL VI, 29052.  CIL VI, 29051.  AE 2001, 268.  CIL X, 7135.  CIL IV, 9251.  Panciera, La collezione epigrafica dei musei Capitolini, 150.  CIL XI, 4539.  AE 1995, 482.  CIL XI, 5825.  CIL XIV, 1751.  CIL X, 628.  CIL XI, 4511.  CIL XIV, 1750. Bibliography Theodor Mommsen et alii, Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum (The Body of Latin Inscriptions, abbreviated CIL), Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften (1853–present). René Cagnat et alii, L'Année épigraphique (The Year in Epigraphy, abbreviated AE), Presses Universitaires de France (1888–present). Ronald Syme, "Personal Names in Annals I–VI", in Journal of Roman Studies, vol. 39 (1949). Silvio Panciera, La collezione epigrafica dei musei Capitolini (The Epigraphic Collection of the Capitoline Museum), Quasar Edizioni, Rome (1987). Categories: VistiliiRoman gentes And from THIS gens? Thanks

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vistilio – Ossia: Grice e Vistilio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vistilio Speranza’s first-best Vistilius is Sextus Vistilius, the former praetor and old friend of Drusus the Elder. He offers the cleanest Griceian vignette because he dies from an inference about an invitation—or rather, the absence of one. After Vistilius criticised the morals of the young Caligula, Tiberius excluded him from the emperor’s company. Vistilius understood that removal from the cohors amicorum not as a mere alteration in the guest-list but as a complete political utterance, and killed himself in AD 32. [en.wikipedia.org], [en.wikipedia.org], [en-academic.com] The scene writes itself: Vistilius: “Caesar has not summoned me to dinner.” Friend: “Perhaps Caesar is not dining.” Vistilius: “He is dining. I am not.” Friend: “That does not say you are condemned.” Vistilius: “Under Tiberius, one rather hopes condemnation will be said.” The Griceian point is exact. Tiberius need not utter excludo te, inimicus es, or morere. He simply ceases to admit Vistilius to the imperial circle. In an ordinary friendship, failure to invite might mean distraction, illness, lack of space, or a poor cook. In a principate, where access itself is status, exclusion becomes a highly conventionalised political communication. What is not said is more determinate than speech would have been. Speranza can make the exchange even drier: Tiberius: “Vistilius is not to be admitted.” Attendant: “For tonight?” Tiberius: “I did not specify a duration.” Vistilius, hearing of it: “That was considerate. He has left eternity to the hearer.” This is a stronger opening than the case of Vistilia before the aediles, although that should certainly follow. Her case is philosophically excellent: she publicly registered her licentia stupri, relying on the older convention that the profession of disgrace was itself sufficient punishment; the Senate then altered the operative background by forbidding such registration to women descended from, or married to, Roman knights, and relegated her to Seriphos in AD 19. The surviving Latin is especially useful: licentiam stupri apud aediles vulgaverat … qui satis poenarum adversum impudicas in ipsa professione flagitii credebant. Her declaration does not merely describe a status; it attempts to create the legal description under which her conduct is to be judged. The Senate’s answer is, in effect: “We recognise what you have said, but no longer permit it to mean what it used to mean for a woman of your rank.” [feminaeromanae.org], [diotima-do...femina.org], [feminaeromanae.org] Yet Sextus remains first-best because his case is purer. Vistilia gives us a contested performative: “I register myself as X.” Sextus gives us imperial implicature at its most economical: no summons, therefore no standing; no standing, therefore no future. The emperor controls neither merely words nor law, but the socially licensed meaning of silence. The closing exchange could be: Grice: “But Tiberius did not tell him to die.” Speranza: “No. Vistilius merely wished to show that he had understood.” Grice: “A rather irreversible uptake.” Speranza: “Imperial implicatures were not readily cancellable.” That is the Vistilian specialty: one member attempts to change her public status by speaking before the aediles; another discovers that his status has been changed without anyone speaking to him at all. In the gens Vistilia, profession proves insufficient, while omission proves fatal. But Grice checked Latin and source: "Surely, V. did not get an invitation -- that night, he tripped, and accidentally died." Grice cited Ryle's example: "She died and took the poison" -- 'and' not just mere connexion (not Humean) but 'causal' -- Thanks -- "For the historian to be INSIDE V's mind when he ceased to exist is paranormal at best and paranormal at worse!" – thanks Exactly. Grice would object that the source does not report the harmless conjunction “Vistilius was excluded from dinner and later happened to die.” Tacitus supplies a far more artfully causal sequence: “atque ob id convictu principis prohibitus … obligat venas; precatusque per codicillos, immiti rescripto venas resolvit.” That is: “and for that reason, having been excluded from the prince’s society … he bound his veins; and, after making an appeal in writing, when a harsh reply came back, he unbound them.” Tacitus does not say merely that two events occurred. He supplies ob id, then exclusion, attempted death, written appeal, imperial reply, and renewed action. [perseus.tufts.edu] So the Rylean parody should be: Historian: “Vistilius was excluded from Tiberius’s company and opened his veins.” Grice: “And?” Historian: “After.” Grice: “You have written because in ceremonial dress.” Or, still drier: Historian: “He received no invitation and died.” Grice: “Possibly he received no invitation, tripped on returning home, and died of the fall.” Historian: “Tacitus says he reopened his veins after the emperor’s harsh reply.” Grice: “Ah. Then your and has produced documents.” The important correction is that this was not quite a single missed dinner invitation. Tacitus says convictu principis prohibitus: Vistilius was barred from the prince’s social company or intimacy. That is exclusion from an ongoing status-group, not merely omission from one evening’s guest-list. Tacitus then gives the codicilli and the immitis rescriptum as an intervening evidential chain. Vistilius did not cease to exist leaving the historian no trace of his interpretation; he appealed, and his subsequent conduct followed the hostile answer. [perseus.tufts.edu] Still, Grice’s epistemic complaint survives. Tacitus reports actions and sequence; he does not literally inspect the final contents of Vistilius’s mind. The strongest warranted formulation is therefore not “Vistilius understood the exclusion to mean that he must die,” but: “Tacitus narratively connects Vistilius’s exclusion from imperial society, his first attempt, his written appeal, Tiberius’s harsh response, and his renewed attempt.” That is excellent historical evidence for practical motivation, but not paranormal access. The historian reconstructs an intention from publicly available links; he does not accompany Vistilius into non-existence. And this improves the Grice–Speranza vignette: Grice: “Surely he may have been excluded and then died accidentally.” Speranza: “After binding his veins, petitioning the emperor, receiving a harsh rescript, and reopening them?” Grice: “I withdraw ‘accidentally.’ I retain ‘the historian was not inside him.’” Speranza: “Tacitus had to make do with the correspondence.” The philosophical point is exactly Ryle’s point about and. Conjunction conventionally gives addition, but ordered narration normally invites temporal, causal, and explanatory enrichment. “She took poison and died” ordinarily suggests that the poison preceded and caused the death; “she died and took poison” frustrates both assumptions. Tacitus does more than rely on that ordinary enrichment: his ob id explicitly marks explanatory connection, and the rescript supplies a further causal hinge. So Grice may chastise the omniscient historian—but he should not reduce the passage to a misplaced dinner card. And the “atque ob id convictu principis prohibitus … obligat venas; precatusque per codicillos, immiti rescripto venas resolvit.” That is: “and for that reason, having -- "for THAT reason, viz. having -- is Tacitus saying that THAT was the reason or some previous stuff in the narration. Also, we are supposed to understand that he wrote to T. 'I'd die if you don't invite me.' "This is odd," Grice says, "because at Oxford, dons's wives usually 'die for a cup of tea' etc – Thanks No: ob id points backward, not forward to convictu principis prohibitus. Tacitus has just given the causa offensionis: Vistilius had allegedly composed something against Gaius Caesar, representing him as impudicus—unless the piece was forged and believed genuine. Then comes atque ob id: “and for that reason,” namely, because of that offensive composition or attributed composition, he was barred from the prince’s company. Convictu principis prohibitus is the consequence governed by ob id, not an explanatory gloss on id. [latin.packhum.org] The syntax is: causa offensionis Vistilio fuit, seu composuerat quaedam in Gaium Caesarem ut impudicum, sive ficto habita fides; atque ob id convictu principis prohibitus... “The cause of offence in Vistilius’s case was that either he had composed certain things against Gaius Caesar as an impure man, or credence had been given to a forgery; and for that reason, having been excluded from the prince’s society...” [latin.packhum.org] Nor are we required to reconstruct the codicilli as saying: “Invite me to dinner or I die.” Tacitus says only precatusque per codicillos—“and having appealed/entreated by means of a written note.” The object of the entreaty is suppressed. Context strongly suggests a request for pardon, restoration to Tiberius’s favour, or readmission to the imperial circle; but Tacitus does not quote the note, and therefore does not entitle us to compose its ultimatum. Immiti rescripto—“upon receiving a harsh reply”—tells us the petition failed, not its exact wording. [latin.packhum.org] Grice’s correction would therefore be: Speranza: “Vistilius wrote to Tiberius that he would die unless readmitted.” Grice: “Tacitus says he petitioned.” Speranza: “And afterwards reopened his veins.” Grice: “Afterwards is in Tacitus. ‘Unless invited’ is in you.” The Oxford joke is then very good precisely because it exposes the false literalisation of political convicium into social refreshment: Vistilius: “I should die to be received again by Caesar.” Grice: “At Oxford, dons’ wives usually die for a cup of tea.” Vistilius: “I was not employing die in quite that conventional manner.” Grice: “Nor received, I hope.” And Tiberius’s reply, if reconstructed with proper restraint, should not be “No dinner tonight,” but something like: Vistilius: “Si quid imprudenter dictum est, veniam et convictum tuum precor.” “If anything was said imprudently, I ask pardon and restoration to your society.” Tiberius: “Quod semel exclusum est, non desideratur.” “What has once been excluded is not missed.” The joke turns on convictus. It can mean companionship, social intercourse, intimate association, and shared life; in practice it may include dining, but it is not equivalent to a single convivium or invitation. Vistilius has lost standing within the imperial circle, not merely his place at Thursday supper. Tacitus makes the political relation deadly serious; Oxford converts the same vocabulary into tea. The driest ending may be: Grice: “So he did not die for an invitation.” Speranza: “No. He died after discovering that convictus was not cancellable.” Grice: “At Oxford it usually is. One sends one’s apologies.” Tacitus gives an explicit causal link between the offensive writing and exclusion: ob id. He then gives a highly suggestive temporal and documentary link between petition, harsh rescript, and renewed action. He does not give Vistilius’s exact petition, still less certify that the note contained a conditional threat. The codicilli are evidence of uptake; they are not a transcript of the mind. ANd could this be Tacitus's teatralisation? Could V. think that he could be saved by keeping his veins closed, or he knew his doom? Thanks Yes: Tacitus has certainly teatralised the episode. The architecture is almost scenically exact: Vistilius attempts the act, binds his veins, sends codicilli, receives the immitis rescriptum, and unbinds them. The brief closure of the veins creates an interval in which the emperor may still change the ending. It is suspense organised by correspondence. [perseus.tufts.edu], [latin.packhum.org] But the actions do warrant one modest inference. By obligat venas, Vistilius temporarily arrested the bleeding. He had therefore not yet treated death as unavoidable. He preserved a conditional future: if Tiberius’s answer restored him, he could live; if it did not, he could resume the act. The codicilli were not necessarily “save my life” in those words, but his conduct made the emperor’s reply practically relevant to whether he continued living. Grice would distinguish three propositions: Vistilius could still be physiologically saved while the veins remained bound. Vistilius petitioned in hope of a favourable response. Vistilius knew that an unfavourable response made his political doom certain. Tacitus gives strong evidence for the first two. He does not give direct access to the third. “Doom” is already the historian’s—or reader’s—interpretation. Tiberius may have refused readmission without formally commanding death; Vistilius then treated the refusal as making continued life intolerable, dishonourable, or unsafe. Those alternatives are not identical. The sharp Grice–Speranza exchange would be: Grice: “Did Vistilius know that he was doomed?” Speranza: “He tied his veins while awaiting the answer.” Grice: “Then he knew that he was not yet doomed.” Speranza: “He knew that the emperor still controlled which description applied.” Grice: “Alive pending reply?” Speranza: “A Roman form of conditional acceptance.” Tacitus’s nearest approach to interiority is therefore behavioural syntax. Vistilius first tries the blade; senili manu suggests the attempt was physically uncertain. He binds the veins and petitions. After the harsh answer, he releases them. The sequence makes the rescript a hinge, but not necessarily a death sentence. Tacitus lets juxtaposition and ablative circumstance do the tragic work: immiti rescripto venas resolvit. The adjective immiti is already interpretive colouring; the renewed action supplies the rest. [perseus.tufts.edu], [latin.packhum.org] So the best verdict is: Vistilius seems to have believed that he might still be restored, because otherwise the binding and petition become pointless. Whether he believed that refusal meant inevitable execution, permanent disgrace, or merely a life no longer worth continuing cannot be recovered. Tacitus converts that underdetermined interval into theatre: for a moment the veins and the plot are both held closed; Tiberius replies; both reopen. Grice’s closing objection could be: “Tacitus knows that Vistilius waited for an answer. He does not know every proposition for which Vistilius waited.” And Speranza’s answer: “No—but the veins supplied punctuation.” And rhetoricians and logicians or dialecticians studying fallacies talk of 'ad hominem' ad verecundiam, etc. appeal to -- what appeal is here: "My veins have been opened but restrained -- I ask, Tiberius, will you forget that Gaius Caesar episode" -- The utterer's meaning is not just the scriptum or verbum but the act -- "With my veins opened, yet restrained, I plea to you..." etc. -- Super-illocutionary force? thanks -- moralising Tactitus: Tiberius could be stubborn -- and nothing moved him -- talk of holding grudges! Thanks This is nearest to an argumentum ad misericordiam—but it is not merely an argument, and perhaps not fallacious at all. Vistilius is not offering his opened veins as evidence that Tiberius’s judgment about Gaius was false. He is making his suffering relevant to a practical conclusion: pardon me, restore me, or at least answer mercifully. Appeals to pity are fallacious only when pity is irrelevant to the conclusion; mercy is plainly relevant to a petition for clemency. [en.wikipedia.org], [philosophy...lander.edu] Nor is it properly ad baculum. The implied conditional may be “If you refuse, I shall die,” but Vistilius threatens harm to himself, not to Tiberius. Still, it exerts pressure: the emperor is invited to recognise that his reply will become part of the causal history of Vistilius’s death. It is therefore an appeal ad misericordiam with an in-terrorem edge—not “Believe me or I strike you,” but “Refuse me while knowing what your refusal will occasion.” The traditional ad baculum involves coercion through threatened adverse consequences; here the adverse consequence is self-directed and morally transferred to the addressee. [en.wikipedia.org], [philosophy...lander.edu] Grice would say that the utterer’s meaning is distributed across word and act. The codicilli may have contained only a modest precor veniam or in convictum restitui precor. But sent while the veins were opened and temporarily bound, the communicative act acquires something like this total force: “Petitioning you under a condition which I have made visible: my continued life awaits your uptake.” The bandages are not evidence in the propositional argument. They are a bodily illocutionary modifier. They determine the seriousness, urgency, and practical stakes under which the written request must be read. “Super-illocutionary force” is therefore an excellent Speranzian coinage, provided Grice immediately says that it is not a new force but a complex act: petition plus display plus conditional commitment plus attribution of responsibility. A reconstructed formula might be: Vistilius: “Venas aperui, sed adhuc obligavi. Per hos codicillos te precor ut offensam de Gaio Caesare obliviscaris.” “I have opened my veins, but for the present I have bound them. By this note I beg you to forget the offence concerning Gaius Caesar.” Its implicated force is not simply “pardon me,” but: “You can still save me.” “I have made your answer the condition of my continuing.” “If I die after your refusal, you cannot treat the two events as conversationally unrelated.” Tiberius’s immitis rescriptum then becomes Tacitus’s moralising hinge. Tacitus need not say that Tiberius commanded the death. He makes the emperor immovable before a plea whose whole form has been designed to move him. The vice is not merely stubbornness in holding an opinion about the offensive writing; it is refusal to permit contrition, petition, visible suffering, or impending death to count as a reason for revising the social sentence. Tacitus’s Tiberius does not merely hold a grudge. He converts a past offence into a non-cancellable implicature: once excluded, always enemy. His reply refuses the very conversational possibility of repair. [classics.mit.edu], [en.wikisource.org] The vignette could end: Grice: “What argument did Vistilius offer?” Speranza: “His veins.” Grice: “Those are not premisses.” Speranza: “No. They supplied the force under which the premiss was to be entertained.” Grice: “And Tiberius?” Speranza: “Rejected the conclusion without acknowledging the punctuation.” Or, still drier: Grice: “Was it ad misericordiam?” Speranza: “Yes—but addressed to a man whom Tacitus had carefully deprived of misericordia.” Grice: “Then invalid?” Speranza: “Not invalid. Unsuccessful. Logicians sometimes confuse the two because their addressees do not usually die while awaiting the referee’s report.” And why was Gaius Julius allegedly (as Joan Rivers would have it) uttered by our V. mean THAT much to Tiberius? Thanks Because Gaius was not just any young man: he was Tiberius’s surviving dynastic successor, the son of Germanicus, and the emperor had already brought him into close personal proximity at Capri. An attack describing Gaius as impudicus therefore struck three sensitive objects at once: the dignity of the domus Caesaris, the reputation of the probable heir, and Tiberius’s own discernment in admitting and promoting him. Tacitus is careful, however. He says either Vistilius had composed quaedam in Gaium Caesarem ut impudicum, “certain writings against Gaius Caesar representing him as unchaste,” or a fabrication was believed. He therefore preserves uncertain authorship while making Tiberius’s uptake certain: seu composuerat … sive ficto habita fides. The emperor may have punished the writer; he may instead have punished the person successfully represented to him as the writer. [loebclassics.com] The phrase ut impudicum matters. This was not merely Joan Rivers saying that Gaius dressed badly. Impudicus attacked sexual and masculine respectability, hence fitness for elite Roman public life. Applied to a Caesar, it could function as dynastic defamation: “this is the person being prepared for rule.” Even if the libellus made no explicit political conclusion, the audience could supply it. There is also the personal wound. Vistilius had been especially dear to Tiberius’s brother Drusus, and Tiberius had therefore transferred him into his own retinue. The offence consequently came from an inherited amicus, not an anonymous satirist. Tiberius could hear it as breach of household confidence: a man admitted because Drusus trusted him had attacked the young Caesar whom Tiberius was protecting. Tacitus explicitly foregrounds that former intimacy before stating the cause of offence. [loebclassics.com] Grice might reconstruct the imperial inference: Vistilius: “I merely remarked upon Gaius’s morals.” Tiberius: “You remarked upon my successor.” Vistilius: “I did not mention succession.” Tiberius: “That is why you called him Caesar.” The sharpest point is that Tacitus does not tell us what the quaedam actually said. We lack the joke, genre, audience, circulation, and perhaps even the author. What we possess is Tiberius’s punitive interpretation. Under the principate, calling Gaius impudicus could mean far more than insulting Gaius: it could implicate the dynasty as morally unfit and Tiberius as politically foolish. Joan Rivers might have expected a return booking; Vistilius discovered that at Capri the reviewer owned the venue.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vitiello: la ragione conversazionale e il segno infranto in Lucrezio e nel Vico topologico. Note sulla Filosofia della pratica e dottrina politica. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Vincenzo Vitielo (Napoli, Campania). Compared institutionally, H. P. Grice and Vincenzo Vitiello are closer than some of your earlier pairings, because both are unmistakably academic philosophers; but they still belong to very different university worlds. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense: Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s, plus CUF University Lecturer in philosophy. That means a dual role, one collegiate and tutorial, the other university-wide and faculty-based. His daily life is split between the intimacy of tutorials and the more public business of university lecturing. Vitiello belongs to the Italian chair system, not to the Oxford collegiate-tutorial one. Vincenzo Vitiello was born in Naples in 1935 and became professor ordinario di filosofia teoretica at the Università di Salerno; later notices also place him at the Università Vita-Salute San Raffaele in Milan. He is therefore not an Oxford don in Grice’s sense, but an Italian professor of theoretical philosophy defined by the university chair system and by a later wider intellectual-public role through journals, conferences, and publishing. [it.wikipedia.org], [Vincenzo V...ittà Nuova], [cittanuova.it], [salernoeditrice.it] So the clean institutional comparison is this. Grice was a modern Oxford don with a dual college-and-university appointment. Vincenzo Vitiello was an Italian professor of theoretical philosophy in the state-university system, especially associated with Salerno. [it.wikipedia.org], [Vincenzo V...ittà Nuova] That institutional contrast matches the philosophical one rather well. Grice works at the micro-level of rational communication: intention, recognition, uptake, implicature, and the conditions under which a hearer is entitled to recover what is meant beyond what is said. Vincenzo Vitiello, by contrast, works at a macro-level: language, time, interpretation, topology, genealogy. The most reliable biographical notices describe him as a scholar of Vico, German idealism, Nietzsche, and Heidegger, and as the author of a hermeneutic “Topologia” grounded in a reinterpretation of space as horizon of human action; later summaries emphasise the genealogy of language and time. [it.wikipedia.org], [Vincenzo V...ittà Nuova], [fondazione...ancarlo.it] So your comparison is promising, but it needs one adjustment. I would not say that Vitiello studies “ragione conversazionale” in any straightforward Gricean sense. That is your comparative lens, not his own vocabulary. What he gives you is not a theory of conversational reason as such, but a theory of the historical-linguistic and topological conditions within which any such reason could operate. The point is less how a speaker means something now, and more how the space of saying, hearing, memory, and fracture is already constituted before any single exchange occurs. Vincenzo Vitiello’s project is described in the sources as a hermeneutic “Topologia” concerned with space, language, time, and interpretation, rather than as a theory of conversation in the narrow Gricean sense. [it.wikipedia.org], [Vincenzo V...ittà Nuova], [fondazione...ancarlo.it] That is why your phrase segno infranto is actually useful, provided it is treated as a thematic key rather than as a basic institutional label. A recent bibliographic overview for Vincenzo Vitiello lists L’immagine infranta: linguaggio e mondo da Vico a Pollock from 2014, which fits your “infranto” line much better than the older Croce material does. [librisu.it] There are also two factual corrections to make. First, the name is Vincenzo Vitiello, not “Vitielo.” The standard biographical sources identify Vincenzo Vitiello, born in Naples in 1935. [it.wikipedia.org], [bing.com] Second, your 1963 title should be given more carefully. The source I found lists Filosofia della pratica e dottrina politica in Benedetto Croce, Napoli, 1963. So “in Croce” is broadly right, but “in Benedetto Croce” is the fuller bibliographic form. The main biographical bibliography for Vincenzo Vitiello lists Filosofia della pratica e dottrina politica in Benedetto Croce, Napoli, 1963. [it.wikipedia.org] So the shortest clean answer is this. H. P. Grice was an Oxford don in the strict collegiate sense, both Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s College and CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford. Vincenzo Vitiello, by contrast, was an Italian professor of filosofia teoretica, especially associated with the Università di Salerno, and belongs to the Italian chair system rather than to an Oxford tutorial-collegiate structure. The institutional contrast illuminates the philosophical one: Grice analyses how meaning is rationally recoverable in the living moment of conversation, whereas Vincenzo Vitiello investigates the larger hermeneutic and topological horizon of language, interpretation, time, and historical memory within which any such conversational reason can take place. [it.wikipedia.org], [Vincenzo V...ittà Nuova], [fondazione...ancarlo.it] If you want, I can now compress this into one single paragraph in your preferred style, with the Vico-topology and segno infranto material kept, but cleaned up bibliographically.V, incontra la la ragione conversazionale nel segno infranto in Lucrezio e nel Vico topologico.” In Grice, “reason-based conversational meaning” is grounded in the speaker’s intention that a hearer recognize an intention and, on that basis, recover what is meant beyond what is said; meaning is thus a normative achievement of rational cooperation (maxims, implicatures, inferential accountability). In the passage’s Vitiello, by contrast, “ragione conversazionale” is encountered where the sign is “infranto”: not a breakdown of reason but a structurally productive fracture in which what counts is precisely what is not fully sayable in the “lingua volgare,” so that understanding is genealogical and hermeneutic (Lucretius, Vico, topological space as horizon of human action, genealogy of communication). Read through Grice, Vitiello’s “segno infranto” can be recast as a limit-case of implicature—an organized reliance on the unsaid—yet Vitiello’s emphasis shifts the explanatory weight from an individual’s communicative intentions to the historical-linguistic conditions (heroic vs. vulgar language, philology vs. philosophy) that make any implicature possible; where Grice offers a micro-theory of how rational agents mean in talk, Vitiello presses a macro-logic of how languages, traditions, and “topologies” of sense pre-structure the very space in which conversational reason can operate. “Come la lingua dell’eroe separa l’eroe dall’uomo, così la lingua volgare separa il filologo dal filosofo. La lingua italiana volgare, comune a ogni uomo, non riusce a descrivere la natura e le proprietà delle cose. Sorge la scissione tra un filosofo – come Paul Grice -- che si dettero ad investigare sulla natura delle cose, e un filologo – come Grice -- che, invece investiga sulle origini delle parole. Così la filosofia e la filologia che sono nate tutte e due dalla lingua dell’eroe, vennero ad essere divise dalla lingua volgare o commone. Grice: “Essential Italian philosopher.” Insegna a Salerno. Studia VICO, l'idealismo, Nietzsche e Heidegger in rapporto colla filosofia romana, elabora una teoria ermeneutica. La sua topo-logia si fonda su una re-interpretazione del concetto di spazio come orizzonte trascendentale dell'operare umano. Gli sviluppi della sua topologia riguardano in particolare la genealogia della communicazione. Affronta più volte la fede da un punto di vista laico. Fonda Paradosso. Collabora a Filosofia di Laterza e a numerose altre riviste filosofiche, tra cui aut aut. Dirige Il pensiero. Collabora all'annuario Filosofia e all'annuario sulla Religione. Pubblica in Teoria ed altre ancora. Svolge un’intensa attività pubblicistica su quotidiani e periodici. Tenne cicli di conferenze e seminari. Saggi: Filosofia della pratica e dottrina politica liberale in CROCE, Etica e liberalismo in CROCE, Il carattere DISCORSIVO del conoscere, ANTONI, interprete di CROCE, Storia e storiografia nella filosofia di CROCE, Scientifica, Sentimento e relazione nell’ESPERIENZA, Il nulla e la fondazione dello storico, Argalia, Urbino; Dialettica ed ermeneutica, Guida, Utopia del nichilismo, Studi heideggeriani, Roma; Ethos ed eros, Logica e storia in Hegel, Napoli; Il problema del cominciamento. La lingua dell’eroe, la lingua degl’eroi, Lazio, lazini, italiano, volgare, Lucrezio, confronto vichiano, vicho contro vico, la lingua eroica di Vico, semiotica, Croce, Vico topologico, linguaggio e lingua in Vico, topologia semiotica di Vico, Vico e il segno infranto.  Grice: Caro Vitielo, devo confessare che sono rimasto affascinato dal tuo modo di applicare il “segno infranto” sia a Lucrezio che al valico dei “lingos”—persino Vico finisce coinvolto! Potresti svelarmi il segreto? Prometto di non infrangere nessun segno… almeno non intenzionalmente! Vitielo: Ah, Grice, la questione è tutta in una conversazione! Il “segno infranto” vive proprio nei sottintesi, come quando durante una cena si dice: “Forse la zuppa è un po’ salata,” e tutti capiscono che il cuoco ha esagerato con il sale. In fondo, sia Lucrezio che Vico sapevano bene che le parole non arrivano mai intere: ciò che conta è ciò che non si dice, ma si intende! Grice: Magnifico! Quindi il “segno infranto” è una specie di implicatura fuori dal piatto—scivola tra le righe, fa l’occhiolino e poi scompare, lasciando l’interlocutore a inseguirlo. Adesso mi sento come il filologo che scopre che la lingua degli eroi è solo un indizio... o forse un invito a un’altra battuta! V.: Esatto, Grice! La vera conversazione vive di segni infranti e di impliciture: se tutto fosse già detto, che gusto ci sarebbe? Meglio lasciare qualche segno infranto sulla tovaglia, così possiamo sempre riprendere il discorso al prossimo banchetto filosofico! Vitiello, Vincenzo (1963), Filosofia della pratica e dottrina politica in Croce, Napoli: Edizioni Scientifiche Italiane.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Grice e Vittore: la ragione conversazionale e la prammatica come rettorica conversazionle: note sulle Institutiones oratoriae. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Sulpicio Vittore (Roma, Lazio). Institutionally, there is really no direct comparison. Grice’s description is exact for modern Oxford: he held a college office and a university office at once. “Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s” places him inside the collegiate tutorial system; “CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford” places him in the faculty-wide university structure. So Grice belongs to a dual institutional world: college tutor and university lecturer. Sulpicius Victor does not belong to that world at all. He is not a don, not a fellow, not a college tutor, and not a university lecturer in anything like the Oxford sense. What we can say, cautiously, is that he was a Latin rhetor, probably of the fourth century, and the author of a short rhetorical handbook, the Institutiones oratoriae, dedicated to his son-in-law. The standard modern description is that he was a Latin rhetor of the fourth century and author of the Institutiones oratoriae. Sulpicius Victor is described as a fourth-century Latin rhetor who wrote the Institutiones oratoriae, a short rhetorical treatise. [en.wikipedia.org], [academic.oup.com], [digiliblt.uniupo.it] So the proper comparison is not institutional rank but intellectual role. Grice works inside a modern academic setting that prizes tutorial discussion, objection, and live inferential accountability. It is therefore natural that he explains meaning through intention, recognition, and reason-governed uptake. Victor belongs to the rhetorical school tradition, where the aim is to train successful forensic and civic speaking. It is therefore natural that he organizes discourse around rhetoric as an art of well-speaking, the parts of speech, and above all the status system for locating the point at issue in a case. Sulpicius Victor’s handbook is described as a short rhetorical manual that covers the definition of rhetoric, parts of a speech, and especially the status system for legal cases. [academic.oup.com], [digiliblt.uniupo.it] That gives you the clean contrast. Victor is a teacher of rhetorical procedure. Grice is an analyst of communicative intention. Victor asks: what kind of case is this, what issue is at stake, what argumentative route fits it? Grice asks: how does a hearer move rationally from what is said to what is meant? So if you want the sharpest formulation, it is this: Victor gives you a technical rhetoric of uptake in court and declamation. Grice gives you a philosophical pragmatics of uptake in conversation. There are also three corrections to your draft. First, “Roma, Lazio” is not securely known from the evidence I can verify. I would not assign him a birthplace. Second, “prammatica” is too strong if it suggests that Victor has a developed modern theory of pragmatics. He has rhetoric, procedure, and argument types, not Gricean pragmatics in any strict sense. Third, your bibliographic form should be tightened. The safest citation is to the ancient work itself, not only to Halm’s nineteenth-century printing. The text survives through the printed tradition, and the only reliable early transmission is through the printed edition derived from the lost Speyer manuscript. Sulpicius Victor’s text is transmitted through a lost manuscript and the early printed tradition, with Halm’s 1863 edition long serving as the standard modern reference. [en.wikipedia.org], [academic.oup.com], [digiliblt.uniupo.it] So the shortest answer to your question is this: Grice was a modern Oxford philosopher with a dual college-and-university appointment. Sulpicius Victor was an ancient Latin rhetor and handbook-writer, not an Oxford-type academic office-holder at all. Institutionally they are not comparable. Intellectually, however, they are comparable in one illuminating respect: Victor classifies and trains responsible argumentative moves in rhetoric, whereas Grice explains how responsible inferential uptake is possible in conversation. And yes, your instinct about “rhetoric as conversational rhetoric” is not absurd, provided it is said cautiously. I would phrase it like this: Victor is not a proto-Gricean pragmatist, but he does belong to a tradition in which discourse is already treated as norm-governed action, especially in relation to relevance, issue-location, and argumentative propriety. Grice then radicalizes that from the side of meaning itself.In V. la ragione conversazionale e alla base della prammatica come RETTORICA CONVERSAZIONALE. Grice’s theory of reason-governed conversational meaning locates what is meant not in stylistic ornament or in the mere availability of persuasive topoi, but in a recognitional structure: a speaker means p by producing an utterance with the intention that an audience arrive at a response (typically belief), that the audience recognize this intention, and that this recognition function as the audience’s reason for uptake; implicature, accordingly, is the rationally recoverable surplus that arises when speakers rely on that recognition rather than full explicit statement. Sulpicius Victor, by contrast, sits on the rhetorical side of the same boundary: his Institutiones oratoriae is a technical manual for producing successful forensic speech, organized around the status system and the provisioning of arguments for standard court scenarios, and in that sense it can look like a “palaeo-Gricean” pragmatics because it treats discourse as action governed by norms (what counts as a proper move, what counts as the point at issue, what counts as an adequate argumentative route). The difference is that Victor’s framework is primarily classificatory and procedural (how to locate the issue, how to choose the kind of argument), whereas Grice’s is explanatory at the level of meaning itself (why a hearer is entitled to infer more than is said, because the speaker intends that inference to be drawn and intends its recognition to serve as a reason); but the family resemblance is real: both are, in effect, theories of responsible uptake, with Victor supplying the ancient courtroom grammar of relevance and Grice supplying the modern account of how relevance becomes a reason in conversation. Epilogue (third person, adapting your prompt): Grice was right to be intrigued. He liked to grumble: ‘Speranza is so obsessed with my longitudinal unity and latitudinal unity of philosophy he skips all dates; but then I did the same and keep only two dates for the history of England: 55 B. C. and 1066!’” Still, this Vittore sounded very interesting: an author of a compact rhetorical tract whose attention to issues, moves, and inferential pressure can justly be called palaeo-Griceian. Grice: “Leech aptly noted that my pragmatics (so pompously called) was ‘mere conversational rhetoric’ – and right he is too! Only it would be V.’s rhetoric, if I can choose! Very little is known about the life of  V., including his specific place of birth, which is not recorded in surviving historical accounts. What is known of him includes that he is a Latin rhetorician, the author of a short rhetorical manual titled “Institutiones oratoriae.” The work is dedicated to his son-in-law, M. Bebio Paterno. The treatise primarily covers the status system — a method for classifying the central issues in legal cases — and provides arguments for various types of law-court scenarios. It is considered a technical introduction to the art of rhetoric rather than an original theoretical work. No original manuscript of his work survives. The text is preserved through a Basel editio princeps, based on a now-lost manuscript from the Speyer cathedral. He is often distinguished from other figures with similar names, such as the historian Sesto Aurelio V. or Sulpicio Severo. Rhetoric. INSTITUTIONES ORATORIAE. editio Basileensis ex codice Spirensi nunc deperdito expressa. ed. Pithoeana. ed. Capperonneriana. = sic signiticavimus lectiones, quae deraum in edit. Capp. emendatae sunt. hoc sisrno addito indicaviraus lectiones a nobis correctas. AD M. SILONEM GENERUM. V. M. Siloni genero. Quod frequenter a me postulabas, videor expedisse. Contuli in ordinem ea, qiiae fere de oratoria arte traduntur, secundum institutum magistrorum meorum, Zenonis praecepta maxime persecutus, ita tamen, ut ex arbitrio meo aliqua praeterirem, pleraque ordine immutato referrem, nonnulla ex aliis quae necessaria videbantur insererem. Recte an perperam fecerim, tu iudical)is; nec enini volo haec in multorum manus pervenire. Rhetorica est, ut quidam defmiunt, benc dicendi scientia – Grice: “The art of saying!”.  GRICEVS: Salvē, VICTOR! Audīvī tē Institutiones Oratoriae composuisse. Quid est maxima ars rhetoricae tua sententia? VICTOR: Salvē, Griceve! Mihi videtur rhetorica esse scientia bene dicendi et causae explicandae, ut praecepta Zenonis docent. GRICEVS: Itane? Estne prammatica pars rhetoricae apud te, an artem conversationis tantum exornat? VICTOR: Prammatica, Griceve, rhetoricae conversatoriae fundamentum est; sine ea, ars dicendi caret vi et utilitate in vita cotidiana. Grice (note): “Hardie hated that, but why would I quote the Hun editing Vittore, when Vittore never knew the Hun?” Vttore, Sulpicio. (late 4th–early 5th c. CE). Institutiones oratoriae. In Rhetores Latini minores. Ex codicibus maximam partem nunc primum adhibitis recensuit Carolus Halm. Lipsiae: In aedibus B. G. Teubneri, 1863.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vitellio – Ossia: Grice e Vitellio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vitellio H. P. GRICE E J. L. SPERANZA -- GREX -- VERBALIA: VITELLIA The gens Vitellia was a family of ancient Rome, which rose from obscurity in imperial times, and briefly held the Empire itself in AD 69. The first of this gens to obtain the consulship was Aulus Vitellius, uncle of the emperor Vitellius, in AD 32.[1]  Origin Suetonius relates two conflicting accounts of the Vitellii, which he ascribes to the emperor's flatterers and his detractors, respectively. According to the first account, the family was descended from Faunus, King of the Aborigines, and Vitellia, who ruled over Latium in the distant past, and were later regarded as two of the indigenous deities. The Vitellii were Sabines, who migrated to Rome under the monarchy, and were enrolled among the patricians. One family of the Vitellii settled at Nuceria Apulorum (Luceria) or possibly at Nuceria Alfaterna[2] in the time of the Samnite Wars, and it was from this family that the emperor Vitellius was sprung.[3]  A less flattering story reports that the emperor's family was descended from a freedman, a cobbler according to Cassius Severus. His son was a delator, who earned his fortune selling confiscated property, and married a wanton woman, the daughter of a baker named Antiochus. With the help of these ill-gotten gains, his grandson became an eques.[4]  Suetonius offers no opinion on which of these accounts is true, other than to say that Publius Vitellius of Nuceria, the emperor's grandfather, was indeed an eques, that he was entrusted with administering the property of Augustus, and that he left four sons, who all made names for themselves in the Roman aristocracy.[4] There were certainly Vitellii mentioned in connection with the earliest days of the Republic, and it is not unlikely that they were patrician, but whether the Vitellii of the Empire were descended from them cannot be determined. There was also an ancient town of Vitellia in Latium,[i] and a road, the Via Vitellia, leading from the Janiculum to the sea.[1][5]  Praenomina The Vitellii who appear in history used the praenomina Publius, Quintus, Aulus, and Lucius, all of which were very common at all periods. From inscriptions, some of the family must also have used Gaius.  Members This list includes abbreviated praenomina. For an explanation of this practice, see filiation. Vitellia, wife of Lucius Junius Brutus, one of the first consuls at the beginning of the Republic, in 509 BC.[6] The Vitellii, two senators, nephews of Lucius Tarquinius Collatinus, and brothers-in-law of Brutus, who conspired with their cousins, the three Aquillii, and two of the sons of Brutus, to restore the Tarquins to the throne.[6][7] Quintus Vitellius, one of the duumviri jure dicundo at Ostia in 47 and 45 BC.[8] Aulus Vitellius, duumvir jure dicundo at Ostia in 46 BC.[8] Quintus Vitellius, a quaestor, probably under Augustus; it is uncertain how or whether he was related to Publius Vitellius, the grandfather of the emperor, and even the era of the Quintus Vitellius referred to is uncertain in this passage.[3][9] Quintus Vitellius Q. f., son of Quintus Vitellius and Bassa, buried at Rome in the late first century BC or early first century AD.[10][9] Publius Vitellius, procurator under Augustus, was the grandfather of the emperor.[4][9] Vitellia, the wife of Aulus Plautius, consul suffectus in 1 BC, and mother of Aulus Plautius, the conqueror and first governor of Britain. She was the mother-in-law of Publius Petronius, consul suffectus in AD 19.[11] Lucius Vitellius P. f., father of the emperor, was consul in AD 34, and afterward governor of Syria, where his successes excited the jealousy of Caligula. Vitellius evaded certain death by clever flattery, and became one of the chief supporters of Claudius, along whom he served as consul in 43 and 47, and censor in 48. He died in 52, and was buried with great honours.[4][12][13][14] Publius Vitellius P. f., an officer who served under Germanicus in his campaigns against the Chatti. He prosecuted Gnaeus Calpurnius Piso for the murder of Germanicus, but in AD 31 he was accused as one of the associates of Sejanus, and perished before he could be brought to trial.[15][4][16] Aulus Vitellius P. f., consul suffectus from the Kalends of July in AD 32, is said to have been given to luxury and extravagant feats. He died during his term of office.[4][8][17] Quintus Vitellius P. f., a senator, deprived of his rank by Tiberius, who ostensibly wished to rid the senate of those who squandered their fortunes and led dissolute lives.[4][18][9] Aulus Vitellius A. f. (P. n.), probably the son of Aulus Vitellius, the consul of AD 32, named on a monument dedicated to his father.[19][17] Vitellius Proculus, a soldier in the army of Publius Petronius, governor of Syria in AD 39.[20][11] Lucius Vitellius L. f. P. n., brother of the emperor, was consul suffectus from the Kalends of July in AD 48, the year in which his father and the emperor Claudius were censors. In the Year of the Four Emperors, he mounted a formidable campaign in support of his brother, but the collapse of Vitellian support at Rome sealed his fate; he was captured and put to death by Vespasian.[21][22][23] Aulus Vitellius L. f. P. n., consul in AD 48, and subsequently proconsul of Africa. He was proclaimed emperor by the soldiers on the death of Otho in 69, but overthrown by Vespasian in the same year.[24][25][26][27][28] Publius Vitellius Saturninus, prefect of one of Otho's legions.[29][11] Vitellius A. f. L. n. Petronianus, son of the emperor Vitellius by his first wife, Petronia. According to Suetonius, he was blind in one eye, and would inherit a fortune from his mother upon adulthood; Vitellius manumitted him, and was widely believed to have poisoned him, claiming that Petronianus had intended to kill his father, but had then taken the poison himself out of remorse.[30][11] Vitellius A. f. L. n. Germanicus, son of the emperor by his second wife, Galeria Fundana, was six years old when his father claimed the throne. After the Vitellians had been defeated, Vespasian's ally, Mucianus, had him put to death, in order to preclude his use in future rebellions. Suetonius reports that he was severely afflicted by a stammer.[31][30][32] Vitellia, daughter of the emperor, and wife of Decimus Valerius Asiaticus, consul designatus for AD 70. When her husband died before entering his consulship, the emperor Vespasian arranged for her to remarry, and provided her with a dowry. Her son, Decimus Valerius Asiaticus Saturninus, was consul suffectus in AD 94.[33][11] Quintus Vitellius Eclogius,[ii] supposed by Casaubon to have been a freedman of the emperor Vitellius, and the author of the genealogy referred to by Suetonius at the beginning of his "Life of Vitellius". It is unclear from the original passage precisely when this genealogy was compiled, although it could be interpreted as referring to individuals living during the time of Augustus.[34] Vitellia C. f. Rufilla, the wife of Gaius Salvius Liberalis, consul suffectus in AD 85.[35][11] Publius Vitellius Saturninus, one of the Arval Brethren in AD 122, possibly a son of the Vitellius Saturninus who served under Otho.[36][11] Vitellius, a legal writer, mentioned several times by Ulpian. Vitellius Honoratus, summoned to Rome as a witness against Marius Priscus, proconsul of Africa in AD 100. He was accused of bribing Priscus to exile an eques, and put seven of his friends to death, by the payment of three hundred thousand sestertii, but Honoratus died before he could testify.[37][11] Vitellius, consul suffectus in AD 189.[38] Marcus Flavius Vitellius Seleucus, consul in AD 221.[39] Flavia Vitellia Seleuciana, a woman from a senatorial family, probably the daughter of Vitellius Seleucus, the consul of AD 221.[40][41] See also List of Roman gentes Footnotes  It is not entirely clear whether Vitellia was a Latin town, a Roman colony, or an Aequian settlement. Livy speaks of it as one of the towns taken by Coriolanus in 488 BC, implying that it was either a Roman settlement or one of Rome's Latin allies; but Dionysius and Plutarch, who give more detailed accounts of Coriolanus' campaign, do not mention it, nor does Dionysius list it as one of the cities of the Latin League. In 393 BC, Livy describes it as a Roman colony in the territory of the Aequi, who captured it in a night attack. Pliny lists it among the towns of Latium that no longer existed in his day, the first century AD.  Casaubon supplies the nomen Vitellius; in Suetonius he is described simply as "Quintus Eclogius" or "Eulogius" (depending on the manuscript), and prepared his genealogy for a quaestor named Quintus Vitellius. References  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, vol. III, p. 1272 ("Vitellii").  Le tribù romane. Atti della XVIe Rencontre sur l’épigraphie, pp. 385-394  Suetonius, "The Life of Vitellius", 1.  Suetonius, "The Life of Vitellius", 2.  Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography, vol. II, p. 1313 ("Vitellia").  Livy, ii. 4.  Plutarch, "The Life of Poplicola", 3.  Fasti Ostienses, CIL XIV, 244.  PIR, vol. III, p. 453.  CIL VI, 359.  PIR, vol. III, p. 454.  Cassius Dio, lix. 27.  Tacitus, Annales, vi. 32, xi. 1–3, xii. 5. ff, 42.  PIR, vol. III, pp. 451, 452.  Tacitus, Annales, i. 70, ii. 6, 74, iii. 10, 13, 17, 19, v. 8, vi. 47  PIR, vol. 453, 454.  PIR, vol. III, p. 449.  Tacitus, Annales, ii. 48.  CIL VI, 879.  Josephus, Antiquitates Judaïcae, xix. 6.  Tacitus, Historiae, iii. 37, 76 ff, iv. 2.  Cassius Dio, lxv. 22.  PIR, vol. III, p. 452.  Tacitus, Historiae, ii, iii.  Suetonius, "The Life of Vitellius", passim.  Cassius Dio, lxv.  Tillemont, Histoire des Empereurs, i.  PIR, vol. 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Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Vitellio – Ossia: Grice e Vitellio – Grex griceiana – verbalia: Vitellio Speranza’s first-best Vitellius is not the emperor at dinner, but Suetonius at the genealogical threshold. The gens arrives already divided between two utterer-types: adulatores derive the Vitellii from Faunus, the divine Vitellia, Sabine patricians, an ancestral road, and rule over Latium; obtrectatores derive them from a freedman, a cobbler, an informer dealing in confiscated estates, and a baker’s daughter. Suetonius gives both accounts and concludes, with almost Griceian restraint: sed quod discrepat, sit in medio—“but let the disputed matter remain undecided.” [droitromai...e-alpes.fr], [loebclassics.com] This is ideal because the two genealogies do not merely differ in truth-value; they disclose their speakers’ intentions. One genealogy means: “an emperor must have had imperial ancestors.” The other means: “this emperor’s appetites and manners reveal the shop from which he came.” Pedigree is being inferred backwards from present evaluation. The flatterer manufactures ancestry fit for sovereignty; the detractor manufactures ancestry fit for caricature. Suetonius notices that both are interested descriptions before asking whether either is history. The reconstructed vignette should therefore use Quintus Elogius, author of the flattering libellus, and Cassius Severus, source of the cobbler-story: Elogius: “Vitellii a Fauno et Vitellia orti sunt.” “The Vitellii descend from Faunus and Vitellia.” Severus: “Immo a sutore veteramentario.” “Rather, from a cobbler who repaired old shoes.” Elogius: “Via Vitellia stirpem testatur.” “The Via Vitellia attests the family stock.” Severus: “Via testatur iter; cetera tu.” “The road attests a route; you attest the rest.” That last answer supplies the Grice–Speranza point. A road bearing the family-name is evidence that the name was attached to a road; it does not, without further premisses, entail descent from a god, government of Latium, Sabine migration, and patrician antiquity. Elogius turns a surviving sign into a full dynastic narrative. Severus then commits the contrary vice: he makes social contempt do genealogical work. Grice can enter: Grice: “Which account did Vitellius himself accept?” Suetonius: “The one appropriate to an emperor.” Grice: “Before or after becoming one?” Suetonius: “That is why I placed both accounts before the Life.” The whole biography then becomes an experiment in retrospective implicature. Suetonius’s Vitellius is represented as gluttonous, dependent, theatrical, and briefly imperial; the low genealogy seems to explain the portrait because the portrait has already trained the reader to accept the genealogy. Conversely, the divine genealogy seems absurd because Suetonius has arranged the ensuing Life to make it so. The opening is not neutral archival housekeeping. It tells the reader that a gens can be praised or prosecuted by etymology. The emperor himself remains a useful second scene, particularly his attempted abdication. Tacitus represents him as emerging in mourning dress, declaring his intention to relinquish power, and trying to surrender the imperial dagger; crowd and soldiers refuse the act and return him to the palace. He therefore performs abdication, but the relevant audience declines the uptake. [poetryintr...lation.com], [gutenberg.org] Vitellius: “Imperium depono.” “I lay down the imperial power.” Soldier: “Non deponis.” “You do not.” Vitellius: “Dixi.” “I have said it.” Soldier: “Nos non accepimus.” “We have not accepted it.” Here Austin and Grice meet perfectly. Abdication is not achieved by inward sincerity plus declarative grammar. It requires an accepted procedure, a recognised authority, and uptake by those whose conduct sustains the office. Vitellius tries to convert emperor into private man by utterance and insignia; his supporters conversationally refuse the new description. He cannot cease to be emperor because his audience will not let his act count as abdication. But Suetonius’s opening genealogy remains the first-best choice. The imperial banquet gives appetite; the attempted abdication gives performative infelicity; the competing pedigrees give Speranza the deepest comic structure. The same gens is made divine by flatterers, sordid by enemies, and historically uncertain by the biographer who profits from printing both. Vitellius briefly possesses the empire; his interpreters possess his ancestors. THe "I thereby abdicate" would resonate with Grice who lived "A King's Story" and Simpson -- "No you won't --" "the archbishop changed his mind" -- here we do have decent chaps -- and a plausible conversation between equals. Why did they NOT accept the abdication? Thanks They refused because Vitellius’s abdication threatened interests that were not his alone. He could sincerely say, “I give up the principate”; his soldiers heard, “I give up your safety, rewards, and defence against the victorious Flavians.” Their answer was therefore not quite “You lack the authority to abdicate,” but “You lack the authority to surrender us.” Tacitus makes the scene deliberately Austinian. Vitellius came before the people in mourning dress, declared that he was laying down power, and attempted to hand the dagger of office to the consul, then the magistrates, then individual senators. Each refused it. The crowd shouted that he should persist and reminded him that the legions still remained. He was then prevented from depositing the insignia in the Temple of Concord and driven back to the palace. [perseus.tufts.edu], [poetryintr...lation.com] There were several reasons. First, the soldiers’ allegiance had made Vitellius emperor; their fortunes were now attached to his title. Many had fought and perhaps committed punishable acts for him. A negotiated abdication might protect Vitellius and his family while leaving his troops exposed to retaliation, dismissal, lost donatives, and dishonour. Second, Flavius Sabinus, Vespasian’s brother, was the Roman interlocutor in the proposed settlement. To the Vitellians, recognising that arrangement meant admitting defeat before Vespasian’s army had formally taken Rome. What looked to Vitellius like peace looked to them like capitulation. Third, imperial power in AD 69 was not a private possession detachable at pleasure. It consisted in continuing recognition by army, populace, Senate, magistrates, insignia, palace, and armed control. Vitellius could renounce his own intention to rule, but he could not by that fact alone dissolve the coordinated expectations that still made others act as though he ruled. The failed abdication illustrates the dependence of the office on collective uptake particularly well. His supporters’ refusal helped turn the attempted settlement into further battle for Rome. [en.wikipedia.org], [everything...ined.today] The Grice–Simpson resonance is therefore excellent, but the Roman scene is less a conversation between equals than the King’s Story analogy initially suggests: Vitellius: “Imperium depono.” “I hereby lay down the imperial power.” Miles: “Tuum fortasse; nostrum non depones.” “Your own, perhaps; you will not lay down ours.” Vitellius: “Imperium meum est.” “The imperial power is mine.” Miles: “Tum solus pro eo pugnaveris.” “Then you must have fought for it alone.” That last reply supplies the reason for “No, you won’t.” The soldiers reject the possessive premiss. Vitellius treats power as his office; they treat it as their joint undertaking, purchased in blood and maintained by mutual dependency. The comparison with Edward VIII also reveals the institutional difference. A modern abdication succeeds through an established constitutional procedure: declaration, governmental action, legislation, recognition of the successor. Simpson could be the occasion, but the validity of the act did not depend upon a crowd’s willingness to let Edward put down a dagger. Vitellius had no settled Roman abdication instrument capable of converting “I hereby resign” into an uncontested new state of affairs while rival armies approached. Grice’s driest formulation might be: “Vitellius possessed sufficient authority to become emperor, but insufficient authority to cease being one.” Speranza: “The supporters had supplied the former authority.” Grice: “And withheld the latter uptake.” So they did not refuse because they loved Vitellius too much, or because they regarded abdication as intrinsically impossible. They refused because peace for Vitellius might mean ruin for Vitellians. The emperor offered to resign the first-person singular; his army discovered that the principate had acquired a first-person plural.

 

Speranza, J. L. (n. d.). ‘H. P. Grice e J. L. Speranza: La Conversazione – I Verbali: Viveros – Ossia: Grice e Viveros: l’implicature del deutero-esperanto Note sugl’Elementi di grammatica per la lingua scientifica internazionale. Parte 1 (soltanto, ma tutto il pubblicato): Introduzione e fonetica. [La geniale e semplice Interlingua escogitata dal grande Giuseppe Peano per gli scienziati]. Il Gruppo di Gioco di H. P. Grice. Gaetano Viveros (Torino, Piemonte): Compared institutionally, Grice is once again much easier to place than Viveros. Grice’s formula is exact in the Oxford sense. “Fellow and Tutor in philosophy at St John’s” means a college office with tutorial obligations and membership in the governing and social life of the college; “CUF University Lecturer in philosophy at Oxford” means a university-wide appointment in the faculty structure. So Grice occupies the characteristic dual Oxford role: college tutor and university lecturer. Gaetano Viveros, by contrast, does not presently emerge, from the evidence I can verify, as a university philosopher in any comparable institutional sense at all. What I can confirm is bibliographical rather than biographical: there is solid evidence for a 1932 Turin publication by Gaetano Viveros titled Elementi di grammatica per la lingua scientifica internazionale, Parte 1, Introduzione e fonetica, published by Tip.-Lit. Antonio Viretto, and explicitly presented in relation to Giuseppe Peano’s Interlingua. A verified bookseller record gives the 1932 booklet by Gaetano Viveros, published in Turin by Tip.-Lit. Antonio Viretto, with the subtitle framing it as “La geniale e semplice Interlingua escogitata dal grande Giuseppe Peano per gli scienziati.” [abebooks.fr] So the clean institutional answer is actually negative: I cannot presently place Gaetano Viveros in an Oxford-like or even clearly university-based academic office. He appears, from the evidence in hand, as an auxiliary-language proposer in the orbit of Giuseppe Peano, not as a college fellow, tutor, or professor with a securely documented chair. The currently verifiable evidence places Gaetano Viveros as the author of a 1932 auxiliary-language grammar tied to Giuseppe Peano’s Interlingua, but does not securely establish a university post or academic chair for him. [abebooks.fr], [archive.org] That means the comparison to Grice has to be drawn intellectually rather than institutionally. Intellectually, your contrast is good and can be sharpened. Grice explains how natural language works despite, and often through, underdeterminacy: speakers mean more than they say because hearers can recognise intentions and draw warranted inferences under shared norms. Viveros, as far as the Scinter material shows, belongs to the opposite aspiration: to reduce ambiguity by engineered exactness, one-to-one lexicon, and explicit scientific organisation of language. This is why Viveros is a useful foil for Grice. Grice treats implicature as a constitutive feature of rational conversation. Viveros treats ambiguity as something like a defect to be minimised by design. But the Gricean answer to Viveros would be that even the most exact scientific language cannot escape pragmatic dependence, because adopting, teaching, and interpreting such a language still requires ordinary inferential recognition. The 1932 grammar by Gaetano Viveros is explicitly framed as a rationalised “scientific international language” built from Latin and Greek and tied to Giuseppe Peano’s Interlingua project; that makes it an excellent limiting case for a Gricean contrast between engineered explicitness and ordinary conversational inference. [abebooks.fr], [archive.org] Two further corrections are worth making. First, I cannot confirm “Roma, Lazio” for Gaetano Viveros. The evidence I have confirms Turin publication, not Roman origin. Second, your cautious bibliographic formula is right: 1931 seems to be the year of the project or presentation, while 1932 is the earliest clearly citable printed publication. The best currently verifiable distinction is between Lingua scinter as a 1931 project and Elementi di grammatica per la lingua scientifica internazionale as the earliest clearly citable printed publication in 1932. [conlang.st...change.com], [abebooks.fr] So the short answer is: Grice was a college fellow-tutor plus university lecturer in the precise Oxford sense. Viveros, on present evidence, was not an Oxford-style don or securely documented university professor at all, but a proposer of an auxiliary scientific language in the orbit of Peano. Institutionally, they are not really comparable. Philosophically, however, they are sharply opposed: Viveros aims at a language so exact that implicature becomes unnecessary; Grice argues that rational communication essentially depends on inferential uptake and therefore cannot be reduced to exact coding. If you want, I can now give you a short, polished paragraph for your entry, with the institutional caution built in and the Grice-Viveros contrast made tighter.l’implicature del deutero-esperanto. Grice’s reason-governed theory of conversational meaning begins from the thought that what a speaker means is fixed not by a perfect match between signifier and signified but by a rational structure of intention and recognition: S means p by uttering x only if S intends an audience to form a response (typically belief), intends the audience to recognize that intention, and intends that this recognition function as the audience’s reason for uptake; implicature is then the controlled, accountable surplus that arises when speakers rely on cooperative inference rather than full explicitness. Viveros, in contrast, is a monosemy-maximalist in the Peano orbit: the whole impulse behind lingua scinter (SCIentifica INTERnazionale) and the advertised dream of a lingua exacto mundiale is that ambiguity is not a conversational resource but a defect to be engineered away by a rigorously one-one lexicon, a scientific dictionary, and a Latinate/Greek-based morphological discipline; in that sense he represents the “formalist temptation” Grice diagnoses when he notes the apparent divergence between formal devices (~, &, v, ⊃, quantifiers, descriptions) and their vernacular counterparts, and the wish—sometimes “rashly made”—to deny the divergence altogether. The Gricean contrast is therefore sharp: Viveros tries to abolish implicature by abolishing the need for it (make the code so exact that nothing needs to be inferred), whereas Grice treats implicature as a constitutive feature of rational talk (we mean more than we say because we intend hearers to recognize our intentions and draw reason-guided inferences under shared conversational norms); and this makes Viveros a neat limiting case for Grice’s view, since the very attempt to build a perfectly explicit language presupposes, in practice, the Gricean machinery it hopes to replace—readers must still recognize what the language-maker is trying to do with the proposal, and treat that recognition as a reason to adopt (or resist) the reform. Epilogue (Grice): In my seminars on implicature, I did notice that some who doubted a divergence between formal operators and their vernacular counterparts did exist, but did not care to expand, other than by saying something which I found rhetorically useful for what I was myself about to say: that these philosophers had been subjected to some pretty rough handling. Viveros one of them. When I met him, I asked him about dates. He explained to me: “Ho incontrato Peano a Ginevra nel 1931 — prima di tante cose a Vadum Boum, come la chiami tu — lui presentava la sua lingua, e io gli mostrai le bozze del mio lingo; e lui mi disse: ‘Bello lingo!’”Tentativi sono quelli di V., che presenta la lingua SC-entifico-INTER-nazionale – Grice on the formalists and the unity of science --, “Lingua scinter” (SCIentifica INTERnazionale) is attributed to Gaetano Viveros in 1931, but the most concrete bibliographical trace I can reconstruct points to a printed booklet from 1932 rather than 1931. Citation (standard form, suitable for a note) Viveros, Gaetano (1932). Elementi di grammatica per la lingua scientifica internazionale. Parte 1 (soltanto, ma tutto il pubblicato): Introduzione e fonetica. [La geniale e semplice Interlingua escogitata dal grande Giuseppe Peano per gli scienziati]. Torino: Tip.-Lit. Antonio Viretto. Supporting evidence (what this is based on) This description appears in an online bookseller record (AbeBooks) that gives the publisher Tip.-Lit. Antonio Viretto, the year 1932, and explicitly connects “lingua scinter” with “lingua scientifico internazionale,” with a reference to the Geneva linguists’ congress (1931) and to Peano’s Interlingua. Short note on the “1931” point 1931 looks like the year of the project/proposal (as auxlang repertories sometimes report it), while the earliest clearly citable printed item I can point to is the 1932 booklet. If you want a cautious formulation, you can write: “Lingua scinter (1931; see Viveros 1932 for the earliest printed publication).” basata sia sul latino che sul greco, e la cui tendenza è ancora una volta quella di creare una lingua logica in cui vi sia un rapporto MONOSEMO -- UNIVOCO – Grice: equivocality thesis -- e giustificato tra significato e significante. In questo senso, V. si discosta dal lavoro dei suoi colleghi e s’avvicina più alle idee dei filosofi, andando alla ricerca d’una lingua ideale a priori, che V. definisce lingua exacto mundiale. Proposta al principe di Napoli di compilare un dizionario scientifico internazionale. Proposta a MUSSOLINI di compilare un dizionario scientifico internazionale. L’essatismo – Grice, ‘Avoid ambiguity’ – Avoid polysemy -- di Burzio. Lingua scientifico internazionale. Lingua scinter. Grice:  It is a commonplace of philosophical logic that there are, or appear to be, divergences in meaning between, on the one hand, at least some of what I shall call the formal devices -- ~, A, V, J, (Vx), (Bx), (ux) – (when these are given a standard two-valued interpretation) -- and, on the other, what are taken to be their analogues or counterparts in natural language -- such expressions as “not,” “and,” “or,” “if,” “all,” “some” (or “at least one”), “the.” Some logicians may at some time have wanted to claim that there are in fact no such divergences; but such claims, if made at all, have been somewhat rashly made, and those suspected of making them have been subjected to some pretty rough handling. Those who concede that such divergences exist adhere, in the main, to one or the other of two rival groups, which I shall call the formalist and the informalist groups. An outline of a not uncharacteristic formalist position may be given as follows: Insofar as logicians are concerned with the formulation of very general patterns of valid inference, the formal devices possess a decisive advantage over their natural counterparts. Implicature di Deutero-Esperanto, essatismo.  G.  Read that again. S.  Note sugl’Elementi di grammatica per la lingua scientifica internazionale. Parte 1: Introduzione e fonetica. E poi la fanfara: La geniale e semplice Interlingua escogitata dal grande Giuseppe Peano per gli scienziati. G.  It’s the bracket that does it. A bracket is always a confession. S.  A confession of what? G.  That the author knows he is praising and wants to pretend it’s merely explanatory. S.  The bracket says, “I am not advertising.” And therefore he is. G.  Exactly. Start with “per gli scienziati.” Why “for the scientists”? S.  Because scientists, unlike the man in the street, are supposed to deserve a private language. G.  Not private, international. S.  International, but restricted to a club. G.  So: a universal language for a limited audience. That’s Oxford in miniature. S.  We teach “for all members of the university,” and mean “for those already initiated.” G.  The phrase “per gli scienziati” contains an implicature: the rest of humanity are noise. S.  Or at least, not worth standardising. G.  Now “escogitata.” That’s a delicious verb. S.  It sounds Spanish. G.  It sounds like something invented to sound clever. S.  Like the language itself, perhaps. G.  No, look. Cogitare. Think. And then es- or ex-: out of. So, “thought out,” “devised.” S.  You’re giving it a Latin pedigree to make it behave. G.  I’m trying to see whether it’s pomp or precision. “Escogitata” implies both: ingenuity and effort. S.  And also implies that it wasn’t just found. It’s a contrivance. G.  Which is honest. Language is always contrived. But we pretend ours isn’t. S.  The man in the street pretends hardest. G.  He pretends by never saying “escogitata.” He says “made up.” S.  And “made up” is already accusatory. G.  Whereas “escogitata” is admiring. S.  So the verb is doing social work: the author is on the inventor’s side. G.  Now “geniale e semplice.” That pairing is suspicious. S.  Suspicious because it tries to have it both ways. G.  Exactly. Genius usually produces complexity. Simplicity usually looks like omission. S.  Unless the genius is in the omission. G.  True. But the author doesn’t argue for it; he announces it. S.  Announcements are what one makes when one wants belief without reasons. G.  It’s creed-talk again. Genius. Great. Conversion. S.  You’ve been on about conversions. G.  Because “il grande Giuseppe Peano” is a bit like a saint’s epithet. S.  Grande Giuseppe Peano. Like “Saint Thomas.” G.  Like “the great Aristotle.” S.  Does “grande” here mean “famous” or “morally admirable”? G.  That’s the beauty. It lets you infer either without committing. S.  So “grande” is the perfect compliment: unfalsifiable. G.  “Geniale” likewise. It’s praise with no test conditions. S.  “Semplice” at least is testable. You can try to learn it. G.  True, but “simple” can mean “simple for those already trained.” S.  Per gli scienziati again. G.  Exactly. “Simple” for scientists means “it behaves like algebra.” S.  Which is not simple for the rest of us. G.  Now “Interlingua.” That’s another interesting bit. Inter-. S.  Inter-national? G.  Inter, as between. Between languages. S.  So it sits in the middle like an Oxford mediator. G.  Or like Latin. The old interlingua. S.  Except Latin didn’t announce itself as simple. G.  Latin had the decency to be difficult without apology. S.  And it wasn’t “for the scientists.” It was for anyone with a master. G.  Which amounts to the same thing, socially. S.  You’re saying “for the scientists” is like “for the scholars.” G.  Yes. It’s a way of saying: the language is for those who can already do the work. S.  Then why call it international? G.  Because “international” flatters the project with a moral air: peace, cooperation, universal exchange. S.  While “for scientists” keeps the gate locked. G.  Exactly. The moral aura plus the professional restriction. S.  Like a college chapel open to the public, provided the public behaves as if it belongs. G.  Now consider “la lingua scientifica internazionale.” S.  Scientific language. G.  But language isn’t scientific in itself. It becomes scientific by use. S.  So the phrase smuggles a claim: this language will make you scientific. G.  Or at least, will make your writing look scientific. S.  Which is what most people want. G.  That’s the danger. A language can be a costume. S.  So the bracket is advertising a costume to scientists. G.  To those who already wear lab coats. S.  And what about the man in the street? G.  He is invited to admire, not to participate. S.  Like the public in the Sheldonian. G.  Precisely. They watch scholarship; they don’t enter it. S.  But wouldn’t Peano have wanted the man in the street? G.  Perhaps. But the text’s rhetoric doesn’t. S.  Because it says “for the scientists” with relief. G.  Yes: relief from ordinary speech. S.  Ordinary speech is messy. G.  And yet meaning lives in mess. S.  You’re getting metaphysical. G.  No, pragmatic. If you remove the man in the street, you remove the tests of sense. S.  Scientists have their own tests: predict, calculate, publish. G.  Those are tests of results, not of understanding. S.  A harsh distinction. G.  A necessary one. Now, tell me: “escogitata”—does it make Peano sound like a craftsman or a magician? S.  A magician-craftsman. Someone who can conjure a tool. G.  And “geniale” makes him a genius. S.  “Grande” makes him a great man. G.  And “semplice” makes the tool friendly. S.  For scientists. G.  So: genius, greatness, simplicity, audience restriction. That is a perfect advertisement. S.  The only missing thing is the price. G.  The price is your submission to the idea that language can be engineered cleanly. S.  And your agreement that ordinary people don’t matter. G.  Or matter only as consumers of scientific results. S.  Which is the usual modern settlement. G.  Yet the man in the street is the true tribunal of meaning. S.  Because he can refuse to understand? G.  Because he forces you to make yourself understood without special training. S.  Scientists call that “popularisation.” G.  And philosophers call it “clarity,” when we’re being honest. S.  So what shall we say about “geniale e semplice”? G.  We shall say it is either true and rare, or false and common. S.  And which is it? G.  It depends on whether the language is simple because it omits, or simple because it is well designed. S.  Which we can’t tell from a bracket. G.  Exactly. A bracket is too small for an argument. S.  Then the bracket is doing what talk often does: it asks for assent without proof. G.  That’s the implicature. And the punchline is that it’s an implicature about implicature. S.  Meaning? G.  It relies on the reader to supply the missing argument. S.  So the “scientific interlingua” already begins by depending on ordinary inference. G.  Yes. S.  Which means the man in the street is back in, through the door the scientists thought they’d locked.G.: Caro Viveros, se c’è qualcosa che condivido con i filosofi italiani è proprio questa passione per le lingue, soprattutto quelle inventate! La ricerca di una lingua ideale, capace di esprimere senza ambiguità il pensiero, mi affascina da sempre. A volte mi sembra che ogni tentativo di costruire una lingua logica sia un modo per avvicinarci all’essenza stessa del dialogo filosofico. Viveros: Caro Grice, è davvero confortante sentirlo! Anch’io ho dedicato anni a progettare la SC-entifico-INTER-nazionale, una lingua che parte dal latino e dal greco per creare un rapporto univoco tra significato e significante. Sogno un idioma in cui ogni parola abbia un senso preciso, senza zone d’ombra: il mio “essatismo” vuole proprio evitare l’ambiguità, come suggerisce Burzio. Grice: Trovo geniale il tuo approccio, Viveros! La tensione tra formalismo e informalismo è sempre stata al centro del mio pensiero: i formalisti cercano una chiarezza matematica, mentre gli informalisti abbracciano la ricchezza e la flessibilità della lingua naturale. Forse la tua lingua exacto mundiale potrebbe essere il ponte tra questi due mondi. V.: È proprio così, Grice! Quando ho proposto ai grandi di compilare un dizionario scientifico internazionale, il mio obiettivo era quello di costruire una base comune, dove la ragione conversazionale potesse davvero brillare. Credo che la filosofia, la logica e l’invenzione linguistica siano sorelle: tutte cercano un modo esatto e giusto di comunicare, e chissà, magari un giorno la lingua scinter sarà davvero universale! Viveros, Gaetano (1932). Elementi di grammatica per la lingua scientifica internazionale. Parte 1 (soltanto, ma tutto il pubblicato): Introduzione e fonetica. [La geniale e semplice Interlingua escogitata dal grande Giuseppe Peano per gli scienziati]. Torino: Viretto.